Ashley Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 I have always said this on this forum and I will it again, Pre-Season games are more about match fitness rather than results however it is nice to get that fitness and the win also. Today we played a Shrewsbury team who have just been promoted from League Two and I could see why, they played a nice passing game which made us a Championship side look rather ordinary! Two well taken goals from the Shrewsbury players, not sure if the striker knew a lot about that header for the second goal though. We didn't really get going in this game and had, what one shot? Possibly two No disrespect to Shrewsbury but if we want to be challenging this coming season we need to be doing better. Any Shrewsbury fans reading this well done today and good luck in the on coming season I am sure you will be more than capable in League One.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 We conceded 4 at Hinckley or Quorn a few years ago and people panicked about the defence. We let in 39 league goals in the season. We beat Peterborough 5-1 two years ago yet lost 6 of our opening 9 games. Pre-season results are not the be-all and end-all. It's a time for trying out players and getting formations to see if they fit. Both. We beat Hinckley 5-4 and Quorn 8-4, serious value for money! Today just sounded dull and I'd rather they get matches like this out of their systems now so that something can be done about it before the season proper. There's never any reason to look into pre-season results, and that counts as much for Tuesday.
Soar Fox Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 I disagree with the people who are saying it's all about fitness and the result doesn't matter. Whenever I play a game whether it's a Saturday afternoon or a Sunday morning I want to win as well as building my fitness up. We need to start getting a winning mentality from the off. These were the kind of games last season where we would go to the "lesser" teams and get beat. The players that we had out there today I would have hoped even if they weren't at there very best that they would have had the ability to at least get a result.
Leicester Lass Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Result is completely irrelevant, the worrying thing was our complete inability to even manage to do simple things right. The whole performance was sloppy and our ball retention was abysmal. Shrewsbury pressured us all over the park and only a few of our players looked confident and composed with the ball at their feet, the others resorted to long, aimless balls which inevitably gave away possession. Let's be honest, the first half team was not far from full strength, and they were made to look incredibly poor by a very organised and hard working Shrewsbury. Lots of work to be done.
Webbo Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 It was a poor result and by the sound of it a poor performance against a team a division below us. We didn't gain anything from that match. I know it was only preseason but I'd still expect better than that.
Happy Fox Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Sounds like Beckford is a gonner judging on what NP has said.
Guest nathan. Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Sounds like Beckford is a gonner judging on what NP has said. How do you work that out?
Happy Fox Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 How do you work that out? He said that the squad that was involved in the Hinckley game and todays will be the one for the season it sort of implied to me that Beckford wasn't a part of that I could be wrong.
Corky Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Result is completely irrelevant, the worrying thing was our complete inability to even manage to do simple things right. The whole performance was sloppy and our ball retention was abysmal. Shrewsbury pressured us all over the park and only a few of our players looked confident and composed with the ball at their feet, the others resorted to long, aimless balls which inevitably gave away possession. Let's be honest, the first half team was not far from full strength, and they were made to look incredibly poor by a very organised and hard working Shrewsbury. Lots of work to be done. Absolutely. The most important thing is to get fitness up, cohesion within the team and show the ability to pass and move. These are the games in which to do it. I'm going to Lincoln next week and I hope to see us fired up and showing signs of what we hope to achieve in terms of style for the season.
ForDuckSake Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Didn't Newcastle get stuffed by a League Two team in pre-season before they walked the Championship? Results mean nothing at this stage shrewsbury are in league 1 now.
Smiithy Fox Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 He said that the squad that was involved in the Hinckley game and todays will be the one for the season it sort of implied to me that Beckford wasn't a part of that I could be wrong. I thought that beckford wasn't in the squad as he's ill, nothing to do with Pearson? I might have missed something though.
CosbehFox Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 It was a poor result and by the sound of it a poor performance against a team a division below us. We didn't gain anything from that match. I know it was only preseason but I'd still expect better than that. We did. The reason why Newcastle performed after that Orient defeat was that it created some determination in the squad. Hopefully this performs the same effect. Anyway looking at results, we were not the worst. Forest lost to Mansfield and Cardiff to Forest Green.
Jaspa Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Was Chris Weale in goal for them ? I guessing not, because Marshall would've had 5 !
FoxInWales Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Result is completely irrelevant, the worrying thing was our complete inability to even manage to do simple things right. The whole performance was sloppy and our ball retention was abysmal. Shrewsbury pressured us all over the park and only a few of our players looked confident and composed with the ball at their feet, the others resorted to long, aimless balls which inevitably gave away possession. Let's be honest, the first half team was not far from full strength, and they were made to look incredibly poor by a very organised and hard working Shrewsbury. Lots of work to be done. Just back, very good summary. The longer the game went on, the worse we looked. Big improvement needed.
jamesmilner Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 the only FACT i can see is 2-0 ! then comes the hopes,dreams or "delusions of granduer" !
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 This really does mean nowt in the big scheme of things. I wouldn't be surprised if there are another one or two changes to personnel before the season starts. Well done Shrewsbury. They sound like a decent side and I hope they have a good season.
Kitchandro Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 I wouldn't really care if we'd lost 2-0 or won 10-0, we don't have the players for promotion, I've been saying we need certain types of player for about 2 season's now and we still don't seem to have even attempted to fix such problems, I don't think anyone should be surprised to see us play more drab, clueless football with few ideas, creativity and final product. As with last season, they can say it's just a friendly and that's fine for now but there will be no hiding place if we start the season slowly, because that really does matter. The level of performance needs to be promising at the very least.
Ashley Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 He said that the squad that was involved in the Hinckley game and todays will be the one for the season it sort of implied to me that Beckford wasn't a part of that I could be wrong. If someone isn't fit and has been un well would you really expect them to be involved in a squad?
Ric Flair Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 I wouldn't really care if we'd lost 2-0 or won 10-0, we don't have the players for promotion, I've been saying we need certain types of player for about 2 season's now and we still don't seem to have even attempted to fix such problems, I don't think anyone should be surprised to see us play more drab, clueless football with few ideas, creativity and final product. As with last season, they can say it's just a friendly and that's fine for now but there will be no hiding place if we start the season slowly, because that really does matter. The level of performance needs to be promising at the very least. What types of players and who are we missing? A good left winger and a physical ball winner is all we're lacking in my opinion. Strikers will be fine, Marshall is shit hot and the defence and goalie are up to it too.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 I wouldn't really care if we'd lost 2-0 or won 10-0, we don't have the players for promotion, I've been saying we need certain types of player for about 2 season's now and we still don't seem to have even attempted to fix such problems, I don't think anyone should be surprised to see us play more drab, clueless football with few ideas, creativity and final product. As with last season, they can say it's just a friendly and that's fine for now but there will be no hiding place if we start the season slowly, because that really does matter. The level of performance needs to be promising at the very least. We could have exactly the type of player you desire and we could have still lost today. The pre season always throws up some bizarre results. Always. Give it ten games or so then we will know how good or bad we are looking. Today means nothing re. How we will do this season.
Grewks Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 What worries me is not the scoreline. It is the fact we are still playing 4-4-2 away from home, which never works. Pearson is clearly playing this in the season, as he is not experimenting while it is still possible.
jamesmilner Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 What types of players and who are we missing? A good left winger and a physical ball winner is all we're lacking in my opinion. Strikers will be fine, Marshall is shit hot and the defence and goalie are up to it too. we are missing a leader that is a born winner ! a kevin nolan type, its so noticable its unreal ?
MattSTFC Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 They've got a very good manager, great home record last season, on a high from promotion and haven't had to rebuild half a squad like us. Nine out and ten in since the end of last season. Thanks to those in this thread who have made generous comments about Town today. Nigel Pearson is a Town legend and so I hope you do well under his management.
Bert Posted 28 July 2012 Posted 28 July 2012 Only Danns and Moore can really come out of the game with any credit from me. Drinkwater was shockingly bad. The less said about the performance the better
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