Iwan is a Welshman Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Points for second place in last ten years: 11/12 Southampton 88 10/11 Norwich City 84 09/10 WBA 91 08/09 Birmingham 83 07/08 Stoke 79 06/07 Birmingham 86 05/06 Sheff Utd 90 04/05 Wigan 87 03/04 WBA 86 02/03 LCFC 92 Average: 86.6.
Aus Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Be interesting to see the average points for 3rd place as we only need 1 point more then they get, looking at this however 13 wins from 18 should see us in the Premier League.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Points for second place in last ten years: 11/12 Southampton 88 10/11 Norwich City 84 09/10 WBA 91 08/09 Birmingham 83 07/08 Stoke 79 06/07 Birmingham 86 05/06 Sheff Utd 90 04/05 Wigan 87 03/04 WBA 86 02/03 LCFC 92 Average: 86.6. I was just about to tell you to post this on here. As I said in my text to you, those totals are extrememly high with the exception of stoke. 13 more wins from 18 games is a MASSIVE ask Be interesting to see the average points for 3rd place as we only need 1 point more then they get, looking at this however 13 wins from 18 should see us in the Premier League. Very true. Get to work Joe...
Happy Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 92 points should see us win the title 86 should see us gain automatic promotion So if we can average 2 points a game till the end of the season that should do us.
AdamN Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 13 more wins from 18 games is a MASSIVE ask The teams below us have an even more massive ask
Happy Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 The average points required for 3rd from the last 10 seasons is 81 points (3sf)
StanSP Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 36 more points from 18 games to get to average. 12 wins out of 18. 11 wins, 3 draws 10 wins, 6 draws. 9 wins, 9 draws Our next 12 games: Wolves (H) Peterborough (A) Cardiff (A) Blackburn (H) Charlton (H) Blackpool (A) Ipswich (A) Leeds (H) Sheff Weds (H) Derby (A) Millwall (H) Barnsley (A) What do people think will be most realistic out of those next 12 matches? Note: I do know it's going quite far in to the season. I personally just like taking it 1 game at a time cos that's what the next focus should be on. We shouldn't get 2 carried away. It's only January and a lot of stuff can change between now and end of the month let alone up until Easter!
cc_star Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Be interesting to see the average points for 3rd place as we only need 1 point more then they get, looking at this however 13 wins from 18 should see us in the Premier League. Or with goal difference, the same points as 3rd gets
Happy Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 36 more points from 18 games to get to average. 12 wins out of 18. 11 wins, 3 draws 10 wins, 6 draws. 9 wins, 9 draws 8 wins, 12 draws. Our next 10 games: Wolves (H) - 3 points Peterborough (A) - 1 point Cardiff (A) - 0 points Blackburn (H) - 3 points Charlton (H) - 3 points Blackpool (A) - 3 points Ipswich (A) - 1 point Leeds (H) - 3 points Sheff Weds (H) - 3 points Derby (A) - 3 points Millwall (H) - 1 point Barnsley (A) - 0 points What do people think will be most realistic out of those next 12 matches? Note: I do know it's going quite far in to the season. I personally just like taking it 1 game at a time cos that's what the next focus should be on. We shouldn't get 2 carried away. It's only January and a lot of stuff can change between now and end of the month let alone up until Easter!
The Year Of The Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Right, here are the 3rd place finishers over the last 10 seasons, their points tally and difference behind 2nd place in brackets 11/12 West Ham 86 Pts (2 pts) 10/11 Swansea 80 Pts (4 pts) 09/10 Forest 79 Pts (12 pts) 08/09 Sheff Utd 80 Pts (3 pts) 07/08 Hull 75 Pts (4 pts) 06/07 Derby 84 Pts (2 pts) 05/06 Watford 81 Pts (9 pts) 04/05 Ipswich 85 Pts (2 pts) 03/04 Sunderland 79 Pts (7 pts) 02/03 Sheffield United 80 Pts (12 pts) Average number of points for 3rd place is 80.9 Average number of points 3rd place has finished behind 2nd place is 5.7
LukeyZade Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 this year theres so many teams who have been 1st and 2nd, cardiff have come good and starting to run away a little, i cant see anyone anyone else taking 2nd to win 12 0f 18 you say? big ask, so far only cardiff acheived that 1st half of season?. if we do win that many and stil dont come 2nd then well what can i say
whoareyaaa Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 I think we would need around 79-81 to gain 2nd spot, its a tighter league this year as there is no two teams running away with it, so I think less points will be needed.
steveherbe Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Prior to reading this topic I had a quick add-up of the points I think we could reasonably expect. Allowing for the odd 'blip', I made it 31 more, giving us a total of 81 - which sadly may not be enough. Then again, I'm a miserable git!!
Amin Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 I was just looking up the last ten seasons on Wikipedia and I came across something weird on the page for the 2006-07 season:
Iwan is a Welshman Posted 20 January 2013 Author Posted 20 January 2013 Wow, this has spiralled out of control. After our previous five performances I think we can beat anyone. Just hope key players stay fit.
Happy Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Has goal difference made a significant difference between 2nd and 3rd? if it does we are in a good position just need to keep on hammering the crap teams at home i.e Wolves.
darko2k7 Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 36 more points from 18 games to get to average. 12 wins out of 18. 11 wins, 3 draws 10 wins, 6 draws. 9 wins, 9 draws 8 wins, 12 draws. Our next 10 games: Wolves (H) - 3 pts Peterborough (A) - 3 pts Cardiff (A) - 1 pts Blackburn (H) - 1 pts Charlton (H) - 3 pts Blackpool (A) - 0 points Ipswich (A) - 3 pts Leeds (H) - 3 pts Sheff Weds (H) - 3 pts Derby (A) - 3 pts Millwall (H) - 3 pts Barnsley (A) - 3 pts = 29 pts 2.4 pts per game. Will give us 79 pts with 6 games remaining . Not to unrealistic imo What do people think will be most realistic out of those next 12 matches? Note: I do know it's going quite far in to the season. I personally just like taking it 1 game at a time cos that's what the next focus should be on. We shouldn't get 2 carried away. It's only January and a lot of stuff can change between now and end of the month let alone up until Easter!
Mark_w Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 I was just looking up the last ten seasons on Wikipedia and I came across something weird on the page for the 2006-07 season: Yeah, how the **** did Howard manage that!
Haydos Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 The league is much tighter this year, if things continue how they are I wouldn't be surprised if it only took 80 points to finish 2nd.
deanolegend1989 Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 7 out the last 10 seasons 82 points would be above 2nd(81 would be good enough with out goal difference). Its a tight league this year so I can see it carrying on in that mould. IMO between 80-84 is the range. If we get 84 points or more I think we'll do it. Down to 80 would give us a fair chance. 18 games and we could only need to win 9 in my opinion. This would make 77 and as long as we get 4 or 5 draws with that it would be enough. 10 wins would almost certainly get us up.
ealingfox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 36 more points from 18 games to get to average. 12 wins out of 18. 11 wins, 3 draws 10 wins, 6 draws. 9 wins, 9 draws 8 wins, 12 draws. Our next 10 games: Wolves (H) Peterborough (A) Cardiff (A) Blackburn (H) Charlton (H) Blackpool (A) Ipswich (A) Leeds (H) Sheff Weds (H) Derby (A) Millwall (H) Barnsley (A) How did we manage to blag 2 extra games in this scenario, cos we should do that anyway just to be safe.
deanolegend1989 Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Wolves (H) - 3 points. Peterborough (A) - 3 points. Cardiff (A) - 0 points. Blackburn (H) - 3 points. Charlton (H) - 1 point. (they are good away) Blackpool (A) - 1 point. Ipswich (A) - 3 points. Leeds (H) - 0 points. Sheff Weds (H) - 3 points. Derby (A) - 1 point. Millwall (H) - 3 points. Barnsley (A) - 3 points.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 We need 85/86 i think to make sure. Confident we'll do it, win the next three games and we'll start to move away
ealingfox Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 Btw that's our next 12 games not 10. I reckon: Wolves (H) - W Peterborough (A) - W Cardiff (A) - L Blackburn (H) - W Charlton (H) - W Blackpool (A) - D Ipswich (A) - L Leeds (H) - D Sheff Weds (H) - W Derby (A) - W Millwall (H) - W Barnsley (A) - W 76 points with 6 games left would be an incredibly healthy position so maybe thats a bit optimistic...
Munshi Posted 20 January 2013 Posted 20 January 2013 36 more points from 18 games to get to average. 12 wins out of 18. 11 wins, 3 draws 10 wins, 6 draws. 9 wins, 9 draws 8 wins, 12 draws. Our next 10 games: Wolves (H) Peterborough (A) Cardiff (A) Blackburn (H) Charlton (H) Blackpool (A) Ipswich (A) Leeds (H) Sheff Weds (H) Derby (A) Millwall (H) Barnsley (A) What do people think will be most realistic out of those next 12 matches? Note: I do know it's going quite far in to the season. I personally just like taking it 1 game at a time cos that's what the next focus should be on. We shouldn't get 2 carried away. It's only January and a lot of stuff can change between now and end of the month let alone up until Easter! Im not being silly or anything but I honestly think we can win every game from there except cardiff where a draw would be a great result. Then again, We are Leicester.
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