Grey Fox Posted 15 July 2012 Posted 15 July 2012 And as I've previously said I didn't enjoy watching the Adam's era Leicester (Paul Merson described Ian Walker as our playmaker during our promotion season). He assembled the oldest Leicester City side in history and squandered the parachute payments. We played far more football under O'Neill than we were given credit for (he benefited from inheriting a decent passing squad from McGhee which he added to wisely) and to compare his style of football to Pearson's is very dishonest. Financially we have had far greater resources than Swansea and Blackpool yet they have assembled attractive, ball playing sides on extremely modest terms. Do you not think that Merson may have been a bit biased towards Portsmouth (our main rivals that season) then? You might not have liked that season, but I did. So I guess we will agree to disagree there. If we finish this season 2nd in the same style, I will like that as well, and I'm sure I wont be alone. I agree that we did play some good football under O'Neill, I never said that we didn't. However my point was that we won two league cups, not ALL playing slick passing football. For example the final and replay against Borough. Not exactly the prettiest games in our history were they, but that remains one of the only trophies we have ever won. I take your point about Swansea and Blackpool, but I can also name several (not so passing) sides that have also had good success without spending fortunes in this division in recent years. Not least Reading last year, and QPR the year before. They won the division and didn't have to rely on the play off lottery to get up either. At the end of the day what I'm saying is that I prefer getting results to watching pretty entertaining football (not that in a perfect world I wouldn't like both). You seem to be saying you would prefer we play attractive entertaining passing football, whether we get results or not, or am I wrong? I respect your opinion, but it doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.
fleckneymike Posted 15 July 2012 Posted 15 July 2012 I would dispute QPR not spending a fortune. Both Faurlin and Taarabt cost 1m plus considerable wages backed by their reasonably wealthy owners. Having said that I'd also never like to see Warnock run the club because he plays some truly dreadful stuff. Me, I'd like to see a City player get into double figures for assists, something that's not happened at Championship level for a decade. You are quite correct that we will seemingly never agree on what is more important style or points.
Basil Brush Posted 15 July 2012 Posted 15 July 2012 Personally i think Pearson has adopted a selective approach in the transfer market this summer, bringing in defender Ritchie De Laet, midfielder Matty James and striker Jamie was deffo a good move!!
Grey Fox Posted 15 July 2012 Posted 15 July 2012 I would dispute QPR not spending a fortune. Both Faurlin and Taarabt cost 1m plus considerable wages backed by their reasonably wealthy owners. Having said that I'd also never like to see Warnock run the club because he plays some truly dreadful stuff. Me, I'd like to see a City player get into double figures for assists, something that's not happened at Championship level for a decade. You are quite correct that we will seemingly never agree on what is more important style or points. Your right, QPR were hardly run on a shoestring, but they didn't spend a fortune by modern football standards either. I'd love us to score a load of goals as well. But I don't really care how they are created. I'll take points over style any day, but like I say, I respect your opposing view.
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 I really hope NP is given the season, if only so we have something that resembles stability. In regard to the comparing of results between NP and Sven, it seems a little pointless as NP's first season was in the 3rd division so isnt a reasonable comparison, and his second spell here was mostly played with "Svens squad". I just want to us play good football and be pushing for promotion.
Leicester_Numan Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 In an ideal world, i'd want us to win playing nice football but it's not an ideal world. We played nice football under Pleat & Magoo but it wasn't that effective. For the future of the club we have to go up, if not this season then next so all I care about is that the football we play works. I wouldn't particularly care if we bored everyone to death with 1-0 wins all scored by own goals. Let's just get out of this division and then think about nice football.
Oadby Fox Posted 16 July 2012 Author Posted 16 July 2012 Expectations Are High For us, Leicester City boss Nigel Pearson admits his side are under pressure to succeed this season. http://www.soarmagazine.co.uk/2012/07/16/expectations-high-for-pearsons-foxes/ My own personal view is that i hope NP is given enough time to succeed, Not just Ten or so games in and results not going our way, The inevitable shouts we will start to hear, It will take that time for the team just to start to blend and if we pick up some good results in that period (bonus). Last season doesn't count in my eyes for NP, he took over a team set in their ways some wanting to play and some not, he had to sort the good from the bad. He should be given a full season at least. I wish him all the best in putting a good strong team together and making LCFC great again (championship league winners will do)
Leicfox Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Expectations are high within the team though this time in my opinion and not just the media circus that came with Sven.
wellyfox Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Makes me piss I started a thread in june saying give NP till xmas at least before slating him. I was slagged off for starting it but yet again we have a thread slating him before a ball is kicked. Wont feed another troll.
Thracian Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 In an ideal world, i'd want us to win playing nice football but it's not an ideal world. We played nice football under Pleat & Magoo but it wasn't that effective. For the future of the club we have to go up, if not this season then next so all I care about is that the football we play works. I wouldn't particularly care if we bored everyone to death with 1-0 wins all scored by own goals. Let's just get out of this division and then think about nice football. We played good football under Matt Gillies and it was the best we've ever been in my lifetime and that includes MON's time here. Every year the argument comes up and every year we play drab, safety-first uncommitted football with all the preictable consequences. Adkins showed the right way at Southampton. Score goals and then score some more. There was never any doubting their commitment and I don't hear any Southampton fans lamenting the loss of Pearson. That City beat Southampton twice last season is only lasting testimony to our lack of belief in ourselves. We pressed high and fast at Southampton but after a thoroughly uplifting display did we continue playing like that for the remaining games? No. It was back to the usual unimaginative, disjointed, inconsistent and under-committed shit. You and 100 others have gone on for years now about winning boring 1-0's and the fact is we don't. And neither do the champions and ruinners up generally. They win promotion by commiting themselves to scoring goals and collecting three points home and away as many times as they possibly can. One day we'll understand that. If our defenders were good enough to keep clean sheets week in and week out they wouldn't be in the Championship. And looking at our collective defence last season there was never the slightest chance of kidding ourselves.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 We played good football under Matt Gillies and it was the best we've ever been in my lifetime and that includes MON's time here. Every year the argument comes up and every year we play drab, safety-first uncommitted football with all the preictable consequences. Ian Atkins showed the right way at Southampton. Score goals and then score some more. There was never any doubting their commitment and I don't hear any Southampton fans lamenting the loss of Pearson. That City beat Southampton twice last season is only lasting testimony to our lack of belief in ourselves. We pressed high and fast at Southampton but after a thoroughly uplifting display did we continue playing like that for the remaining games? No. It was back to the usual unimaginative, disjointed, inconsistent and under-committed shit. You and 100 others have gone on for years now about winning boring 1-0's and the fact is we don't. And neither do the champions and ruinners up generally. They win promotion by commiting themselves to scoring goals and collecting three points home and away as many times as they possibly can. One day we'll understand that. If our defenders were good enough to keep clean sheets week in and week out they wouldn't be in the Championship. And looking at our collective defence last season there was never the slightest chance of kidding ourselves. Superb post... Especially our 'collective defence' which was pretty much non existent in many games. Learn to defend as a team and we stand half a chance in the tough division that is the championship. Like Pearson did in his first tenure to be fair.
fleckneymike Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 We played good football under Matt Gillies and it was the best we've ever been in my lifetime and that includes MON's time here. Every year the argument comes up and every year we play drab, safety-first uncommitted football with all the preictable consequences. Ian Atkins showed the right way at Southampton. Score goals and then score some more. There was never any doubting their commitment and I don't hear any Southampton fans lamenting the loss of Pearson. That City beat Southampton twice last season is only lasting testimony to our lack of belief in ourselves. We pressed high and fast at Southampton but after a thoroughly uplifting display did we continue playing like that for the remaining games? No. It was back to the usual unimaginative, disjointed, inconsistent and under-committed shit. You and 100 others have gone on for years now about winning boring 1-0's and the fact is we don't. And neither do the champions and ruinners up generally. They win promotion by commiting themselves to scoring goals and collecting three points home and away as many times as they possibly can. One day we'll understand that. If our defenders were good enough to keep clean sheets week in and week out they wouldn't be in the Championship. And looking at our collective defence last season there was never the slightest chance of kidding ourselves. I don't mean this disrespectfully but for perhaps the first time in my life I agree with you. As I posted earlier, we keep reverting to the same unsuccessful formula year after year. Why? If you have the chance to try and play football correctly why would you pass that opportunity up?
Thracian Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 In a perfect world I'm sure all of our fans would love us to be as good as Barcelona, but unfortunately the world isn't perfect. I'm confident that the majority of fans would rather watch us win ugly than lose pretty. I certainly would, any day of the week! Attacking and entertaining aren't necessarily all about quick, complex, inter-passing. MON had passers in the side but when he did was make the most of what he had by launching kamikaze-style attacks on the opposition penalty area fed by consistently outstanding crosses from Guppy. With Matt Gillies it was far more about penetrating from the flanks with Stringfellow and Riley being utterly single-minded in posing opposition defenders problems and that weizard of the perfect pass Davie Gibson being able to deliver the ball precisively where it was wanted - and literally onto a matchbox if he so wished. What stamp has Pearson put on our team? While MON had Walsh and Elliott joining Marshall and Heskey in the sort of assault on the penalty box which left the opposition shuddering, we barely got a goal from all our centre-backs put together. Nor did we get many goals as a result of corners or from delivered free-kicks. We barely posed a threat at all.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 I don't mean this disrespectfully but for perhaps the first time in my life I agree with you. As I posted earlier, we keep reverting to the same unsuccessful formula year after year. Why? If you have the chance to try and play football correctly why would you pass that opportunity up? To be fair to Sven I think he knew this and actually tried to play a more attacking game... However this resulted in is winning four nil one week and losing the next couple... ie no consistent performances. Why this went wrong I'm not sure. Maybe square pegs in round holes again or some of his buys just weren't good enough. Or it could have been for off the field reasons. However, some of the games under Sven were crackers to be fair.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 Attacking and entertaining aren't necessarily all about quick, complex, inter-passing. MON had passers in the side but when he did was make the most of what he had by launching kamikaze-style attacks on the opposition penalty area fed by consistently outstanding crosses. With Matt Gillies it was far more about penetrating from the flanks with Stringfellow and Riley being utterly single-minded in posing opposition defenders problems and that weizard of the perfect pass Davie Gibson being able to deliver the ball precisively where it was wanted - and literally onto a matchbox if he so wished. Before my time Thrac.. Can't comment. Sounds good though
Leicester_Numan Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 We played good football under Matt Gillies and it was the best we've ever been in my lifetime and that includes MON's time here. Every year the argument comes up and every year we play drab, safety-first uncommitted football with all the preictable consequences. Adkins showed the right way at Southampton. Score goals and then score some more. There was never any doubting their commitment and I don't hear any Southampton fans lamenting the loss of Pearson. That City beat Southampton twice last season is only lasting testimony to our lack of belief in ourselves. We pressed high and fast at Southampton but after a thoroughly uplifting display did we continue playing like that for the remaining games? No. It was back to the usual unimaginative, disjointed, inconsistent and under-committed shit. You and 100 others have gone on for years now about winning boring 1-0's and the fact is we don't. And neither do the champions and ruinners up generally. They win promotion by commiting themselves to scoring goals and collecting three points home and away as many times as they possibly can. One day we'll understand that. If our defenders were good enough to keep clean sheets week in and week out they wouldn't be in the Championship. And looking at our collective defence last season there was never the slightest chance of kidding ourselves. The opposite is also true, if we were good enough to be playing nice attacking football and scoring goals every week, i'm sure we would have done so. We weren't and we didn't. I don't want us to be winning boring 1-0s I said I wouldn't care if we did. I'm not bothered how we play as long as it works and we get out of this division. Playing nice football is not the primary concern right now
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 As we are still lumbered with Pearson, then we must give him a fair crack of the whip. What, however constitutes this? I am sure opinions will vary, but if we are not in the top six by New Year, then I believe he must go.
Fox92 Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 As we are still lumbered with Pearson, then we must give him a fair crack of the whip. What, however constitutes this? I am sure opinions will vary, but if we are not in the top six by New Year, then I believe he must go. Where have you been, not seen you posting lately
Oadby Fox Posted 17 July 2012 Author Posted 17 July 2012 Nigel Pearson must be given time, urges Leicester City legend Peter Shilton http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/story-16547777-detail/story.html
Mark_w Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 Nigel Pearson must be given time, urges Leicester City legend Peter Shilton http://www.thisislei...tail/story.html Agree with that, I think Sven wasn't given enough time taking into account our position at the time, and I think Nigel needs to be given the entirety of next season unless we really do have a start similar to that under Sousa. Hopefully the owners will be more geneous in the amount of time they gave NP compared to Sven becuase lets face it he hasn't wasted nearly as much money.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 Where have you been, not seen you posting lately I thought I would give you all a rest, and so have have had a couple of months or so away. Never fear, this " Old Git" ain't leaving yet lol
seenitall Posted 19 July 2012 Posted 19 July 2012 Thracian speaks the truth - 1-0 is not the way forward - is Nige the man we want him to be? Time will tell
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