Beckford

[ARM1968]

Dont get a lot of this. Beckford is quality and will score goals. You want your postman to deliver the friggin post, nor mow your lawn and walk your dogs.

A strikers job is to score goals. Beckford will do that.

[marbelladave]

Dont get a lot of this. Beckford is quality and will score goals. You want your postman to deliver the friggin post, nor mow your lawn and walk your dogs.

A strikers job is to score goals. Beckford will do that.

Yes he will, in a team that plays to his strengths!

My doubt is that a NFP managed Leicester City will be able to do that.......

I would love to see NFP develop the side such that it will be able to play to his strengths, I think that would benefit Nugent too, but at the moment I see no evidence that NFP is capable or even wants to do that.

Still, it is a new season and I am happy to see what happens, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised......

[Babylon]

Dont get a lot of this. Beckford is quality and will score goals.

Based on? Goals in league one, in a year Fryatt scored about as many... and he has a better record in this league than Beckford.

I don't understand the attitude that he's going to score goals, because there is actually very little to back it up.

He may well score a hatfull, but saying he will is nothing more than guess work.

[Adster]

Based on? Goals in league one, in a year Fryatt scored about as many... and he has a better record in this league than Beckford.

I don't understand the attitude that he's going to score goals, because there is actually very little to back it up.

He may well score a hatfull, but saying he will is nothing more than guess work.

Totally agree, if he plays anything like the way he played when he first got here then he won't score goals.

His game did see an improvement, however that improvement dipped soon after.

So I have mixed feelings on the matter.

[Daggers]

Based on? Goals in league one, in a year Fryatt scored about as many... and he has a better record in this league than Beckford.

I don't understand the attitude that he's going to score goals, because there is actually very little to back it up.

He may well score a hatfull, but saying he will is nothing more than guess work.

I'd say that scoring the number he did last season with a misfiring City side is a pretty good indicator to what he can do next season?

[nickelbyfox]

I'd say that scoring the number he did last season with a misfiring City side is a pretty good indicator to what he can do next season?

Quite agree, with some better service think he will come good, have faith in him so lets see what happens! Only time will tell

[Babylon]

I'd say that scoring the number he did last season with a misfiring City side is a pretty good indicator to what he can do next season?

All he's proven so far is he can score in 7 league games a season. I want him to be, and hope he is brilliant next year. I still cling to the performance against Boro for hope, as he was sensational.

Fingers crossed a much more mobile midfield next year will yield quicker attacks that he is able to take advantage of.

[Daggers]

All he's proven so far is he can score in 7 league games a season.

Or, another way of looking at it is that he scored fifteen goals during the season.

[Corky]

All he's proven so far is he can score in 7 league games a season.

That's a very accessory-like manipulation of statistics.

Are you friends?

[Babylon]

Or, another way of looking at it is that he scored fifteen goals during the season.

And missed a dozen sitters, miss controlled 1000 passes etc.

That's a very accessory-like manipulation of statistics.

Are you friends?

Can't beat em... join em.

The reason I will always miss out cup goals, is because people said we needed a 20 goal a season man. And by 20 goals a season I took that to mean league goals, because at the time we were talking about promotion.

So, in that sense he is quite some way off at the moment. He was supposed to be the jewel in the crown with the amount of investment thrown his way in wages etc. So 15 goals including cup is a poor return on that investment... so far.

[ARM1968]

Babylon - saying he won't score goals is also guesswork I think you'll find. I believe he can and will. Perhaps a little optimism wouldn't go a miss. The guy has pace and can score goals. He effectively scored 15 in half a season for a side who were shit and miss.

Not counting cup goals is actually quite funny. By the benchmark of a 20 goal a 'season' striker he was actually 5 off, as cup games actually fall within and are part of, the season.

[MPH]

All he's proven so far is he can score in 7 league games a season. I want him to be, and hope he is brilliant next year. I still cling to the performance against Boro for hope, as he was sensational.

Fingers crossed a much more mobile midfield next year will yield quicker attacks that he is able to take advantage of.

He's actually proved he can do more than that in previous seasons. in a higher division too. You DO need to just accept that last season was a bad season for everyone and wasnt a true reflection of anyones ability. We changed our boss at work too recently in strange circumstances. It really did affect morale . It really does make your job much more stessfull if people are on your back all the time ( not meaning you hear but the crowed in gneral have not been that kind to beckford). some his fault? thats debateable. But you will see how he will play with a stable ship.

[Babylon]

Babylon - saying he won't score goals is also guesswork I think you'll find.

Exactly why I never said he wouldn't.

Perhaps a little optimism wouldn't go a miss.

He hasn't done enough for me to be optimistic.

He effectively scored 15 in half a season for a side who were shit and miss.

Well no it was over 46/48 games something like that, not half a season. And you have a go at me for discounting a couple of cup games!?

Not counting cup goals is actually quite funny. By the benchmark of a 20 goal a 'season' striker he was actually 5 off, as cup games actually fall within and are part of, the season.

I clearly stated why. When people were on about a 20 goal a season man it was always in the context of us getting promoted, ie league goals. Because 20 cup goals isn't getting us up is it.

So no, he was a long way off.

[Babylon]

He's actually proved he can do more than that in previous seasons. in a higher division too.

He scored in 7 league games for Everton also. One season in the top flight and 7 league goals is hardly prolific is it.

I hope you are correct about the change of management. If he can get it together a bit more it will be like having a new player.

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

Cup goals never count as goals scored in a season! You might as well count goals scored during training as well if that's the case. Remember last day of the season Beckford got an outstanding hat-trick?

...He was playing Fifa 12. Add that to the tally.

[MattyFromLE]

Cup goals never count as goals scored in a season! You might as well count goals scored during training as well if that's the case. Remember last day of the season Beckford got an outstanding hat-trick?

...He was playing Fifa 12. Add that to the tally.

I really hope you're on the wind up mate. Take away Beckford's cup goals, we wouldn't have had our cup run, which I think is the stand out point from last season. I think Beckford if given service and support can be a force next season, i think the team as a whole failed us last season - they will want to make this up to us, or if not, will be playing for their jobs.

[ARM1968]

Babylon - your implication was obvious. You imply he won't score the goals we need. I believe he will. That's our position and we're both entitled to it.

Beckford only really started playing in the 2nd half of the season. Why that is I don't know. Most here generally accept that.

Likewise many of those calling for a 20 goal a season striker said just that. Very few actually narrowed the specification down to the one you're using.

But again these are only our opinions. I want the best for us this season, like you, but I believe a fit, healthy and motivated Beckford will kick the arse out of this league.

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

MattyFromLE - it's Billy(no longer)FromLE! I'm not saying Beckford's bad - I don't think he plays to his full potential often enough - I'm just saying when people refer to "goals per season" stats, it's referring to domestic league games only. I could score against Rotherham!

[Babylon]

Babylon - your implication was obvious. You imply he won't score the goals we need. I believe he will. That's our position and we're both entitled to it.

No you are wrong, I never said that. I said I don't know what he's done for people to have such confidence in him. I have absolutely no idea what he will do, whether it's 5 or 50 goals. I will never predict anything like that on here.

But again these are only our opinions. I want the best for us this season, like you, but I believe a fit, healthy and motivated Beckford will kick the arse out of this league.

I hope you are correct, would be chuffed if he does.

[Mark_w]

Beckford only really started playing in the 2nd half of the season. Why that is I don't know.

I've got a theory...

[Guest ttfn]

Beckford only really started playing in the 2nd half of the season. Why that is I don't know.

Beckford scored once in the last 9 games of the season. After a good six weeks or so from the back end of January to the middle of March, he was going backwards again.

Beckford is 28 and has never scored double-figures above League One level. What makes you think he'll "kick the arse" of this league exactly?

[ARM1968]

What makes you think he won't? Again your opinion and mine. 28 is a decent age for a striker. Probably got another good 4 years in him.

I just think that in a settled, hard-working and motivated side he will get more service. And as I've said, in a poor team he managed 15 last season.

[MattyFromLE]

MattyFromLE - it's Billy(no longer)FromLE! I'm not saying Beckford's bad - I don't think he plays to his full potential often enough - I'm just saying when people refer to "goals per season" stats, it's referring to domestic league games only. I could score against Rotherham!

But why should we ignore his cup goals? They had no impact on our massive failure of a season granted, but it doesn't make him a bad player because he scored in the FA Cup and didn't score them in the league. Besides, he scored against Forest and Chelsea within that run, Forest were on a bad run admittedly, but it's not like scoring against Chelsea is as easy as scoring against Swindon.

My argument is, that Beckford is a quality striker without his goals last season we arguable wouldn't have had some of the best days out in recent time e.g: Chelsea. He will scored goals next season, if he shows the same effort as he did in those games.

[Babylon]

What makes you think he won't?

I don't know he won't, but the fact he has never done it before at this level surely raises questions. Which is why I'm not sure how people can be as confident in him as they are.

Anyway, the proof will be in the pudding. Lets hope we are sat here this time next year lauding his 20 LEAGUE goals.

[Babylon]

My argument is, that Beckford is a quality striker without his goals last season we arguable wouldn't have had some of the best days out in recent time e.g: Chelsea. He will scored goals next season, if he shows the same effort as he did in those games.

Unless of course the player brought in to replace him scored goals instead, lets not forget that Waghorn outscored him in the league a couple of years ago as a kid. Different teams granted.