FantasticMrFuchs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 What's it about? There was an altercation after the Burton game between player(s) & coaching staff. Danns tweeted and quickly deleted his thoughts/opinions on said events, that got back to the management. Which is why he rarely tweets lcfc related info since the game.or has any "banter" with other players in the squad. This has resulted in the club bringing in new rules for twitter/social media because NP doesn't like it basically. Bristol City & Crystal Palace both came in (Season long loan) for him on deadline day but the club rejected both offers. Danns not happy he is not in the starting 11 / first team regular, Nor is he allowed to leave on loan. Will we see him back in a blue shirt?? Unlikely unless he is required due to injurys.
Haydos Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I wasn't aware we reject any loan offers for him. Is this well known/is there a source? Another point, he doesn't deserve to be starting and to be honest I don't care if any player is 'unhappy about not starting'. They should work their socks off in training and if they don't take their chance when given it (eg. Danns awful v Burton) then they're getting what they deserve. Kingy was dropped and fell out of favour, he's worked his way back into the team again. Just because a player isn't in the starting XI they can't be demanding transfers all the time, they signed a contract that milks the club for as much as possible, DEAL WITH IT. Also, why is it always all drama'd up as a 'bust up'? This sounds like basically nothing has happened.
Corky Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Konchesky, Nugent,Kasper and St Ledger a bit debatable that he doesn't like Sven players. Pearson probably doesn't want Sven's players that, by and large, haven't been that impressive for us. He's had no problem with picking the 4 you mention, because they've been solid, reliable or impressive, have Beckford and Danns had the consistency of performance those listed (with the possible exception of St Ledger) shown?
Matt Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Why is it there always has to be a bust up with Pearson? Why can't it be a case of players simply not performing so are dropped? Which you cannot argue against that really, players in question havn't been performing, but no there has to be abit of drama, Pearson must have had a punch up with them, he must be pushing them out the door (I'm not saying Pearson has never had a bust up with any players - It's very likely he has but every time a player is dropped people automatically think it means they have had a bust up with Pearson)
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Not just Danns though is it? There is a reason him and Beckford are not playing or featuring in the first team squad.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I'd agree ... he also has his favourites and if you fall out of favour you do so quickly!!! He seems to have patience for tryers (unsurprisingly), I'd have had Danns down to be a tryer though which is why this one seems strange. I'd say that Dannsy is a trier too, however IMO running around like an energiser bunny and constantly giving the ball away are his downfall not lack of effort.Personally Waller I don't give a damn if NP is having fall outs and lays the law down and makes tough/ ruthless decisions, that's what he's paid for. Some of the greatest managers in Football history ruled with an iron rod and are revered for their no nonsense style.A weak subservient manager will be trampled on in this great game so long may NPs I'm the boss attitude continue for me.
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Why is it there always has to be a bust up with Pearson? Why can't it be a case of players simply not performing so are dropped? Which you cannot argue against that really, players in question havn't been performing, but no there has to be abit of drama, Pearson must have had a punch up with them, he must be pushing them out the door (I'm not saying Pearson has never had a bust up with any players - It's very likely he has but every time a player is dropped people automatically think it means they have had a bust up with Pearson) Cornetto-Fox, on 24 September 2012 - 12:04 AM, said: There was an altercation after the Burton game between player(s) & coaching staff. Don't have to just upset NP, piss off his merry men and you'll suffer the same fate
Haydos Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Not just Danns though is it? There is a reason him and Beckford are not playing or featuring in the first team squad. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder and seem to want to make everything into a big thing with Pearson. I don't doubt that something went on with Mills but there's been nothing to suggest anything else major has happened. Why is the reason that they're not featuring simply 'because they've been below par this season'.
Matt Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Not just Danns though is it? There is a reason him and Beckford are not playing or featuring in the first team squad. You really think Beckford deserves a place? Out of the two i'd say Danns should be in the squad (Not the team but squad) but even then we don't know how they are performing in training, It comes across to me that Beckford simply can't be bothered most of the time - When he can be bothered he is one of the best players in the team, it's not very often he can be bothered though, I know 'No players goes on the pitch not being bothered', 'They always go out to try their best', 'They never go on the pitch to play bad' but thats what comes across regards Beckford and that is where my argument of an attitude problem comes from with Beckford. As for Danns I can't really comment as he hasn't played (Only in 1 game that we'd all rather forget) and I don't see the player in training but perhaps he isn't perfoming in training, who knows, he may have had a bust up with Pearson but equally like I keep saying he might not be performing in training, my argument stands up as much as unsubstantiated rumours of a bust up with the manager. Also, you can't argue that Pearson doesn't give people second chances, remember he apparently had a bust up with St Ledger and he worked his way back in the team and playing regular now, i'm sure he'd do similar with most players he's had 'bust ups' with if they got their heads down, worked hard and proved him wrong.
Tielemans63 Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I'm loving NP's management technique - accept my decisions or I'll kick your ****ing head off.
Corky Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I'm loving NP's management technique - accept my decisions or I'll kick your ****ing head off.
Captain... Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 So why is he training with the U21s? You gotta source for that?
Captain... Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 There HAS been a big bust up between NP & Danns, Nothing about us winning yesterday and being negative towards the club. Those that don't see there is a issue between the two of them need to take those rose tinted glasses off. You gotta a source for that? It is not rose tinted glasses, it is facts, you have any facts to back it up I'll listen. My facts are Beckford started first 2 games, and Danns got 2 chances to impress, Burton and Blackburn and failed. The other fact is Danns was out for quite a while with injury, but also had the chance to impress pre-season, I can see plenty of football reason's not to play Danns, that doesn't mean it is for footballing reasons, but I have not seen one shred of evidence to suggest otherwise.
davieG Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Depends what you define as a bust up, I'm sure Danns and a few others were told in a strong manner that their performance against Burton and others weren't good enough and I'm equally sure there's been some strong words used at half-time in a few of the games this season, would we expect anything less, judging by the posts on this forum no! I guess it then depends on how players respond to such criticism if they take it on the chin (figuratively speaking) and say yes boss I'll try harder then things are more likely to improve but if they get the hump then they've only themselves to blame. There's no denying that Pearson is quite able and willing to put his arm around the shoulder of a player and talk quietly and encouragingly to them as we've seen it many times, Gradel in particular used to get regular hugs. I can only think therefore on the visible evidence that if there has been a bust up/disagreement then it's more likely to be down to the player in question getting the hump and going off in a strop.
Matt Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Depends what you define as a bust up, I'm sure Danns and a few others were told in a strong manner that their performance against Burton and others weren't good enough and I'm equally sure there's been some strong words used at half-time in a few of the games this season, would we expect anything less, judging by the posts on this forum no! I guess it then depends on how players respond to such criticism if they take it on the chin (figuratively speaking) and say yes boss I'll try harder then things are more likely to improve but if they get the hump then they've only themselves to blame. There's no denying that Pearson is quite able and willing to put his arm around the shoulder of a player and talk quietly and encouragingly to them as we've seen it many times, Gradel in particular used to get regular hugs. I can only think therefore on the visible evidence that if there has been a bust up/disagreement then it's more likely to be down to the player in question getting the hump and going off in a strop. And if any player that played in the Burton game or after a telling off at half time of a few games this season got the arse, I fully support Pearson for dropping them and dropping them to train with the reserves (if true). If anything if they can't accept and admit their poor performances/critisism they are arguably bringing the reserves players down and arguably shouldn't even be training at that level.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Deja Moo: The feeling that I've heard this bull before.
ScouseFox Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Ian Stringer â€@StringerSport To confirm, it's my understanding that Neil Danns and Jermaine Beckford have been training with the #lcfc U21s
Fox92 Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I'm loving NP's management technique - accept my decisions or I'll kick your ****ing head off. I also like it. He is manager after all.
DeclanMC Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Ian Stringer â€@StringerSport To confirm, it's my understanding that Neil Danns and Jermaine Beckford have been training with the #lcfc U21s That is shameful treatment. Unless there has been a 'bust-up' or some other indiscretion by the players, no-one should be made to train with the juniors.
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Ian Stringer â€@StringerSport To confirm, it's my understanding that Neil Danns and Jermaine Beckford have been training with the #lcfc U21s Seen as Stringer has now confirmed, It shows something has gone on and will bits will come out soon. I've got no chip on my shoulder, Just passing on the information I was told that is all.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 As long as Leicester City keep playing like they did yesterday I don't really give a Fook whether Danns has had a bust up with Pearson. Someone mentioned earlier that Danns is 'tweeting' less recently... Thank Fook for that too. Pearson stated on radio Leicester after yesterday's game that those players he wasn't playing needed to prove themselves on the training ground. Well said Nigel. No one is bigger than the club or the manager IMO. If we continue to get results, that's all I'm bothered about.
Babylon Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 Seen as Stringer has now confirmed, It shows something has gone on and will bits will come out soon. I've got no chip on my shoulder, Just passing on the information I was told that is all. Mills trained with u21's also and said there had been NO bust up. It doesn't matter, if he doesn't want these players then it's up to him whether he gets rid or not. If dumping them with the kids forces through moves and saves the club money so be it. I don't care how upset the players get.
shade Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I like Pearson as our manager, but he's obviously a bit dificult as a person. bristly, oppositional, always looking to take offence and dictatorial.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 I like Pearson as our manager, but he's obviously a bit dificult as a person. bristly, oppositional, always looking to take offence and dictatorial. As I said above... If we continue to get results, I care not a jot about his supposed 'personality'.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 24 September 2012 Posted 24 September 2012 As I said above... If we continue to get results, I care not a jot about his supposed 'personality'. Touche
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