mancunianfox Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Apparently a gunman opened fire on the audience at a Batman premiere in Aurora, Denver. Reuters are reporting that ten are dead with many more injured. With this being a regular event in America (Columbine, Virginia Tech Massacre etc.) surely gun control should be a more hotly debated topic???
Darkon84 Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver Many casualties have been reported after a shooting at a Batman film premiere in the US city of Denver. Police said 30 to 40 people had been injured in the incident, Colorado state's 850 KOA radio reported. A reporter for the 9News website at the scene says a gunman opened fire at the movie cinema complex in Aurora, where three theatres had a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises. Witnesses said someone wearing a gas mask opened fire. There were also reports of a lot of smoke. Reuters news agency quoted a local reporter saying 10 people had died, but this is unconfirmed. The Swedish Medical Center, which is not the area's main hospital, told the BBC it had received three gunshot victims. Many ambulances are at the scene and it not clear if there is an active manhunt for the shooter. NBC News reports that one suspect was in custody. A witness told 9News that during a shooting scene in the film he heard loud bangs and a lot of smoke and initially thought they were live special effects put on by the cinema. Projectiles came through the wall from the neighbouring theatre screening, where it appears the shooting occurred.
rico Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 i thought from the title heading,they were already making a new movie
Fox92 Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 The first time you actually need him, but Batman is nowhere to be seen.
ousefox Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Really can't understand why they are so happy to have such lax gun laws there. Theses things happen far too often.
Raj Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Another mad gunman on the loose in Yank land. When will they learn....
purpleronnie Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Apparently a gunman opened fire on the audience at a Batman premiere in Aurora, Denver. Reuters are reporting that ten are dead with many more injured. With this being a regular event in America (Columbine, Virginia Tech Massacre etc.) surely gun control should be a more hotly debated topic??? It always is a hotly debated topic, but americans hold the constitution to their hearts, add to that the NRA have a huige influence in congress meaning it would be very difficult to pass any stricter laws. The law abiding americans who own guns dont believe they should have their constitutional right taken away because of criminals. Its very different in britain where as soon as an incident happen we have the ability to ban it outright, some would see that as an infringement on our rights, but as britian never has had a gun culture those sort of bans pass through without any problems. People have to stop looking at this with a british sensibility.
Captain... Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 It always is a hotly debated topic, but americans hold the constitution to their hearts, add to that the NRA have a huige influence in congress meaning it would be very difficult to pass any stricter laws. The law abiding americans who own guns dont believe they should have their constitutional right taken away because of criminals. Its very different in britain where as soon as an incident happen we have the ability to ban it outright, some would see that as an infringement on our rights, but as britian never has had a gun culture those sort of bans pass through without any problems. People have to stop looking at this through a british sensibility. What astounded me was the way bullets were sold in wal marts*, there is one thing having the right to own a gun, it is another the way it is so available and so ingrained into the culture. An ex of mine was american and she was taught how to use her daddy's gun when she was 11. *Don't know if that is still the case.
purpleronnie Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 What astounded me was the way bullets were sold in wal marts*, there is one thing having the right to own a gun, it is another the way it is so available and so ingrained into the culture. An ex of mine was american and she was taught how to use her daddy's gun when she was 11. *Don't know if that is still the case. As far as I'm aware it is...but its ingrained in the culture because its part of culture in america...you have to understand the difference in mentality in gun ownership between brits and americans. Britains see guns as weapons, something to be scared of, its completely the opposite (for most) americans.
Fox92 Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Just read an article which said a baby was shot at point-blank range
21st Century Fox Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 It'd be that slightly bit harder to fill prisons full of cheap labour with stricter gun laws.
Jordan Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 There are more to killing sprees than gun laws, but access to guns and handgun "culture" are certainly massive factors. What is often sad about mass murder sprees are that so often, when the killer is profiled, there always seem to have been several red flags that come up when the killer's behavior leading up to the rampage is analyzed. The Columbine "trench coat mafia" (BTW Littleton, CO is near Aurora), Cho from West Virginia, Jared Lee Loughner of the Tuscon, AZ shooting last year, the guy that went on a shooting rampage in an Alabama bar this week et al. all seemed to be disturbed men, detached from reality and had histories of having delusions and behaving menacingly and/or erratically. It's not just a matter of "How are these guys able to get their hands on weapons," but also, "How does nobody recognize that these are mentally ill people that can pose grave danger to themselves and others, and why hadn't anyone intervened before it was too late?"
Guest MattP Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 I find it weird people over the age of 12 go to watch Batman and Spiderman.
purpleronnie Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 I find it weird people over the age of 12 go to watch Batman and Spiderman. me too.
Jimothy Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 I find it weird people over the age of 12 go to watch Batman and Spiderman. Because that's the issue in this story!
Rincewind Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 It does happen in Britain but the killers can not readily get hold of the guns. The killers therefore respectable and llicensed gun holders and the signs should be easier to spot. In America with almost anyone being allowed to have them it is hard to spot the danger signs. I am sure there are bans or the need for licenses in some states. With so many out of the way towns that sell guns however it would be difficult to monitor them. What amazes me is the type of gun available. If somebody walks into a gun shop and asks for a machine gun with ammo it is unlikely they are going to shoot rabbits. Yet it happens. Just a thought. for American Foxes. What safeguards to gunshops have in place to prevent them from being robbed? Any group could cause a lot of mayhem with the contents.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 I find it weird people over the age of 12 go to watch Batman and Spiderman. me too. Or Sherlock Holmes? or James Bond? or Indiana Jones? Or do you only watch factual films, you boring sods? Baaaaaack to subject apparently the shooter, James Holmes, has booby-trapped his home. He was also wearing a bullet-proof vest and riot gear, similar to the villain Bane in the film. One witness said the gunman had been "slowly making his way up the stairs and just firing - picking random people". Another witness, Chayyiel Jackson, told the BBC: "During the first action scene in the movie, on the right side a dude came in all blacked out, with a black mask. At first we thought it was part of the movie event. "He threw tear gas across the crowd and after that people started to panic. He pulled out a rifle and started shooting There's little doubt in my mind that he is a nutter who decided to try and make a stab at infamy by re-enacting the film.
ADK Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Knowing America they will deem the film at fault for making this law abiding gun toting citizen do something bad.
Rincewind Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 It may turn out that he is a huge Batman fan with boxes of comics under his bed. Then there will be the calls for the films being banned as they promote copycats. My heroes are Austin Powers and Casanova if anyone want any argument against that.
purpleronnie Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Or Sherlock Holmes? or James Bond? or Indiana Jones? Or do you only watch factual films, you boring sods? Nah, but I draw the line at comic book nonsense.
purpleronnie Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 It does happen in Britain but the killers can not readily get hold of the guns. The killers therefore respectable and llicensed gun holders and the signs should be easier to spot. In America with almost anyone being allowed to have them it is hard to spot the danger signs. I am sure there are bans or the need for licenses in some states. With so many out of the way towns that sell guns however it would be difficult to monitor them. What amazes me is the type of gun available. If somebody walks into a gun shop and asks for a machine gun with ammo it is unlikely they are going to shoot rabbits. Yet it happens. Just a thought. for American Foxes. What safeguards to gunshops have in place to prevent them from being robbed? Any group could cause a lot of mayhem with the contents. Its equally unlikely they will use it to shoot people.
sphericalfox Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Apart from another lunatic going do-lally in Denver, is anybody else concerned that in news stories there have been reports of children being shot.....wait for it.....at midnight at a cinema. Who the **** brings any child over the age of 15 to a cinema at midnight? I'm sure I read a 6 year old has been injured, and another report said a baby, now this could be all bull, but seriously wtf.
Rincewind Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 Its equally unlikely they will use it to shoot people. OK a machine gun is OTT but they are owned by some big time gangs. Re children inside. I thought the film would have a guidance rating. The modern day Batman films are pretty violent and dark. Not suitable for very young children. Not at midnight anyway.
purpleronnie Posted 20 July 2012 Posted 20 July 2012 OK a machine gun is OTT but they are owned by some big time gangs. Re children inside. I thought the film would have a guidance rating. The modern day Batman films are pretty violent and dark. Not suitable for very young children. Not at midnight anyway. Gangs will often use stolen or illegal guns to avoid being traced.
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