Here's What I Heard

[MC Prussian]

The complete mess is the FFP and the overpaid players that don't fit with a Div 2 team

 

Teams play for one of two things in this division - survival if they are a Yeovil, Peterborough Barnsley etc or promotion. One assumes that we expect more than survival so the barometer of success for us rests with promotion or not - the answer is not in four attempts = failure 

I want our club and our owners spend within their means and put expenses and revenues in balance.

The full set of FFP rules won't apply until 2015, so we're still a little bit safe. But again, I'd rather have the owners act now and start off with a clean sheet than later.

I do hope they've learnt from their previous mistakes and that we won't splash out the cash as hastily again like we did under Eriksson.

 

Besides, there's not just the race for promotion or the race against relegation, there are many teams in this division who can't afford the former and which are too good for the latter.

We've already said that back-to-back promotions à la Southampton are extremely rare and prove to be the exception to the rule.

As to the amounts it takes to get promoted, may I refer you to Cardiff? It took them 10 years after getting back to this level before being automatically promoted.

[Strokes]

I want our club and our owners spend within their means and put expenses and revenues in balance.

The full set of FFP rules won't apply until 2015, so we're still a little bit safe. But again, I'd rather have the owners act now and start off with a clean sheet than later.

I do hope they've learnt from their previous mistakes and that we won't splash out the cash as hastily again like we did under Eriksson.

Besides, there's not just the race for promotion or the race against relegation, there are many teams in this division who can't afford the former and which are too good for the latter.

We've already said that back-to-back promotions à la Southampton are extremely rare and prove to be the exception to the rule.

As to the amounts it takes to get promoted, may I refer you to Cardiff? It took them 10 years after getting back to this level before being automatically promoted.

Is be suprised if this ffp thing actually happens tbh, its restriction of trade. It's anti capitalism!

[flowwolf]

lol

 

Clough is better than Pearson.

 

Go ahead have a laugh them ask your self if Clough had as bad a run as our last eighteen games ? not funny now is it ?

[Corky]

Go ahead have a laugh them ask your self if Clough had as bad a run as our last eighteen games ? not funny now is it ?

 

 

Oh, and by the way, Clough had a run in 2010/11 of 4 wins in 28 games.

 

Rest is irrelevant, as we obviously judging how good a manager is by how bad their worst run is.

[flowwolf]

I want our club and our owners spend within their means and put expenses and revenues in balance.

The full set of FFP rules won't apply until 2015, so we're still a little bit safe. But again, I'd rather have the owners act now and start off with a clean sheet than later.

I do hope they've learnt from their previous mistakes and that we won't splash out the cash as hastily again like we did under Eriksson.

 

Besides, there's not just the race for promotion or the race against relegation, there are many teams in this division who can't afford the former and which are too good for the latter.

We've already said that back-to-back promotions à la Southampton are extremely rare and prove to be the exception to the rule.

As to the amounts it takes to get promoted, may I refer you to Cardiff? It took them 10 years after getting back to this level before being automatically promoted.

 

 

Great so you have set you sights on a ten year plan for promotion

[Mark_w]

You're only as good as your last 18 games, everyone knows that. Only a fool would judge a manager on his performance over the course of a season.

[flowwolf]

Yes, it is.

 

Pearson's finishes in charge of us- 1st, 5th, 9th and 6th.

 

Clough's at Derby- 14th, 19th, 12th and 10th.

 

Pearson's not perfect, Clough is not better.

 

 

Sorry but you did not answer the question. Clough has not had millions to waste like Pearson and whether we like it or not we are still in the same division as Derby and will remain so as long as Pearson is in charge .

[Corky]

 

 

Sorry but you did not answer the question. Clough has not had millions to waste like Pearson and whether we like it or not we are still in the same division as Derby and will remain so as long as Pearson is in charge .

 

I have done.

[flowwolf]

You're only as good as your last 18 games, everyone knows that. Only a fool would judge a manager on his performance over the course of a season.

 

Well the course of the season still saw us only just scrape in to the playoffs despite massive cash injections compared to other clubs and it also saw us revert to hoofball in a desperate effort to save a crumbling season. Now that's what I call a bad performance of a season.

[flowwolf]

I have done.

 

No you said that Pearson is a better manager than Clough but then did not say why you think that ?

[ealingfox]

Obvious troll is obvious. Stop feeding it.

[Corky]

No you inferred that Pearson is a better manager than Clough but then did not say why you think that ?

 

Because he leads teams to higher finishes, he plays better football (most of the time), wins more games. Yeah he has more money to spend but plenty of clubs have small budgets and do very well.

 

Clough is a mid-table manager, Pearson is a top-six to lower top half manager. I can see the arguments for and against Pearson staying, I want the next bloke to be better and I don't see Nigel Clough taking us to new heights.

[MC Prussian]

Well the course of the season still saw us only just scrape in to the playoffs despite massive cash injections compared to other clubs and it also saw us revert to hoofball in a desperate effort to save a crumbling season. Now that's what I call a bad performance of a season.

I don't know where you take those "massive cash injections" from, but we spent less than a lot of other teams this season.

 

And how you can put "reverting to hoofball" and "to save a crumbling season" in the same sentence, I'll never know. The two are actually polar opposites.

I don't know how you come to your conclusions, but as long as they make sense to you, that's ok. I find your logic mildly amusing.

 

Then again, you're just on the wind-up again with your incoherent ramblings.

 

P.S.: What is a "bad performance of a season"? Never heard that expression or combination of words before - is it universal or flowwolf-only?

[Brauny Fox]

I don't know where you take those "massive cash injections" from, but we spent less than a lot of other teams this season.

 

And how you can put "reverting to hoofball" and "to save a crumbling season" in the same sentence, I'll never know. The two are actually polar opposites.

I don't know how you come to your conclusions, but as long as they make sense to you, that's ok. I find your logic mildly amusing.

 

Then again, you're just on the wind-up again with your incoherent ramblings.

 

P.S.: What is a "bad performance of a season"? Never heard that expression or combination of words before - is it universal or flowwolf-only?

 

To be fair, flowwolf is clearly a man with a depth of footballing knowledge that knows no boundaries. He has most certainly managed to convince us all that Pearson is the absolute reason that Leicester City FC didn't gain promotion this season. His well thought and considered point of views are a breath of fresh air. His comparison between Clough and Pearson was spot on.

 

 

Now you have read this flowwolf, please bugger off and leave the rest of us mentally sane people to it. Cheers then! Bye Bye now.

[flowwolf]

Because he leads teams to higher finishes, he plays better football (most of the time), wins more games. Yeah he has more money to spend but plenty of clubs have small budgets and do very well.

 

Clough is a mid-table manager, Pearson is a top-six to lower top half manager. I can see the arguments for and against Pearson staying, I want the next bloke to be better and I don't see Nigel Clough taking us to new heights.

 

 

Ok see what you mean in that context

[flowwolf]

Is it me or does flowwolf and DANGEROUS TIGER seem to be posting at certain times and trolling certain threads together?

 

Never understood how I fit into the trolling bracket. I agree that many of my opinions go against the grain on here but they are my genuine opinions and not meant for trolling .

[Finnegan]

You're only as good as your last 18 games, everyone knows that. Only a fool would judge a manager on his performance over the course of a season.

Hmmm.

Seenitall isn't worth acknowledging, he's an idiot, but you can't really dismiss our decline and consider it fine because we finished in the play-offs.

The slump represents the coaching staff's inability to turn around poor form and low confidence in the squad. It also showed us that we've a manager who will panic and revert to ineffective tactics he considereds "safer" when the going gets tough, despite what was previously successful.

I like Pearson as a person, I like his tough response to the media and his no-nonsense reputation. I like that he's brought in the likes of Knockaert, De Laet and James and I love the football we played until February.

But I am hugely concerned we have a manager who lacks the charisma and people skills to effectively man-manage players who need a little extra.

I want to be proven wrong next year and I hope what we really struggled with was too small a squad. Maybe. But blindly defending the management because some are being OVERLY critical is just as daft.

[Mark_w]

Hmmm.

Seenitall isn't worth acknowledging, he's an idiot, but you can't really dismiss our decline and consider it fine because we finished in the play-offs.

The slump represents the coaching staff's inability to turn around poor form and low confidence in the squad. It also showed us that we've a manager who will panic and revert to ineffective tactics he considereds "safer" when the going gets tough, despite what was previously successful.

I like Pearson as a person, I like his tough response to the media and his no-nonsense reputation. I like that he's brought in the likes of Knockaert, De Laet and James and I love the football we played until February.

But I am hugely concerned we have a manager who lacks the charisma and people skills to effectively man-manage players who need a little extra.

I want to be proven wrong next year and I hope what we really struggled with was too small a squad. Maybe. But blindly defending the management because some are being OVERLY critical is just as daft.

 

I'm not dismissing it, it was part of the season.

 

I don't think it's fair to say that based on this one poor run we have a manager who is incapable of turning around a bad run of results, we had plenty of poor runs during his first spell in charge (the four losses towards the end of the season springs to mind) and he was able to turn those around. Sure this time he didn't and that's a concern, of course it indicates that something is wrong, but when the manager has a relatively good track record of turning around a poor run of results in the past, surely that's an indication that it's an issue with the current squad that needs to be rectified in the summer rather than solely the manager (although obviously he has to take some responsibility, he constructed the side).

 

I don't know how you can say he lacks the charisma and people skills to effectively man-manage certain players, one would assume that you don't work behind the scenes at the club? I'd suggest that when he can get the squad of players he did to the Championship Play-Offs (during his first reign) that those must be qualities he possesses.

 

As you said the football up until February was great, during his previous years at the club Pearson has done a good job. We did get a Play-Off place which is what most of us had hoped for at the start of the season so all in all he did do a good job. Something went wrong in the last few months of the season, but Pearson deserves a chance to rectify those issues, which based on the desire shown by the players in the last three games of the season, is something he's already started to do.

[sov968-Foreverblue]

Now before all the Pearson lover's jump down my throat........ I would just like to clarify 'I am not in the know'. However there are some serious issues behind the scenes. I do not rate Pearson as a manager or a motivator. I do not believe he can manage or get the best out of certain individuals. It would appear he is unable to manage the ' bigger named players'. I genuinely believe he is tactically inept. I have never forgiven him for the first leg play off against Cardiff at home when he set up negative and continued with negativity throughout the game. He has fell out with Stringer..... Stringer had the audacity to ask Mr Personality after the league game against Watford if he felt his job was safe. If I had failed to perform in my role at work for 3 months then I would expect my ability and motivation to be questioned... Yes Stringer can be irritating at times but it is his job to ask awkward questions, especially when they are relevant at the time. Anyway to my point. A friend of a friend is engaged to an ex Leicester player and he has heard that our inspirational leader is a condemned man. There was a press conference called last Friday but for some unknown reason it was cancelled at the last minute. I really wish someone at the club would come out and state what their plans are.My genuine belief is that the board no longer believe in Pearson but are unable to find a suitable replacement. I won't go down the line of suggesting suitable replacements. It has been done to death. However I would prefer my 12 year old son to manage our great club...... He would do a better job than Mr Personality. Here's hoping the board find some one soon otherwise I can see no reason to get excited about the forthcoming season...............

[tomtom]

Never understood how I fit into the trolling bracket. I agree that many of my opinions go against the grain on here but they are my genuine opinions and not meant for trolling .

It's certainly how your constant Pearson bashing comes across to me, you even couldn't help yourself having a pop in the thread where the bloke was on about his son supporting city

By all means have a different opinion to others but think about how you put that across and try to take a more rounded view on things.

[LcFc_Smiv]

Now before all the Pearson lover's jump down my throat........ I would just like to clarify 'I am not in the know'. However there are some serious issues behind the scenes. I do not rate Pearson as a manager or a motivator. I do not believe he can manage or get the best out of certain individuals. It would appear he is unable to manage the ' bigger named players'. I genuinely believe he is tactically inept. I have never forgiven him for the first leg play off against Cardiff at home when he set up negative and continued with negativity throughout the game. He has fell out with Stringer..... Stringer had the audacity to ask Mr Personality after the league game against Watford if he felt his job was safe. If I had failed to perform in my role at work for 3 months then I would expect my ability and motivation to be questioned... Yes Stringer can be irritating at times but it is his job to ask awkward questions, especially when they are relevant at the time. Anyway to my point. A friend of a friend is engaged to an ex Leicester player and he has heard that our inspirational leader is a condemned man. There was a press conference called last Friday but for some unknown reason it was cancelled at the last minute. I really wish someone at the club would come out and state what their plans are.My genuine belief is that the board no longer believe in Pearson but are unable to find a suitable replacement. I won't go down the line of suggesting suitable replacements. It has been done to death. However I would prefer my 12 year old son to manage our great club...... He would do a better job than Mr Personality. Here's hoping the board find some one soon otherwise I can see no reason to get excited about the forthcoming season...............

 

Why would we jump down yours when we can jump Nige's....If you get what I mean 

 

 

On a serious note, I don't take you very seriously.

[ealingfox]

Now before all the Pearson lover's jump down my throat........ I would just like to clarify 'I am not in the know'. However there are some serious issues behind the scenes. I do not rate Pearson as a manager or a motivator. I do not believe he can manage or get the best out of certain individuals. It would appear he is unable to manage the ' bigger named players'. I genuinely believe he is tactically inept. I have never forgiven him for the first leg play off against Cardiff at home when he set up negative and continued with negativity throughout the game. He has fell out with Stringer..... Stringer had the audacity to ask Mr Personality after the league game against Watford if he felt his job was safe. If I had failed to perform in my role at work for 3 months then I would expect my ability and motivation to be questioned... Yes Stringer can be irritating at times but it is his job to ask awkward questions, especially when they are relevant at the time. Anyway to my point. A friend of a friend is engaged to an ex Leicester player and he has heard that our inspirational leader is a condemned man. There was a press conference called last Friday but for some unknown reason it was cancelled at the last minute. I really wish someone at the club would come out and state what their plans are.My genuine belief is that the board no longer believe in Pearson but are unable to find a suitable replacement. I won't go down the line of suggesting suitable replacements. It has been done to death. However I would prefer my 12 year old son to manage our great club...... He would do a better job than Mr Personality. Here's hoping the board find some one soon otherwise I can see no reason to get excited about the forthcoming season...............

 

Glad I saw this bit first, saved me from reading the rest!

[indierich06]

A friend of a friend is engaged to an ex Leicester player and he has heard that our inspirational leader is a condemned man.

 

Which ex-Leicester player is engaged to a bloke?!

 

However I would prefer my 12 year old son to manage our great club...... He would do a better job than Mr Personality.

 

When you have to reasort to making stupid comments like this, rather than engaging in serious debate about the manager and the football club, it makes you look like an idiot and just shows you up as the typical, bitter anti-Pearson basher you undoubtedly are.

 

[Jace]

Now before all the Pearson lover's jump down my throat........ I would just like to clarify 'I am not in the know'. However there are some serious issues behind the scenes. I do not rate Pearson as a manager or a motivator. I do not believe he can manage or get the best out of certain individuals. It would appear he is unable to manage the ' bigger named players'. I genuinely believe he is tactically inept. I have never forgiven him for the first leg play off against Cardiff at home when he set up negative and continued with negativity throughout the game. He has fell out with Stringer..... Stringer had the audacity to ask Mr Personality after the league game against Watford if he felt his job was safe. If I had failed to perform in my role at work for 3 months then I would expect my ability and motivation to be questioned... Yes Stringer can be irritating at times but it is his job to ask awkward questions, especially when they are relevant at the time. Anyway to my point. A friend of a friend is engaged to an ex Leicester player and he has heard that our inspirational leader is a condemned man. There was a press conference called last Friday but for some unknown reason it was cancelled at the last minute. I really wish someone at the club would come out and state what their plans are.My genuine belief is that the board no longer believe in Pearson but are unable to find a suitable replacement. I won't go down the line of suggesting suitable replacements. It has been done to death. However I would prefer my 12 year old son to manage our great club...... He would do a better job than Mr Personality. Here's hoping the board find some one soon otherwise I can see no reason to get excited about the forthcoming season...............

 

Who is this ex Leicester player who is engaged to a man then?

[seenitall]

Hmmm.

Seenitall isn't worth acknowledging, he's an idiot, but you can't really dismiss our decline and consider it fine because we finished in the play-offs.

The slump represents the coaching staff's inability to turn around poor form and low confidence in the squad. It also showed us that we've a manager who will panic and revert to ineffective tactics he considereds "safer" when the going gets tough, despite what was previously successful.

I like Pearson as a person, I like his tough response to the media and his no-nonsense reputation. I like that he's brought in the likes of Knockaert, De Laet and James and I love the football we played until February.

But I am hugely concerned we have a manager who lacks the charisma and people skills to effectively man-manage players who need a little extra.

I want to be proven wrong next year and I hope what we really struggled with was too small a squad. Maybe. But blindly defending the management because some are being OVERLY critical is just as daft.

Yet you acknowledge me - now who's an idiot?

 

Then you agree with me???? Genius, but lay off the insults.