Waghorn

[MattyFromLE]

I like the fact that he trys quite hard in games, but think Waghorn is not good enough for this level. His level is about divison one or two imo. His finishing for a striker is woeful. Time to play Futacs now, waghorn has had alot of chances to score goals and he is not delivering the goals we need. If we rely on nugent to get us up i think we will fall short.

. Futacs is no better, or worse than Waghorn. We need another striker. I think Waggy is a decent player - just needs a good strike partner. It was working with Nugent.

[kingfox]

. Futacs is no better, or worse than Waghorn. We need another striker. I think Waggy is a decent player - just needs a good strike partner. It was working with Nugent.

How do you know Futacs is no better, chances he has had on goal have basically resulted in two goals in the cup and against Ipswich.

But kind of agree on the Waghorn partnership with Nuge, and since he got injured, Waghorn is misfiring again.

[Ambitous]

I would happily do a straight swap for Theo Robinson... he DOES score more goals, that's all that matters... right

[Manwell Pablo]

So Zaha is on 4 and is in with a chance of 15, but Vardy is on 3 and an utterly hopeless cause. I don't quite get that.

Please look at the title of the thread you are posting in. It is not Jamie Vardy is it.

Although that is a ridiculous comment, I take it you have seen the two players play football? There is quite a difference.

[coatsworthstache]

Although that is a ridiculous comment, I take it you have seen the two players play football? There is quite a difference.

Absolutely right. Don't just throw a fairly meaningless stat at people and expect people to ignore what they've seen with their own eyes.

[_Fatboyslow_]

How do you know Futacs is no better,

Because in NFP we believe

[Manwell Pablo]

There are 11 players on the pitch, we need to score from all over. These are the top scoring strikers for the top two. Our strikers are actually fairly comparable to most teams with one main striker and one support.

Cardiff

Helguson 7 goals

Mason 3 goals

Palace

Murray 15

Zaha 4

Leicester

Nugent 9 goals

Vardy 3 goals

Again for clarity, I would love another great striker. But it's not the hopeless cause some would have us out to be without one.

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

[Soar Fox]

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

Superb post

[5waller5]

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Danno]

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

Were these strikers out injured like Vardy was?

[Manwell Pablo]

Were these strikers out injured like Vardy was?

Some have played more, some have played roughly the same, some have played less, there are loads of strikers mentioned there. Vardy should be given more time to hopefully adapt anyway and to be quite frank, if Waghorn was to say then I wouldn't be too bothered. It's the fact that at the minute something happens to Nugent, We're stuffed, We've got a default strike force with four goals between them there needs to be another option.

I don't even know why people are arguing with me most end their arguements with "but I wouldn't be upset if we signed another good striker" so they clearly know there is a problem.

[Ric Flair]

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

We do need another striker to score more regularly but I think you're going a bit over the top here. We've got the best goal difference in the league and we've scored a decent amount of goals but there a lot of room for improvement. This is a Pearson type team now, very tight at the back who do very well at home, but not so well away from home. We won't be scoring 80+ goals this season but it should be enough to get us in the top 6. I want him to rectify our reliability in front of goal because this team does have more creativity than any of our teams in the last few seasons, it's just lacking a finisher like Yakubu. Zaha for all the clamour has only 1 more goal than Knockaert and about the same assists.

[Happy Fox]

If we are able to bring in a Steve Morison type player we will get automatic promotion I am absolutely certain of that. Finishing in the playoffs would be a travesty as the quality of our competitors isn't that great well not compared to previous seasons at this level.

[Ric Flair]

We do need another striker to score more regularly but I think you're going a bit over the top here. We've got the best goal difference in the league and we've scored a decent amount of goals but there a lot of room for improvement. This is a Pearson type team now, very tight at the back who do very well at home, but not so well away from home. We won't be scoring 80+ goals this season but it should be enough to get us in the top 6. I want him to rectify our reliability in front of goal because this team does have more creativity than any of our teams in the last few seasons, it's just lacking a finisher like Yakubu. Zaha for all the clamour has only 1 more goal than Knockaert and about the same assists.

Actually scrap what i've said here, I was being too kind. Pearson does need to strengthen our forward line otherwise we'll pay for it.

[5waller5]

Actually scrap what i've said here, I was being too kind. Pearson does need to strengthen our forward line otherwise we'll pay for it.

Love it!

[Manwell Pablo]

We do need another striker to score more regularly but I think you're going a bit over the top here. We've got the best goal difference in the league and we've scored a decent amount of goals but there a lot of room for improvement. This is a Pearson type team now, very tight at the back who do very well at home, but not so well away from home. We won't be scoring 80+ goals this season but it should be enough to get us in the top 6. I want him to rectify our reliability in front of goal because this team does have more creativity than any of our teams in the last few seasons, it's just lacking a finisher like Yakubu. Zaha for all the clamour has only 1 more goal than Knockaert and about the same assists.

Here it is agian, "I know we need another striker but..." ,

I am not going to far, are you enthused about a Vardy Waghorn paternership on Saturday? I am not, although hopefully as he's done alright against them in the past and has been linked with them before Waghorn might be able to have a decent day in front of goal for once.

If you watch Zaha play he is capable of terrorising defences, why do you think Glenn Murray has scored 15 goals, he isn't technically in the same league as a lot of strikers in this league I'd say, every team that plays Crystal Palace tries to triple mark Wilfred Zaha, Where as Waghorn is sometimes capable of marking himself out of a game.

EDIT: Sorry missed your miraculous U Turn .

[Ric Flair]

Here it is agian, "I know we need another striker but..." ,

I am not going to far, are you enthused about a Vardy Waghorn paternership on Saturday? I am not, although hopefully as he's done alright against them in the past and has been linked with them before Waghorn might be able to have a decent day in front of goal for once.

If you watch Zaha play he is capable of terrorising defences, why do you think Glenn Murray has scored 15 goals, he isn't technically in the same league as a lot of strikers in this league I'd say, every team that plays Crystal Palace tries to triple mark Wilfred Zaha, Where as Waghorn is sometimes capable of marking himself out of a game.

EDIT: Sorry missed your miraculous U Turn .

Hahahahaaa I re-read your post again after my post and realised you weren't saying what I thought you'd said. Personally I think Waghorn is the pits, likewise Vardy. They might get better but we can't afford to wait and see. We need promotion this season so get a fookin striker in who can score, it's not hard!

I thought what you were alluding to was we weren't scoring enough goals this season, but when you look at the for and against we're actually doing well. But I don't trust this team without Nugent in it and that's not good enough for a team who wants to go up.

I've watched Palace and yes, you're right that Murray has buried a lot of goals because of the Zaha Factor but I don't think he's as good as everyone makes out. His goals and assists ratio isn't that good, I actually prefer Tom Ince myself.

[Manwell Pablo]

Hahahahaaa I re-read your post again after my post and realised you weren't saying what I thought you'd said. Personally I think Waghorn is the pits, likewise Vardy. They might get better but we can't afford to wait and see. We need promotion this season so get a fookin striker in who can score, it's not hard!

I thought what you were alluding to was we weren't scoring enough goals this season, but when you look at the for and against we're actually doing well. But I don't trust this team without Nugent in it and that's not good enough for a team who wants to go up.

I've watched Palace and yes, you're right that Murray has buried a lot of goals because of the Zaha Factor but I don't think he's as good as everyone makes out. His goals and assists ratio isn't that good, I actually prefer Tom Ince myself.

Oh this linked with Arsenal and Holloway claiming he's the best player since Pele business is well over the top but you can see he's Premeir League quality in the waiting, although I'd say the same of Ince.

We have goals being chipped in from midfield thankfully, it's just having that extra player is the difference between play offs and automatic for me.

[yorkie1999]

If we are able to bring in a Steve Morison type player we will get automatic promotion I am absolutely certain of that. Finishing in the playoffs would be a travesty as the quality of our competitors isn't that great well not compared to previous seasons at this level.

That's why we're forth this year instead of 10th

[Mark_w]

That's why we're forth this year instead of 10th

[5waller5]

That's why we're forth this year instead of 10th

That's interesting - so you see our improved league position to be down to poorer quality opposition?? I'm surprised!!

[yorkie1999]

That's interesting - so you see our improved league position to be down to poorer quality opposition?? I'm surprised!!

I'll tell you tomorrow night.

[Guest Col city fan]

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

Couldn't agree more...

Another good MP post.

[Babylon]

Please look at the title of the thread you are posting in. It is not Jamie Vardy is it.

Although that is a ridiculous comment, I take it you have seen the two players play football? There is quite a difference.

Firstly Vardy is our second top scorer, as Zaha is for Palace, that's why he is being used as a comparison.

Secondly, this is not about all round game it's about goals scored. The people moaning about him and Waghorn keep telling us that. Zaha scored 6 last year and only has 4 this year, so he's no more on coarse for 15 goals than Vardy is.

[Babylon]

They aren't comparable. At all, you are fortunate Cardiff have somehow managed to find their way to the top of the league again otherwise your arguement would have no weight at all. I don't know why you've posted Palace's up there, the partnership of Murray and Zaha have got 7 more goals than Nugent and Vardy, I wouldn't be complaining they had 19 between and we'd more than likely be top now if that was the case. Especially if Vardy or Waghorn were capable of playing like Zaha.

So aside from Cardiff lets have a look at the other teams in the top half, well as I have said. Borough have 2 or 3 scoring 5-6 goals and they are in the market for a striker as they see it as an area of weakness. Millwall - Wood, Henderson, Keogh. Hull. Hull Aloko (8) Simpson (5) and had Matty Fryatt not got injured we all know he can contribute double figures if he plays.

Even Brighton, another club how have been quite public about their lack of striking options to the point were Poyet has actually threatend his strikers with being replaced, have Ashley Barnes and Craig Mikel Smith who have scored marginally more goals than Vardy and Nugent.

What have we got below them, Watford, Deeny (6), Vydra (7) Forest Whilst hardly prolific all three of them have scored more than Vardy. Blackburn have got tons of options even with Best injured and Rhodes still bedding in.

Our striking options are among the worst in the top half, above you can see teams managing injuries with decent replacements. Our main striker gets injured, we are in serious Sh1t.

I have no issue with Vardy remaining at the club given time he could well come good it's a massive step up, however Waghorn in the mean time can link up and hassel people till the cows come, a striker needs to score at least some goals.

But Cardiff are top and we are 4th, so actually the argument does have some weight doesn't.