flowwolf Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Money is completely irrelevant. What planet are you from ? are you Jesus ? do you live on fish's and loaves ?
Babylon Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 I understand that. So you're saying it would of been ok for the likes of Ricardo to turn around and call L1 wankers, when the majority of fans were giving him shit? Fans booing Gallagher so it would of been ok for him to do the same? I see where your coming from by players getting frustrated, and I can sort of understand his fustration and disappointment.. but to stick his finger up is the wrong way about it, especially at a ''professional' level of sport. Well I was calling L1 wankers, so I would probably have cheered Ricardo for it Yeah it's the wrong way, but it's not something people should start getting upset about for me.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Paul Konchesky in human fallibility row! Get over it, he did what anyone of us do when we're incited. He gives his all IMO & I can't ask for more than that. Good on you Paul for giving some back.
flowwolf Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Well I wouldn't moan about it that's for sure. If you wanna dish it out, you better be able to take it in return. Again though, linesman and refs whilst on the pitch and not going through the same things as the footballer. The fans around them are not their own, their fortunes over a whole season aren't dictated by one result, their tie to what is happening is nothing like as emotional as those of the players and the fans. This isn't away fans taking a pop at a player, it's his own bloody fans. Yes and when players are on the kind of money he is on his " own " fans have every right to have a go at him . Fans emotion run a little bit higher than the players especially when they have forked out hard earned cash to watch such inept performances. He still has thousands a week to look forward to while the fan is left to get angry about having spent money to watch dross and players who stick their fingers up to them. He may just as well have said " I'm rich on your money so go and do one" get rid of him.
Captain... Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Shouldn't they be role models to little kids? Simple answer no. Why should footballers be role models, because they can kick a ball straight? Some footballers can be role models as they combine excellence on the pitch with a being a decent human being off the pitch such as Ryan Giggs, Steven Gerrard, erm, Rio Ferdinand, Clarke Carlisle (I knew there was one). They can be sporting heroes, but role models? That is for people that deserve it not a profession. If a kid starts swearing and gets pulled up on it, and asked why he is using that language, and he says Wayne Rooney said it, then it is the parents/teachers role to say "Well you're not Wayne Rooney!" and give them a smack. But say he is a role model, what example would he be setting if he just limply took abuse, if he just stood there bent over and let the fans abuse him? Anyway, the simple fact is he shouldn't have done, and will probably get a fine of the FA and rightly so, but any rational human being knows why he did it and understands.
Stevosevic Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 He clapped the fans, and singled out one idiot. Don't blame him. Not really much to discuss.
Jace Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Last match I went to some guy sat near me was non stop shouting at Konchesky calling him a bald cvnt all 2nd half he didn't even play badly I don't understand why some fans think paying for a ticket gives them the right to shout such abuse at our players for no reason. I bet if he walked past him in the street he wouldn't have the kahunas to say it to his face these are the people who are bad role models at football matches.
jamesmilner Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 no matter what opinion is mine , truth is he is a proffessional and shouldn't have done it .nigel pearson couldn't condone him . matt mills and when he did to the reading fans comes to mind . not a clever thing to do, he hasnt done himself any favours has he ?
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 I applaud Konch for giving a very human response to one particular "fan". There's a lad who sits in front of me at home games who, when someone he doesn't like gets subbed off, stands up, gives them the finger, and shouts obscenities at them until they're off the pitch; I honestly don't get it. It still amazes me that the old "we pay our money so can do what we want" canard gets used as a justification. You pay a relatively small sum of money to watch the game and nothing else; you are not purchasing the privilege to shout your aggressive appraisals of each player at the top of your voice.
21st Century Fox Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Again it boils down to tw@ts who seem to think a football stadium is a bubble that's exempt from the rest of society and you can do whatever you want, if that fan had done that to anyone else, anywhere else a middle finger would be the least that he could've expected. Is any social contract thrown out of the window just because of the amount of money the recipient of the abuse is being paid?
flowwolf Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 I applaud Konch for giving a very human response to one particular "fan". There's a lad who sits in front of me at home games who, when someone he doesn't like gets subbed off, stands up, gives them the finger, and shouts obscenities at them until they're off the pitch; I honestly don't get it. It still amazes me that the old "we pay our money so can do what we want" canard gets used as a justification. You pay a relatively small sum of money to watch the game and nothing else; you are not purchasing the privilege to shout your aggressive appraisals of each player at the top of your voice. Relative to what ? so £30.00 odd quid is a small sum to you is it ? it's so small we don't have the right to get angry at a player who is on twenty grand per week and not worth even the £30.00 you have just paid because he gets sent off or gives away a pointless penalty. If he stuck his finger up at me I would bite it off and shove it up his worthless arse. And as for the rest of you bollockless girly so called fans out there go and get a sport that more suits your feminine traits and leave football to the proper fans.
stourbridgefox Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 And as for the rest of you bollockless girly so called fans out there go and get a sport that more suits your feminine traits and leave football to the proper fans. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's you who wants to shove things up Paul Konchesky's arse !!
sbfox Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Relative to what ? so £30.00 odd quid is a small sum to you is it ? it's so small we don't have the right to get angry at a player who is on twenty grand per week and not worth even the £30.00 you have just paid because he gets sent off or gives away a pointless penalty. If he stuck his finger up at me I would bite it off and shove it up his worthless arse. And as for the rest of you bollockless girly so called fans out there go and get a sport that more suits your feminine traits and leave football to the proper fans. I guess you were one of the one's 'having it large' with the Millwall lot weren't you? Because that's the definition of property fan, isn't it...?
stourbridgefox Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 I guess you were one of the one's 'having it large' with the Millwall lot weren't you? Because that's the definition of property fan, isn't it...? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Getting it large with his keyboard more like.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 I applaud Konch for giving a very human response to one particular "fan". There's a lad who sits in front of me at home games who, when someone he doesn't like gets subbed off, stands up, gives them the finger, and shouts obscenities at them until they're off the pitch; I honestly don't get it. It still amazes me that the old "we pay our money so can do what we want" canard gets used as a justification. You pay a relatively small sum of money to watch the game and nothing else; you are not purchasing the privilege to shout your aggressive appraisals of each player at the top of your voice. Completelty agree with this. It wouldn't be acceptable if at the end of a gig or thearte production if I got up and called the actor every single name under the sun so why should football fans get a right to say whatever they like. I know football is a more emotionally charged event that these but so called 'fans' need to look in the mirror with the level of abuse some of them give to opposition, and even our own, players.
Charl91 Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Relative to what ? so £30.00 odd quid is a small sum to you is it ? it's so small we don't have the right to get angry at a player who is on twenty grand per week and not worth even the £30.00 you have just paid because he gets sent off or gives away a pointless penalty. If he stuck his finger up at me I would bite it off and shove it up his worthless arse. And as for the rest of you bollockless girly so called fans out there go and get a sport that more suits your feminine traits and leave football to the proper fans. If you don't think it's worth the money, don't go. Paying £30 doesn't give you the right to abuse people.
Daggers Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 To me it's typical of society today - a total lack of respect, whether it be teachers, firemen, police, nurses, footballers etc it appears some are quick to to be abusive, yet complain when it is given back. Perhaps professionals should be able to restrain themselves, but at what point do people snap. Then it's all the fault of the person loosing their temper. If people were so abusive in a pub, then the result would be a punch up. I don't applaud Konchesky for his actions, but why should he or any footballer have to go to work and put up with this torrent of abuse week in week out, particularly from his own fans. Money is irrelevant, surgeons earn huge sums of money, yet wouldn't expect to be abused so verbally if they were unsuccessful when operating on a patient. Precisely, except it isn't that 'some' are quick to abuse - it is a much larger part of society these days. They feel it is their right to be abusive and it's often the only thing they can do. It's not acceptable. These inadequates think they can dish out volumes of abuse to professionals on Twitter, on their Facebook accounts and when buried in a crowd; they are cowards and morons.
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 We've got some right scum in our crowd, every club has them, vile cretins, dregs of society. Extermination is the only cure
Daggers Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 We've got some right scum in our crowd, every club has them, vile cretins, dregs of society. Extermination is the only cure I still contend that locking them all in Norfolk & Suffolk is the best solution for everyone.
flowwolf Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Come on folks I was just having a bit of a laugh, can't believe it was taken seriously.
Daggers Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 If you don't think it's worth the money, don't go. Paying £30 doesn't give you the right to abuse people. Back of the net.
leicester4life Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Dont think abusing people is right, giving him a bit of stick if he has been shit is fair enough, he should be able to deal with that with the money he is undoubtably on.
sbfox Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Dont think abusing people is right, giving him a bit of stick if he has been shit is fair enough, he should be able to deal with that with the money he is undoubtably on. Have you just missed the last page of this thread (or indeed not yet learned how to be a human being?) Earning whatever amount to of money doesn't make it tolerable to accept personal, unjustified abuse.
leicester4life Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Read what I put, meaning bit of stick as in, he's passing badly, "use your ****ing eyes you daft bastard" and the like. Read Think Post could be rather a bump when you fall of that horse.
flowwolf Posted 15 April 2012 Posted 15 April 2012 Read what I put, meaning bit of stick as in, he's passing badly, "use your ****ing eyes you daft bastard" and the like. Read Think Post could be rather a bump when you fall of that horse. :chant: :chant: Thank god someone else with a pair of balls.
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