Danns and Pearson bust up?!

[Bluetintedspecs]

Wonder what Cloughie, Shanks n Paisley would think? Bet they'd turn in their graves over his hard ass attitude

[5waller5]

It shows nothing because you have no idea what's happened.

Secondly has he ever "fallen out" with a player he has signed? No. Why? Because as he constantly says attitude is as important as anything else and he makes as much effort as possible to make sure the signings have the right sort.

Morgan and Whitbread are experienced and seemed to have no problem signing.

With respect to those two who are great for where we are now - I'm talking about the players that get you in the top half of the premiership ... where they earn great money and may have a bit of a swagger ....

And no, I don't know what has gone on - apart from that two senior pros are training with the under 21s ..... clearly designed to show them who's boss and humiliate them.

[Bluetintedspecs]

With respect to those two who are great for where we are now - I'm talking about the players that get you in the top half of the premiership ... where they earn great money and may have a bit of a swagger ....

And no, I don't know what has gone on - apart from that two senior pros are training with the under 21s ..... clearly designed to show them who's boss and humiliate them.

I find it reassuring that none of NPs business is ever leaked by him, transfers or internal affairs, an admirable quality.

[Daggers]

He's totally fvcked up Pearson's car

[I am Rod Hull]

He's totally fvcked up Pearson's car

Another cookie dough explosion?

[Cafox1970]

I can't help thinking Beckford to another Championship club is gonna come back and bite us somewhere.

[5waller5]

I find it reassuring that none of NPs business is ever leaked by him, transfers or internal affairs, an admirable quality.

Not to fans .... But you can be absolutely sure that footballers share their views on managers during their career. Who knows .... all speculation!!

[Mack]

I think there's a factor some of you quick to say '**** Danns and Beckford we are winning' have forgotten.

And that's the fact that Football is a squad game.

We've had one decent win, however Nugent is the only striker being picked that is scoring, and it will only take a couple of injuries in midfield and the likes of Danns would be an important addition to the side.

I have no idea why Danns and Beckford are being frozen out, however what I do know is that we have a relatively small squad now, and we need every player at our disposal fit, positive and motivated to the cause.

If you offered these two players to all the other Championship managers for their squad I'm pretty sure they would snap your hand of, every single one of them.

It seems counter productive to me to make war and divisions within the squad with personnel that could aid the achievement of our goal.

[indierich06]

I think there's a factor some of you quick to say '**** Danns and Beckford we are winning' have forgotten.

And that's the fact that Football is a squad game.

We've had one decent win, however Nugent is the only striker being picked that is scoring, and it will only take a couple of injuries in midfield and the likes of Danns would be an important addition to the side.

I have no idea why Danns and Beckford are being frozen out, however what I do know is that we have a relatively small squad now, and we need every player at our disposal fit, positive and motivated to the cause.

If you offered these two players to all the other Championship managers for their squad I'm pretty sure they would snap your hand of, every single one of them.

It seems counter productive to me to make war and divisions within the squad with personnel that could aid the achievement of our goal.

I've got a pretty good idea why neither of them are in the side - they're both crap and not good enough. Beckford - the striker who doesn't score goals and Danns the midfielder who runs around like a headless chicken, who can't pass, keep hold of the ball or tackle.

[Tielemans63]

I'm sure someone will have mentioned this already but could it be that they're just not that good? Overpaid and not that good.

I saw them both play numerous times last season and neither struck me as being anything special.

[Mack]

I've got a pretty good idea why neither of them are in the side - they're both crap and not good enough. Beckford - the striker who doesn't score goals and Danns the midfielder who runs around like a headless chicken, who can't pass, keep hold of the ball or tackle.

Were you doing a 90 minute poznan for the second half of last season? Because Danns was our best player for a lot of it

[indierich06]

Were you doing a 90 minute poznan for the second half of last season? Because Danns was our best player for a lot of it

No, I watched a thoroughly average player have a couple of half decent games before he got red carded due to his absolute inability to tackle. Neil Danns can't tackle and makes late challenges, he can't pass, he can't keep possession of the ball, his reading of the game is non-existant. Anyone who is saying Danns is the answer... well I can only assume the question they're asking is 'who is our worst midfielder?'

[Babylon]

With respect to those two who are great for where we are now - I'm talking about the players that get you in the top half of the premiership ... where they earn great money and may have a bit of a swagger ....

And no, I don't know what has gone on - apart from that two senior pros are training with the under 21s ..... clearly designed to show them who's boss and humiliate them.

So as soon as someone plays in the premier and are any good they develop an ego, nonsense. How about the players talk to the umpteen other players who play under him with no problem whatsoever?

Again you have no idea why they are playing there. So you don't know it's anything to do with humiliation or showing someone who is boss. If those two are about to leave, it's the right choice, similarly a dozen other things could have happened that means it's the right choice.

Were you doing a 90 minute poznan for the second half of last season? Because Danns was our best player for a lot of it

I think "a lot" is pushing it.

[Babylon]

I think there's a factor some of you quick to say '**** Danns and Beckford we are winning' have forgotten.

And that's the fact that Football is a squad game.

We've had one decent win, however Nugent is the only striker being picked that is scoring, and it will only take a couple of injuries in midfield and the likes of Danns would be an important addition to the side.

I have no idea why Danns and Beckford are being frozen out, however what I do know is that we have a relatively small squad now, and we need every player at our disposal fit, positive and motivated to the cause.

If you offered these two players to all the other Championship managers for their squad I'm pretty sure they would snap your hand of, every single one of them.

It seems counter productive to me to make war and divisions within the squad with personnel that could aid the achievement of our goal.

Perhaps the club needs to get rid financially, perhaps they are back stabbers. Perhaps they are just overpaid under performers who the manager thinks are a huge drain on our resources.

There are plenty of potential and perfectly reasonable things that could explain the situation.

[Mack]

Perhaps the club needs to get rid financially, perhaps they are back stabbers. Perhaps they are just overpaid under performers who the manager thinks are a huge drain on our resources.

There are plenty of potential and perfectly reasonable things that could explain the situation.

We've had more freeze outs than Iceland, and in the small squad we have now I'm just saying it could come back to bite us.

I know there are those like you who will try and piss on any potential fire in and around our club, and I'm a Pearson fan also, I just think we are missing a trick upsetting what could be two very useful players for us.

[dynamark]

How this thread has got this far is beyond belief.Pearson can only pick 18 and that is what he did.

Danns seems like a super character to have at the club but ability wise is down the order a bit at present.Beckford no.

On the training thing that seems perfectly sensible.probably training at different times due to match schedule and the U 21 will benefit from having them involved.

[Babylon]

We've had more freeze outs than Iceland, and in the small squad we have now I'm just saying it could come back to bite us.

I know there are those like you who will try and piss on any potential fire in and around our club, and I'm a Pearson fan also, I just think we are missing a trick upsetting what could be two very useful players for us.

But there is the crux of it, I doubt very much Pearson thinks they could be useful. And if he does, not useful enough for what they are costing. Frankly I would be hard pushed to disagree if that were the case.

[Guest Col city fan]

But there is the crux of it, I doubt very much Pearson thinks they could be useful. And if he does, not useful enough for what they are costing. Frankly I would be hard pushed to disagree if that were the case.

Spot on Mr B..

[accessory]

No, I watched a thoroughly average player have a couple of half decent games before he got red carded due to his absolute inability to tackle. Neil Danns can't tackle and makes late challenges, he can't pass, he can't keep possession of the ball, his reading of the game is non-existant. Anyone who is saying Danns is the answer... well I can only assume the question they're asking is 'who is our worst midfielder?'

The answer to that question is obvious to anyone who has attended our away games on a regular basis over the past two seasons.

And it's not Neil Danns..

[Babylon]

Jermaine Beckford has to prove he is worthy of a place in the Leicester City team, says manager Nigel Pearson.

The striker was omitted from City's 18-man squad for Sunday's victory against Hull at the King Power Stadium

Beckford's exclusion sparked further speculation that he would soon be on his way out of City on loan.

Huddersfield have maintained their interest in the player, who they almost signed on loan during the transfer window only for City to stop Beckford's departure at the last minute.

Beckford is one of City's top earners, but Pearson said that was not a consideration when he is picking his squad.

"Any players who are left out the side, the onus is on them to work hard to get back in there and other players have done more to warrant their places," said Pearson, who refused to be drawn on Beckford going out on loan.

"So, I'm not bothered whether they are perceived to be high-profile or youngsters, players have to earn their right to be in there.

"If players aren't selected, the onus is on them to respond. I don't care if they are senior players or young professionals.

"My job is to pick a side that is best for the club and the team, in terms of being able to produce results. Those who are not involved, it is up to them to work hard to get back in.

"I am not bothered if they are high earners or low earners, it doesn't interest me."

Pearson praised striker David Nugent, who started the season on the substitutes' bench as Beckford was initially preferred.

Nugent has worked his way back into the side and, a few days after scoring his first goal of the season in the victory against Burnley, he scored the first hat-trick of his career as City beat the Tigers 3-1 on Sunday.

"You have to have faith in the players you believe in," said Pearson. "He didn't start the season but, since he has been back in there, he has worked very hard.

"It is about winning games, and who scores the goals is irrelevant as far as I am concerned. But as far as strikers are concerned, in terms of their own confidence, they need to be scoring goals and getting chances."

** Although the Merc focus on JB at no point did Pearson mention him specifically.

[Mack]

But there is the crux of it, I doubt very much Pearson thinks they could be useful. And if he does, not useful enough for what they are costing. Frankly I would be hard pushed to disagree if that were the case.

And I guess football is a game of opinions and we are both entitled to our own.

If you get a chance, go and watch Danns in the second half last season, he was our best player and a match winning game changer, I doubt he has become a bad player over night. And you wont find any of the fans at his previous clubs saying he was shit either. Of course Pearson has the right to treat whichever player he chooses like shit, and he'll ultimately sink or swim upon those decisions.

On the Beckford situation I'd wager the club are trying to piss him off as much as possible to get him out and off the wage bill. Our owners seem to have had a change of heart on the big money deals just lately.

[Mack]

Jermaine Beckford has to prove he is worthy of a place in the Leicester City team, says manager Nigel Pearson.

The striker was omitted from City's 18-man squad for Sunday's victory against Hull at the King Power Stadium

Beckford's exclusion sparked further speculation that he would soon be on his way out of City on loan.

Huddersfield have maintained their interest in the player, who they almost signed on loan during the transfer window only for City to stop Beckford's departure at the last minute.

Beckford is one of City's top earners, but Pearson said that was not a consideration when he is picking his squad.

"Any players who are left out the side, the onus is on them to work hard to get back in there and other players have done more to warrant their places," said Pearson, who refused to be drawn on Beckford goingout on loan.

"So, I'm not bothered whether they are perceived to be high-profile or youngsters, players have to earn their right to be in there.

"If players aren't selected, the onus is on them to respond. I don't care if they are senior players or young professionals.

"My job is to pick a side that is best for the club and the team, in terms of being able to produce results. Those who are not involved, it is up to them to work hard to get back in.

"I am not bothered if they are high earners or low earners, it doesn't interest me."

Pearson praised striker David Nugent, who started the season on the substitutes' bench as Beckford was initially preferred.

Nugent has worked his way back into the side and, a few days after scoring his first goal of the season in the victory against Burnley, he scored the first hat-trick of his career as City beat the Tigers 3-1 on Sunday.

"You have to have faith in the players you believe in," said Pearson. "He didn't start the season but, since he has been back in there, he has worked very hard.

"It is about winning games, and who scores the goals is irrelevant as far as I am concerned. But as far as strikers are concerned, in terms of their own confidence, they need to be scoring goals and getting chances."

** Although the Merc focus on JB at no point did Pearson mention him specifically.

How can Danns or Beckford prove they deserve their place in the team whilst training with the kids?

[Captain...]

I think there's a factor some of you quick to say '**** Danns and Beckford we are winning' have forgotten.

And that's the fact that Football is a squad game.

We've had one decent win, however Nugent is the only striker being picked that is scoring, and it will only take a couple of injuries in midfield and the likes of Danns would be an important addition to the side.

I have no idea why Danns and Beckford are being frozen out, however what I do know is that we have a relatively small squad now, and we need every player at our disposal fit, positive and motivated to the cause.

If you offered these two players to all the other Championship managers for their squad I'm pretty sure they would snap your hand of, every single one of them.

It seems counter productive to me to make war and divisions within the squad with personnel that could aid the achievement of our goal.

I find it funny you say that, whilst posting speculation, trying to create war and division amongst the fans, and this gets back to the club and creates an atmosphere and heaps tension on the club, anyway, that is a little aside, not my main point.

I am not saying fvck Danns and Beckford, I do like them both, and think they both have the ability to be a part of this squad, but they are off form, and there are many purely footballing reasons to not pick them, this is without being able to see them train every day, which NP does, and the fact that both are getting on in their careers, unlike the young guns that are taking their place on the bench, Waggy, Futacs, Schlupp, James/King, who will benefit and grow from more game time.

This is not to say that something hasn't happened behind the scenes, and if Stringer is right, and it was hardly the most convincing tweet, and they are permanently training with the U21s, and it wasn't just a temporary thing, then perhaps something has happened, but posting idle speculation about what it is, and laying the blame solely at NP's door without any proof, is not exactly promoting harmony and unity, under Sven it was clear we had no team spirit, I am not blaming this on Danns and Beckford, but we just looked like a bunch of individuals, and not a team.

Now we look like a team again, and if certain people do disrupt this unity then it is the best for the team to get rid, Nigel is our manager and was our most successful manager in about a decade, I trust him and support him in that every decision he makes is for the benefit of the team and the club, in the face of no evidence to the contrary, I will continue to do so.

[Happy Fox]

How can Danns or Beckford prove they deserve their place in the team whilst training with the kids?

Having the right attitude, accepting they are in the wrong/were in the wrong, and work damn hard to prove to NP they deserve a second chance it is up to them they know who the boss is.

[Babylon]

If you get a chance, go and watch Danns in the second half last season

I was there and saw him, he had a decent spell of games but I don't think there were that many. He had more bad than good over the whole season, although that's probably true about most players.

I don't mind Danns, I think he's useful to have about. But having no facts at hand about what has gone on it's rather difficult for me to lambast Pearson over something that could quite conceivably be in the best interests of the club. Attitude, personality are things the management have always highlighted as being important. Danns comes across as an alright bloke, but none of us really know him. We don't know their attitude to not playing or to critisism etc.