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Billy Sharp

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I wouldnt say no to this, cracking player and a great guy but where would he fit in ? hes just the same as nugent and pearson clearly likes beckford and dont wanna sell him. maybe competition

Posted
This is Pearsons top target, Expect the maynard saga all over again.

Thought there was a £3m release clause in his contract? So though a bidding war may take place, it won't be due to Donny haggling for an extortionate price ala Bristol for maynard

Posted

Personally don't want him, especially for £3million. Why? He scored a lot of goals in poor teams at Scunthorpe and Doncaster, but did he score a lot of goals in a good Sheffield United team? No, in fact, he scored 12 goals in 62 games at Sheffield United (the second time around).

Also, Doncaster play nice football on the ground and we play a more direct game. He will not get that many chances whilst we play that direct, and he will just end up like Beckford and Nugent and feeding off of scraps basically. He is a nice guy, because I have met him, and he has scored a lot of goals at Doncaster but I don't think he is any better than Nugent or Beckford, and I think if we were going to spend £££ on a striker, it needs to be a target man.

Normally agree with your views, but not on this.

I'd say we fall into the 'poor team' bracket at the mo, so he'd be perfrect!

Posted

Don't see the point in wasting money on another of the same sort of striker just because he runs about a bit.

We'll be saying he's shit in two months time if we sign him but don't bother improving our midfield. We could have Villa up front and he'd still struggle with the service we provide our forwards.

In my opinion the jury's still out on Beckford until we start actually giving the ball to him in any threatening manner. And I hated Beckford before he came here, was disappointed when we signed him and am still unsure now. Just think we should call off the hounds until we've got the rest of our shop in order.

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When we played Donny he was nothing special, not quite sure were everyone is getting the 'runs around a lot' from.

To me he seems similar to Yakubu, have very little impact on the game and still pop up with a couple of goals.

Against us, he was slow, didn't win any headers and wasn't involved that much - but got Donny goals and that's what we need! Somebody who can win us the game from nothing and somebody we can rely on to take a chance when it's presented to them.

Him and Nugent could work because Nugent will do the graft and Sharp will stick it in the net, at the moment Beckford and Nugent isn't working there making similar runs and getting in each others way.

Hopefully we sign him but I can't see him leaving after what has recently happened.

Posted

There's no bidding war surely, as far as I'm concerned if we offer £3mil then we enter talks with him and won't have to up our bid as a result.

Posted

Personally don't want him, especially for £3million. Why? He scored a lot of goals in poor teams at Scunthorpe and Doncaster, but did he score a lot of goals in a good Sheffield United team? No, in fact, he scored 12 goals in 62 games at Sheffield United (the second time around).

Also, Doncaster play nice football on the ground and we play a more direct game. He will not get that many chances whilst we play that direct, and he will just end up like Beckford and Nugent and feeding off of scraps basically. He is a nice guy, because I have met him, and he has scored a lot of goals at Doncaster but I don't think he is any better than Nugent or Beckford, and I think if we were going to spend £££ on a striker, it needs to be a target man.

Even in this lamentable season we've played some promising football at times. First half against Forest, some of the time against Southampton, second half against West Ham and so on.

Admaittedly we always do it part-time for various reasons - partly psychological because we never consistently go for the throat when we get in front, partly because we're not what I call genuinely fit and partly because we allow the opposition to apply pressure because we don't defend high up the pitch, especially under Pearson.

But my point is that we've played some splendid half-hours of passing football in which we've even taken some of the better teams in this league apart. So why would we abandon that approach for the sort of shit we've been playing recently? What's changed so significantly.

Well, we're trying to play with width when Vassell is injured and we've only one natural winger and even he (Dyer) is not the most consistent passer.

Second we've got two players in central midfield who are not strong enough to control that area on their own often against three or even more midfielders and it's of no great value to call King and Wellens because no other two would do any better.

Third we've accommodated Beckford for no reasons that have anything to do with performance and while he quite clearly struggles in the areas of first touch control, linking in with others, making selfless runs etc he's also frustrated at the lack of the sort of supply that would probably have been better with the busy Vassell and a less burdened King in his more attacking role.

For me we have to get people in who allow us to replicate the first half against Forest more consistently and over longer periods. Fast, pass-and-move football but with the bonus of greater pace and more lethal finishing.

How many of the current players that should include doesn't matter to me. But that's the way we need to play, some of existing players have shown they can do well in that system and the addition of others who would impropve it still further should allow us, even at this stage, to mount a play-off challenge.

But the remaining question is will Pearson be single minded enough to play the people who can propduce pass-and-move football and will he do so by including enough fire power and by still keeping sufficient width?

Billy Sharp would surely be an asset because he works so hard and well even when he's not scoring and surely two busy players like Nugent/Sharp would be a significant handful for any defence...and ideally suited for pass-and-move especially if King can arrive late in a midfield three and the width can come from full-back and from one of the front three.

Konch is clearly able to fulfill this role, but I remain concerned about the pace and penetrative potential on.the right both from Peltier and from anyone else who plays in our front three. We just don't have anyone with the pace, skill and consistency to hurt anyone in a serious way.

Posted

Always liked this guy his goal against us this season was class and so was the one last season. however 3mill is a lot of money.

Good job we've got shitloads of it then.

Posted

It's not strikers we need, MIDFIELD is what we need cos beckford bags for fun

Yeah, cos he's been in prolific form since signing hasn't he, I really don't know where we'd be without all his goals. :unsure:

That said we do need to strengthen in Midfield and should be priority.

As for Billy Sharp, Yeah i'd be happy with him, but not for £3m, not sure he's worth that.

Posted

£3m is the get out clause for his contract. Doesnt really matter if he's worth that or not. If we want him, we have to pay at LEAST £3m.

Correct

Also, doesn't matter what anyone's worth. January is an expensive time to buying, it's not a buyers market, all the players are under contract & you have to pay what you have to pay

'worth' doesn't come in to it

(the same goes for wage deals offered)

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