The moon.

[Collymore]

I remember reading a book called "who built the moon" where the amount of mathermatical coincedences in relation to the Earth was mind blowing. The books conclusion was ridiculous but I can't stop thinking about the numbers and ratios.

I'm not just talking about the 400 times bigger and 400 times further away chestnut for the eclipse (which on its own would be staggering) but numerous other things that can be proven on a calculator.

Some bloke sums it up well on amazon reviews

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90 of 99 people found the following review helpful

4.0 out of 5 stars astonishing facts but unfounded and illogical conclusions., 28 Nov 2007

By Alpo (London UK) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Who Built the Moon? (Hardcover)

Firstly I'm not sure if I'm a critic or a supporter of this book. I've given it 4 stars because the actual data and numbers that are given are extremely interesting and need to be known by the world. The ratios of days, orbits and diameters, are correct, even if not worded properly: "The moon is exactly 400 times smaller than the sun" should be "the diameter of" the moon, sun etc.

There is clearly something in this that needs further research, but there are a couple of things that bother me about the book.

I personally will not come to a conclusion about what all this means until I have analyzed it far more thoroughly. I might never come to a conclusion about it ever, unless there is an actual fact that proves or disproves something.

That is my main problem with this book, the conclusions the authors come to, have no evidence to support them, its pure speculation. Don't get me wrong, the planetary mechanics and ratios are amazing, and are far too perfect to be coincidence, but that doesn't mean that people from the future did it all, which is what the authors state is their best theory. Theres just as much evidence to support that idea as there is to say the whole solar system is the poo of a giant space fish.

I recommend everyone reads this book before they come to any conclusion and once they've read it don't just settle with the authors ideas. there are more possibilities than just god, aliens or people from the future. Perhaps the solar system is a living organism or maybe theres a completely natural phenomenon where for some reason not yet known to physics, planets harmonize themselves with each other on many different levels ie size, rotation, who knows?

Once these facts become more well known, everyone from Jehovahs witnesses to star trek fans are going to jump on the band wagon and try to use this to support their views.

What I'm trying to say is, the implications of what this could mean are endless, so please don't dismiss these remarkable figures just because someone says it means we are all slaves of the reptilians, or that these facts prove the plot to the terminator films actually happened.

And no matter what anyones opinion is,

The Earth still rotates about 366 times per orbit of the sun, and has a polar diameter 366.0431 percent larger than the moons.

The moon has an orbital period of 27.32 days and has a diameter 27.32 percent that of the Earths polar diameter.

The suns diameter is 109.2 times the size of Earths diameter, and the distance from the earth to the sun when we are at our furthest from it is 109.2 sun diameters.

if you divide 109.2 by 4 you get 27.3

366 moon orbits equal 10000 days

I could go on and on but the fact is you keep on getting the same recurring numbers and multiples of them again and again:

4

27.32

100

109.2

366"

[StanSP]

Is it made of cheese?

[Guest]

*waits for Bonedog's moon theories*

[Collymore]

Is it made of cheese?

NASA said it "rang like a bell" when a booster rocket hit it. Book reckons its hollow .

[foxfanazer]

Is it made of cheese?

Beat me to it!

[fleckneymike]

The 'rang like a bell' has nothing to do with it being hollow, quite the contrary in fact. It is solid and probably has a solid iron core.

 

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/moonmars/features/lunar_core.html

[Collymore]

The 'rang like a bell' has nothing to do with it being hollow, quite the contrary in fact. It is solid and probably has a solid iron core.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/moonmars/features/lunar_core.html

Yeah agree. The book sprouted some shit as the maths could have been covered on 2 pages so it needed some content to fill it.

The only thing that can't be discredited is the maths though.

[fleckneymike]

Yeah agree. The book sprouted some shit as the maths could have been covered on 2 pages so it needed some content to fill it.

The only thing that can't be discredited is the maths though.

 

No but the conclusions can.

 

It's called coincidence.

[Collymore]

No but the conclusions can.

It's called coincidence.

There has to be a point where coincidence stops being a coincedence though. I think of somebody and they ring me on my phone is coincedence.

I'll admit that maybe if it was on its own the 400x phenomenon could be classed as coincedence.

If I then think of another 5 people and they all ring me straight after I start to ask questions.

[fleckneymike]

There has to be a point where coincidence stops being a coincedence though. I think of somebody and they ring me on my phone is coincedence.

I'll admit that maybe if it was on its own the 400x phenomenon could be classed as coincedence.

If I then think of another 5 people and they all ring me straight after I start to ask questions.

 

True but you're thinking globally. We're one planet, in one universe, in one galaxy. Considering there are billions of galaxies its not actually that much of a coincidence.

[Collymore]

I get the whole "size of the universe" and there's probably thousands of planets out there with this canny quirk.

I'd have a bet it's the only one in our galaxy though.

I think you're more likely to come across a planet with life than one with similar relationships to our Moon.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

I'm sure i went to the moon when i was in Amsterdam, it was a great place!

[fleckneymike]

I get the whole "size of the universe" and there's probably thousands of planets out there with this canny quirk.

I'd have a bet it's the only one in our galaxy though.

I think you're more likely to come across a planet with life than one with similar relationships to our Moon.

You possibly are but when we're talking billions of Galaxies. These odd things can be found in space

http://www.cracked.com/article_19662_6-real-planets-that-put-science-fiction-to-shame.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_19479_the-6-most-mind-blowing-things-ever-discovered-in-space.html

[Vlad the Fox]

My mobile rang in the middle of the night once, unknown number, and it was some girl wanting to talk filth. Coincidence or lucky?

[ACF]

My mobile rang in the middle of the night once, unknown number, and it was some girl wanting to talk filth. Coincidence or lucky?

 

I'd say you were dreaming.

[leicsmac]

There are an inconceivable number of planets merely in our galaxy, let alone in the observable Universe, let alone in the Universe outside our ability to detect.

 

The recent Kepler mission has proven that the incidences of stars having a terrestrial planetary system with them are far, far more common than previously thought. And these are just the ones that Kepler can 'see', which are reasonably close. Assuming that this is repeated throughout the galaxy, in our galaxy alone there will be uncountable billions of terrestrial-style planets. With all that in mind, I don't think it's a great leap to put the placement of our Moon and the figures that accompany it into the 'coincidence' category. 

 

However, if it was placed there deliberately, then who did it and why? Was this an example of the Zoo Hypothesis? It's an interesting question. Possibly more interesting though, is the necessity of such a satellite in orbit around a planet to maintain life. Did life emerge on this planet only because of the ideal tidal and shielding conditions that the Moon provided? Or in spite of it? Until we find life on other planetary bodies - and I believe that we will, provided we don't collapse civilisation first - will we have a better idea on that one. 

 

So - in conclusion, let's get digging on Charon and find that first Mass Relay. 

[Vacamion]

To paraphrase Douglas Adams, the Universe is very large indeed.

 

In such a very large universe, weird stuff will occasionally happen (what others in here have referred to as coincidence).

 

There doesn't have to be an intention behind it.

 

Actually, when I think of just how many astromical bodies there are and the order in which they could be arranged,  it makes me want to directly quote from Douglas Adams:

 

"He imagined for a moment his itinerary connecting up all the dots in the sky like a child's numbered dots puzzle. He hoped that from some vantage point in the Universe it might be seen to spell a very, very rude word."

 

[Charl91]

I do find interesting all the perfect conditions needed to sustain life on earth. For example, if we didn't have Jupiter in our solar system, then we'd all be dead by asteroids a long time ago.

[leicsmac]

I do find interesting all the perfect conditions needed to sustain life on earth. For example, if we didn't have Jupiter in our solar system, then we'd all be dead by asteroids a long time ago.

 

Advanced life may never have come about on this planet (too many mass extinctions caused by asteroids to give it time) but it's feasible that simple life may have done. Even the biggest, baddest rocks that have slammed into our planet haven't extinguished more than 75% of life at any point, even merely on the surface. Life is tough, once it gets a foothold. From the evidence of our previous mass extinctions, anyway.

[SystonFox]

I'm a big fan of the moon. On a clear night at the end of the month it lights up the world. Very impressive.

Lolling at claims it is hollow or has a solid iron core though

[StanSP]

I'm a big fan of the moon. On a clear night at the end of the month it lights up the world. Very impressive.

Lolling at claims it is hollow or has a solid iron core though

Same. I do love when it's set quite low and looks absolutely huge on the horizon. Almost as if you could jump up and grab some moon-dust.

[leicsmac]

Same. I do love when it's set quite low and looks absolutely huge on the horizon. Almost as if you could jump up and grab some moon-dust.

 

Hunters Moon. 

 

 

Gorgeous. And that's just the vaguest glimpse of the magnificent things out there in space.

[Webbo]

I'm not as much of a  big fan of the moon as others, more of an armchair supporter.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Illumanti owns the Moon fags.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Lolling at claims it has a solid iron core though

Er, http://www.nasa.gov/connect/chat/moon_core_chat.html