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AVB - Chelsea

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Chelsea players getting their way again, they didn't look interested for what he had to say, I was watching the Napoli game and when he was telling Cole instructions he didn't pay attention.

You have Lampard throwing his toys out the pram if he doesn't start every game, he needs to realise that he isn't special, just like when he moaned about being dropped for an England game under Capello.

AVB deserved to have next season IMO, he should of had time to bring in his players and get rid of the old ones and the ones who don't want to play for him.

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Chelsea players getting their way again, they didn't look interested for what he had to say, I was watching the Napoli game and when he was telling Cole instructions he didn't pay attention.

You have Lampard throwing his toys out the pram if he doesn't start every game, he needs to realise that he isn't special, just like when he moaned about being dropped for an England game under Capello.

AVB deserved to have next season IMO, he should of had time to bring in his players and get rid of the old ones and the ones who don't want to play for him.

I agree with all your points, far too much player power. However if someone younger than me came in and said "you know all the stuff you got taught by José Mourinho a few years ago, when you were the best team in the country, well I want you to forget it all and do as I say", I'd tell them to **** off, much like it seems Lampard/Cole/Terry etc. have done, so I don't feel it's all their fault.

Poisoned chalice for me, AVB wanted it to be a long term project so he could get rid of the big egos and replace them with the sort of record breaking team he assembled at Porto. I for one thought RA was going to back him despite results but I'm left disappointed.

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Disappointing. Though I think they'd have accepted a few years in transition if they were still comfortably top 4, problem is they look unlikely to even get top 5 at the moment.

Never expected it to work out from the start really. The age factor and the fact that he was there before as a lower level coach, now suddenly having to be seen as the main man by the big players, didn't help the situation.

Won't miss his bloody post-match interviews though.

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Roberto Di Matteo is a relegation fodder manager he is hardly going to gee up the players can see their season petering out after Brum beat them in the FA cup.

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Di Matteo's done well for himself.

Bottled the play-offs at Milton Keynes, sacked at WBA and now manager at Chelsea.

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£13.3m in compensation to sign AVB, I wonder what the payoff will be. Seems like a lot of money to sack someone after less than a year :huh: .

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Feel for AVB. You need time to reform a team, especially a fairly ageing team like Chelsea. The players didn't play for AVB, for instance, Lampard always seemed to be moaning, I noticed also that Cole didn't seem to be listening and also didn't work as hard as usually does when he came on against Napoli.

Just hope they don't beat Birmingham/pick up form.

Di Matteo's done well for himself.

Bottled the play-offs at Milton Keynes, sacked at WBA and now manager at Chelsea.

Why is it when managers don't get promoted, they bottle it? MK Dons lost on penalties, if I remember correctly, to Scunthorpe. I don't understand why people say this.

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AVB was clearly out of his depth from early on. You cannot say the players should have respected him, he didn't earn it clearly else he would have had it. Results were shite, and he was not up to the job.

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He made the decision early on to take on the old guard at Chelsea, probably because the CEO / Abramovich told him they would back him to re build the team as he saw fit.

So he took them on, they got the hump and the squad morale was poisoned.

Rather than back him the powers that be buckled in fear at not finishing in the top 4 and the lost revenue involved and binned him

You can be sure it's cost at least £5-7 million quid to sack him.

so Matteo can now befriend the old guard again and they will probably buck their ideas up enough to finish 4th.

But in the Summer unless Mourinho is installed as the Manager whoever takes over will have to break up the old boy's club in the squad or he will go the same way as AVB,

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He's gone

</FA cup chances for Leicester>

This. Was hoping his final hurrah would be an F.A Cup exit on Tuesday. Can definitely seeing them beating Brum now, then us. :glare:

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Oh no am really upset he as gone :( . Not because i like but because he had them playing shit and i was loving it .

I've got a few Chelsea fans for mates and they used to be so arrogant about football , but not this season lol I never hear a peep out of them not , it's GREAT :D

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AVB was clearly out of his depth from early on. You cannot say the players should have respected him, he didn't earn it clearly else he would have had it. Results were shite, and he was not up to the job.

He won the league without losing a game last year and won the Europa League.

The problem was that Terry, Lampard et al remembered him as Mourinho's report timer from five years ago.

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Why is it when managers don't get promoted, they bottle it? MK Dons lost on penalties, if I remember correctly, to Scunthorpe. I don't understand why people say this.

Not every manager does, but he could've (probably should've) got them automatic promotion and then had the weakest team in the play-offs.

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He made the decision early on to take on the old guard at Chelsea, probably because the CEO / Abramovich told him they would back him to re build the team as he saw fit.

So he took them on, they got the hump and the squad morale was poisoned.

Rather than back him the powers that be buckled in fear at not finishing in the top 4 and the lost revenue involved and binned him

You can be sure it's cost at least £5-7 million quid to sack him.

so Matteo can now befriend the old guard again and they will probably buck their ideas up enough to finish 4th.

But in the Summer unless Mourinho is installed as the Manager whoever takes over will have to break up the old boy's club in the squad or he will go the same way as AVB,

This.

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He made the decision early on to take on the old guard at Chelsea, probably because the CEO / Abramovich told him they would back him to re build the team as he saw fit.

So he took them on, they got the hump and the squad morale was poisoned.

Rather than back him the powers that be buckled in fear at not finishing in the top 4 and the lost revenue involved and binned him

You can be sure it's cost at least £5-7 million quid to sack him.

so Matteo can now befriend the old guard again and they will probably buck their ideas up enough to finish 4th.

But in the Summer unless Mourinho is installed as the Manager whoever takes over will have to break up the old boy's club in the squad or he will go the same way as AVB,

Chelsea have some tough away trips during the run-in (Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal for example). It's by no means a given they will get 4th.

That's when things could really get tasty. Abramovich is desperate for the Champions League and should it not be on offer, his preferred managers may not be tempted by the megabucks he'll wave in their direction, especially after his appalling treatment of Ancelotti and AVB.

With UEFA financial fair play rules beginning to kick in, he could just start to wonder whether his time at Chelsea should come to an end. Imagine the financial carnage that would result from him walking away.. lol

PS I don't think this does our cup hopes any harm either. The Champions League matters much more to Abramovich than another FA Cup.

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