Woolwich

[whoareyaaa]

There is only one way this is going... terrible RIP to the man.

[cambridgefox]

Reported attacks on mosques in Braintree and Gillingham.

some people are so thick .

[anotherharboroughfox]

Breaking news: EDL marching angrily towards Brighton Pavilion 

[Kitchandro]

A christian doing that in a muslim country? Like the Crusades you mean? Religious war has been going on forever.

This was disgusting and the guys that did it (by the looks of the video) are completely unhinged but dont seem to follow the same logic as the jihad that we have come to know so why its being referred to as a terrorist action seems a bit strong and quite knee jerk.

From the news reports i've seen and the interviews with experts in the field of counter-terrorism, its quite clear that nobody knows anything about this and why it happened. Even the eye witnesses say that the guy was just spouting a load of nonsense. There seems to be a lot of mixed information, quotes and misquotes. This is a sensitive time and the last thing we need is the media stoking up a story when we dont know anything other than some scumbag has murdered someone else and made some bizare statement about our government not caring about us.

The whole thing is just disgusting but we have to remember that no matter how we feel about this, the way we respect human life no matter the human, is what makes us better. We lose that, we lose.

 

No what makes us human is the ability to understand what is fair and what isn't.

 

Not respecting the life of senseless murderers - fair.

Wanting someone to die because they are British and have a certain profession - not fair.

[stevelcfc]

Just Listened to that Interview, I feel Physically sick, I can't sympathise enough with the witness how hard must it be to see that, he'll be having nightmares for years. As for the victims family, I can't comprehend why some scum would do that. If more religious people do acts like this, racism will only increase, they are vile acts no 'god' ever teaches to do things like this, they are sick, twisted, vile creatures that hide behind the 'in the name of my religion'. 

[acooling08]

All those 2 men have done is brought violence and ill-feeling towards their own religion.

 

What good has Islam actually done for the world, ever? It just keeps their culture rooted in the middle ages.

 

Unfortunately Islam is on the increase, needs to be phased out in here for the good of the country.

[ADK]

I don't think there's alot the government can do about such low tech attacks.

 

I feel sorry for the victim and his family.

 

I can understand why groups like the EDL exist, it's the classic reactionary movement and people wanting to do something but ultimately of course it's not the answer.

 

I do think media handling could be different, the amount of coverage the killer received is likely to encourage further attacks although with the internet it would come out anyway.

[Libertine Dream]

All those 2 men have done is brought violence and ill-feeling towards their own religion.

 

What good has Islam actually done for the world, ever? It just keeps their culture rooted in the middle ages.

 

Unfortunately Islam is on the increase, needs to be phased out in here for the good of the country.

Why does Islam need to be phased out, if you've ever been to a Muslim country then you'd know it certainly doesn't.

Islam does not support these acts, in the same way the Bible doesn't support Breivik's actions in Norway

[Guesty]

I don't think there's alot the government can do about such low tech attacks.

 

I feel sorry for the victim and his family.

 

I can understand why groups like the EDL exist, it's the classic reactionary movement and people wanting to do something but ultimately of course it's not the answer.

 

I do think media handling could be different, the amount of coverage the killer received is likely to encourage further attacks although with the internet it would come out anyway.

 

Exactly this. I know they have a job, but with the attention they place on the killers it might only motivate some other clowns to be copycats. He wouldn't have posed in front of the cameras unless he was some attention-seeker. Now he's getting exactly what he wants.

[ADK]

Religion needs to be phased out full stop.

 

Along with better education worldwide.

[Bettsj2]

No what makes us human is the ability to understand what is fair and what isn't.

Not respecting the life of senseless murderers - fair.

Wanting someone to die because they are British and have a certain profession - not fair.

Didnt say it makes us human. I said it makes us better.

[Larry_LCFC]

[Harry - LCFC]

No there not as bad as each other you fool!! How many inocent people have the edl killed??

 

I agree but they're not far off. Sadly I think it quite possible that someone affiliated with the EDL would go out and murder a Muslim as a form of revenge.

 

Just because they aren't as bad does not mean they shouldn't be clamped down upon. Indeed they only make the situation worse in the Muslim community, if you go on twitter (not the best source of info I know) you will see how much the Muslim community hates the racism incited by these kind of people. It's not good.

 

If we stopped them from voicing such hatred we might see less tension between different cultures in the UK.

[Deucalion]

I think the media has responded to the fact that information and footage of this incident would emerge anyway through social media.  

 

With so many witnesses, truth and untruth would be out there anyway.

[Guest ttfn]

Tragic.

[leicsmac]

No what makes us human is the ability to understand what is fair and what isn't.

 

Not respecting the life of senseless murderers - fair.

Wanting someone to die because they are British and have a certain profession - not fair.

 

Fairness is an entirely subjective, arbitrary idea based on moral equivalence. Just because you think that certain things are fair or not fair, that doesn't mean everyone else will.

 

 

 

All those 2 men have done is brought violence and ill-feeling towards their own religion.

 

What good has Islam actually done for the world, ever? It just keeps their culture rooted in the middle ages.

 

Unfortunately Islam is on the increase, needs to be phased out in here for the good of the country.

 

How many times must it be said - this is a MINORITY of Muslims who have been brainwashed. Why does everyone else involved with the religion (who mostly keep to themselves and just want to go about their lives) need to suffer on account of a few lunatics? 

 

I don't like organised religion of any kind, but I believe most strongly in the freedom to practise it, if you wish to.

 

Edit: Unfortunately events like this are going to cause emotive responses not based on logic, and therefore cause demonisation and generalisations. Which is, of course, what the extremists want all along. What better way to bring the masses into the fold and cause conflict by attempting to tar the rest of their religion with the same brush as them?

[acooling08]

It's mind boggling how it took the police so long to get there and then when they did, they didn't just kill the cvnts.

 

The pain and terror that the man must have felt when being attacked by 2 crazed knife-wielding savages must be unimaginable, only a painful death is befitting for those 2 animals.

[Deucalion]

I agree but they're not far off. Sadly I think it quite possible that someone affiliated with the EDL would go out and murder a Muslim as a form of revenge.

 

Just because they aren't as bad does not mean they shouldn't be clamped down upon. Indeed they only make the situation worse in the Muslim community, if you go on twitter (not the best source of info I know) you will see how much the Muslim community hates the racism incited by these kind of people. It's not good.

 

If we stopped them from voicing such hatred we might see less tension between different cultures in the UK.

 

The new EDL balaclavas give them a distinctly paramilitary air.

 

With the swing to the right of the Tory Party and the rise of the EDL and UKIP, the country is moving ever closer to racial hatred and violence as the norm anyway.  So many people seem only too willing to jump on this odious bandwagon.

 

I despair of this as much as Islamic extremism.

[Merging Cultures]

They're African, or at least look it, most Africans are Muslim

Really? Have you ever visited 'Africa'?

Personally, I've lived in Tanzania (two years) and Liberia (1 year). I've worked in Burundi, Rwanda, DR Congo, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Ghana, South Sudan, Kenya and Malawi. Probably forgetting some short term assignments too. Also, at the moment my wife and I are preparing to move to Lesotho.

Some people are Muslims, some are Christian, some follow traditional religions, and others dont follow any.

Now, unless you have visited the whole continent of Africa and know something I dont, I'll just call u a tit and be done with it.

[leicsmac]

The new EDL balaclavas give them a distinctly paramilitary air.

 

With the swing to the right of the Tory Party and the rise of the EDL and UKIP, the country is moving ever closer to racial hatred and violence as the norm anyway.  So many people seem only too willing to jump on this odious bandwagon.

 

I despair of this as much as Islamic extremism.

 

I worry that there are those in power who might use the extremism (if it were to escalate) as an excuse to bring in more and more authoritarian methods of Government.

[Libertine Dream]

It's mind boggling how it took the police so long to get there and then when they did, they didn't just kill the cvnts.

 

The pain and terror that the man must have felt when being attacked by 2 crazed knife-wielding savages must be unimaginable, only a painful death is befitting for those 2 animals.

No doubt they should be dead and it's something that needs addressing, they wouldn't have thought twice about killing them if this was America.

The new EDL balaclavas give them a distinctly paramilitary air.

 

With the swing to the right of the Tory Party and the rise of the EDL and UKIP, the country is moving ever closer to racial hatred and violence as the norm anyway.  So many people seem only too willing to jump on this odious bandwagon.

 

I despair of this as much as Islamic extremism.

I agree with you a lot of the time

[acooling08]

Lots of Americans on the internet using this case to fuel pro-weapon arguments.

I don't want us to be like America, but a handgun would have been very useful in that situation, I'd have had no hesistation in killing both 'men' as quickly as possible with a view to helping the poor bloke being attacked.

[Harry - LCFC]

The new EDL balaclavas give them a distinctly paramilitary air.

 

With the swing to the right of the Tory Party and the rise of the EDL and UKIP, the country is moving ever closer to racial hatred and violence as the norm anyway.  So many people seem only too willing to jump on this odious bandwagon.

 

I despair of this as much as Islamic extremism.

 

We have a bit of a vicious circle now where either 'side' blames the other for atrocities and then seeks revenge of some kind. Even if it's only to make negative remarks in public, it all contributes to rising aggravation in society between different ethnicities.

 

 

I worry that there are those in power who might use the extremism (if it were to escalate) as an excuse to bring in more and more authoritarian methods of Government.

 

Historical example that's applicable to this situation - The Nazi Party.

 

Extreme I know but the two situations are somewhat comparable - The right wing of British politics blames a specific group, claims that by oppressing this group they will sort out the economy and used authoritarian policies in government. We're in the early stages.

 

Note: I don't for a moment think the UK will see a facist party take power, but it could be a more moderate change that is somewhat similar.

[Merging Cultures]

Lots of Americans on the internet using this case to fuel pro-weapon arguments.

I don't want us to be like America, but a handgun would have been very useful in that situation, I'd have had no hesistation in killing both 'men' as quickly as possible with a view to helping the poor bloke being attacked.

As a Brit living over here, no way would I want the level of fear abd paranoia americans live in.

If guns were available, these idiots would have killed many more people.

[Jon the Hat]

Treat the ****ers like the common murderers they are. I don't care if they did it because of religion, road rage or because their girlfriends told them they had small cocks, they are murderers and nothing more.