MC Prussian Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 Be afraid, be very afraid (as posted in the XBOX One thread): Secret program gives NSA, FBI backdoor access to Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft data Five-year-old program provides government with direct access to email, messages, browser history, more By Dan Seifert on June 6, 2013 06:04 pm Email @dcseifert369COMMENTS DON'T MISS STORIES FOLLOW THE VERGE 19inShare The US National Security Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation have been harvesting data such as audio, video, photographs, emails, and documents from the internal servers of nine major technology companies, according to a leaked 41-slide security presentation obtained by The Washington Post and The Guardian. According toThe Washington Post, the program's slides were provided by a "career intelligence officer" that had "firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities," and wished to expose the programs "gross intrusion on privacy." The program, codenamed PRISM, is considered highly classified and has never been made public before. The list of companies involved are the who's who of Silicon Valley: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Dropbox, though not yet an official part of the program, is said to be joining it soon. These companies have all willingly participated in the program, says the Post. According to the leaked presentation, the program has been in action since 2007, and is considered the biggest contributor to the daily briefings given to the President, providing data in 1,477 articles last year alone. Allegedly, nearly one in seven intelligence reports from the NSA contains data from the PRISM program. The NSA has the ability to pull any sort of data it likes from these companies, but it claims that it does not try to collect it all. The PRISM program goes above and beyond the existing laws that state companies must comply with government requests for data, as it gives the NSA direct access to each company's servers — essentially letting the NSA do as it pleases. The program was initiated to overcome what the NSA saw as constraints within the existing FISA warrant program that did not allow the agency to make us of the "home-field advantage" provided by having most of the internet's biggest companies on US soil. THE WHO'S WHO OF SILICON VALLEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE NSA'S PRISM PROGRAM Microsoft was the first company to bow to the government's wishes and join the PRISM program in 2007, while Apple held out for five years before agreeing. Though Google and Facebook are a part of PRISM, Twitter has not yet joined. Apparently, the only members of Congress that knew about PRISM's existence were bound by oath not to speak of it publicly. In a statement provided to both The Washington Post and The Guardian, Google denied that the government had any sort of backdoor access to its systems: "Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'backdoor' into our systems, but Google does not have a 'backdoor' for the government to access private user data." LEAKED PRISM DATA-COLLECTION PROGRAM SLIDES VIEW FULL GALLERY Previous Next The training documents for the program reveal that the NSA collects a large amount of data on the American public through the PRISM program. For example, if a specific target is investigated using PRISM, that target's complete inbox and outbox is swept, in addition to anyone that is connected to it. This high-level of access was initially given to the NSA by President Bush and was later renewed in 2012 by President Obama. This report follows the news from earlier this week of the NSA's involvement in collecting call data and records from Verizon in another massive surveillance partnership. Update: The Director of National Intelligence issued a statement today, aiming to clear up "inaccuracies" in reporting on the PRISM program. The DNI argues that only people outside of the United States have been targeted, and that the program “does not allow†the targeting of citizens or others within US borders. “This program was recently reauthorized by Congress after extensive hearings and debate,†said the official, adding that, “information collected under this program is among the most important and valuable intelligence information we collect, and is used to protect our nation from a wide variety of threats.†The word “target†takes on special significance given what has been reported by former NSA codebreaker William Binney and others. The Stellar Wind program, for which Binney claims to have contributed much of the base code, is said to compile massive amounts of internet traffic, which can then be queried at a later time. According to USSID 18, a top-secret NSA manual of definitions and legal directives, an “intercept†only occurs when the database is queried — when someone actually reads the text on a screen. Update 2: The Washington Post has backtracked slightly on its original story. Attempting to explain the disparity between its findings and the statements given by the companies involved, it says: "It is possible that the conflict between the PRISM slides and the company spokesmen is the result of imprecision on the part of the NSA author. In another classified report obtained by The Post, the arrangement is described as allowing "collection managers [to send] content tasking instructions directly to equipment installed at company-controlled locations," rather than directly to company servers." http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/4403868/nsa-fbi-mine-data-apple-google-facebook-microsoft-others-prism
Vacamion Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 I'd just like to draw no attention to this thread whatsoever by using the words Bomb Allah Holy Chemical Jihad Prime Minister London Nuclear and Jimmy Saville Glad I could help...
davieG Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 I'd just like to draw no attention to this thread whatsoever by using the words Bomb Allah Holy Chemical Jihad Prime Minister London Nuclear and Jimmy Saville Glad I could help... You missed off Wellens
leicsmac Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 Zingari/ElEmpty fodder, this Not exactly. Because this is actually happening. Just waiting for the first person to come on here and say "If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear."
Guest BlueBrett Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 It's no surprise that they have the capability. That has never really been the issue for governments. It's only limited resources (financial and man hours) that stops them from spying on all of us all of the time. IT'S ALL IN THE NAME OF 'NATIONAL SECURITY' THOUGH SO THAT'S A OK
Jon the Hat Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 No surprise at all. "This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector" Plato.
Steven Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 I'd just like to draw no attention to this thread whatsoever by using the words Bomb Allah Holy Chemical Jihad Prime Minister London Nuclear and Jimmy Saville Glad I could help... Try these The Official List – Using these words online will put you in the crosshairs of Big Brother’s multi-billion dollar spy machine Domestic Security Assassination Attack Domestic security Drill Exercise Cops Law enforcement Authorities Disaster assistance Disaster management DNDO (Domestic Nuclear Detection Office) National preparedness Mitigation Prevention Response Recovery Dirty bomb Domestic nuclear detection Emergency management Emergency response First responder Homeland security Maritime domain awareness (MDA) National preparedness initiative Militia Shooting Shots fired Evacuation Deaths Hostage Explosion (explosive) Police Disaster medical assistance team (DMAT) Organized crime Gangs National security State of emergency Security Breach Threat Standoff SWAT Screening Lockdown Bomb (squad or threat) Crash Looting Riot Emergency Landing Pipe bomb Incident Facility HAZMAT & Nuclear Hazmat Nuclear Chemical spill Suspicious package/device Toxic National laboratory Nuclear facility Nuclear threat Cloud Plume Radiation Radioactive Leak Biological infection (or event) Chemical Chemical burn Biological Epidemic Hazardous Hazardous material incident Industrial spill Infection Powder (white) Gas Spillover Anthrax Blister agent Chemical agent Exposure Burn Nerve agent Ricin Sarin North Korea Health Concern + H1N1 Outbreak Contamination Exposure Virus Evacuation Bacteria Recall Ebola Food Poisoning Foot and Mouth (FMD) H5N1 Avian Flu Strain Quarantine H1N1 Vaccine Salmonella Small Pox Plague Human to human Human to Animal Influenza Center for Disease Control (CDC) Drug Administration (FDA) Public Health Toxic Agro Terror Tuberculosis (TB) Tamiflu Norvo Virus Epidemic Agriculture Listeria Symptoms Mutation Resistant Antiviral Wave Pandemic Infection Water/air borne Sick Swine Pork World Health Organization (WHO) (and components) Viral Hemorrhagic Fever E. Coli Infrastructure Security Infrastructure security Airport CIKR (Critical Infrastructure & Key Resources) AMTRAK Collapse Computer infrastructure Communications infrastructure Telecommunications Critical infrastructure National infrastructure Metro WMATA Airplane (and derivatives) Chemical fire Subway BART MARTA Port Authority NBIC (National Biosurveillance Integration Center) Transportation security Grid Power Smart Body scanner Electric Failure or outage Black out Brown out Port Dock Bridge Cancelled Delays Service disruption Power lines Southwest Border Violence Drug cartel Violence Gang Drug Narcotics Cocaine Marijuana Heroin Border Mexico Cartel Southwest Juarez Sinaloa Tijuana Torreon Yuma Tucson Decapitated U.S. Consulate Consular El Paso Fort Hancock San Diego Ciudad Juarez Nogales Sonora Colombia Mara salvatrucha MS13 or MS-13 Drug war Mexican army Methamphetamine Cartel de Golfo Gulf Cartel La Familia Reynosa Nuevo Leon Narcos Narco banners (Spanish equivalents) Los Zetas Shootout Execution Gunfight Trafficking Kidnap Calderon Reyosa Bust Tamaulipas Meth Lab Drug trade Illegal immigrants Smuggling (smugglers) Matamoros Michoacana Guzman Arellano-Felix Beltran-Leyva Barrio Azteca Artistic Assassins Mexicles New Federation Terrorism Terrorism Al Qaeda (all spellings) Terror Attack Iraq Afghanistan Iran Pakistan Agro Environmental terrorist Eco terrorism Conventional weapon Target Weapons grade Dirty bomb Enriched Nuclear Chemical weapon Biological weapon Ammonium nitrate Improvised explosive device IED (Improvised Explosive Device) Abu Sayyaf Hamas FARC (Armed Revolutionary Forces Colombia) IRA (Irish Republican Army) ETA (Euskadi ta Askatasuna) Basque Separatists Hezbollah Tamil Tigers PLF (Palestine Liberation Front) PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization Car bomb Jihad Taliban Weapons cache Suicide bomber Suicide attack Suspicious substance AQAP (AL Qaeda Arabian Peninsula) AQIM (Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) TTP (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) Yemen Pirates Extremism Somalia Nigeria Radicals Al-Shabaab Home grown Plot Nationalist Recruitment Fundamentalism Islamist Weather/Disaster/Emergency Emergency Hurricane Tornado Twister Tsunami Earthquake Tremor Flood Storm Crest Temblor Extreme weather Forest fire Brush fire Ice Stranded/Stuck Help Hail Wildfire Tsunami Warning Center Magnitude Avalanche Typhoon Shelter-in-place Disaster Snow Blizzard Sleet Mud slide or Mudslide Erosion Power outage Brown out Warning Watch Lightening Aid Relief Closure Interstate Burst Emergency Broadcast System Cyber Security Cyber security Botnet DDOS (dedicated denial of service) Denial of service Malware Virus Trojan Keylogger Cyber Command 2600 Spammer Phishing Rootkit Phreaking Cain and abel Brute forcing Mysql injection Cyber attack Cyber terror Hacker China Conficker Worm Scammers Social media
BoneDog Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 Not exactly. Because this is actually happening. Just waiting for the first person to come on here and say "If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear." What in the holy hell is that supposed to mean?! Alot of things me, Zingari and others talk about are actually happening! I don't just think 'what can I make up today' you know...cheeky scamp. Been warning of the up-coming total surveillance for a decade. Nobody should allow their children to have one of these devices in their bedroom. Elite paedo ring heaven, the Xbox One - video and audio of childrens bedrooms 24/7, 365 days a year. Nasty piece of kit. DON'T BUY IT. Gates and his mates are depopulation perv scum...fact.
leicsmac Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 What in the holy hell is that supposed to mean?! Alot of things me, Zingari and others talk about are actually happening! I don't just think 'what can I make up today' you know...cheeky scamp. Been warning of the up-coming total surveillance for a decade. Nobody should allow their children to have one of these devices in their bedroom. Elite paedo ring heaven, the Xbox One - video and audio of childrens bedrooms 24/7, 365 days a year. Nasty piece of kit. DON'T BUY IT. Gates and his mates are depopulation perv scum...fact. Sorry Empty, cheap shot on my part there. Certainly agree with you about the surveillance society - this proves it's already here.
purpleronnie Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 we have more CCTV cameras per person than any other country watching us 24/7, not sure most will care about this either unfortunately.
Carl the Llama Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 Like most people, I never wanted an Xbox One anyway. But now that I know I can perform the skin flute dance while staring some covert ops techy dead in the eyes, I'm beginning to reconsider.
sphericalfox Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 So with this PRISM Scheme do I have to self-employed and how many distributors do I need to break even or make a profit?
Harry - LCFC Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 In fairness the Chinese do this anyway. Did anyone see Newsnight's recent broadcast about hackers? I'd rather have the government looking at my emails than some chap in Beijing, they're the ones I'd rather we had dealt with.
Guest Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 The patriot act has long given the states the ability to look at all of our information anyway. The US is the biggest menace on the planet and the country that breaks more rules than any other
Webbo Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 The patriot act has long given the states the ability to look at all of our information anyway. The US is the biggest menace on the planet and the country that breaks more rules than any other Worse than China, N Korea, Iran? Really?
Guest Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 Worse than China, N Korea, Iran? Really? As an example of why you need to look more deeply than what the headlines tell you: In 2005 Iran made an offer to change all enriched materials into a form that could only be used in reactors and to have international inspectors permanently installed in Iran with free reign. In return they asked the US to confirm their right to peaceful nuclear energy. This is actually the right of every country under UN rsolution. The US flatly refused to agree to this and since then have continued to sanction a country that offered what they are publicly asking for. North Korea does act in a rather mad manner but at the same time they were levelled by a superpower in the 50s and now have the US carrying out fake bombing raids using the most sophisticated bombers ever built on an annual basis - practising for a war on North Korea. If France acted that way towards us I'm pretty sure we'd change the way we acted towards them pretty sharpish. When did you ever hear about North Korea until Bush's 'Axis of Evil' speech? Before that speech it had been verified that their nuclear programme had been shut down. The US have good people but as a nation they appear to have embarked on an imperial mission to dominate the globe and try to listen to every conversation globally because they're scared. They have become so paranoid as a nation it has led to them acting in a way that is unacceptable. They certainly wouldn't accept it from anybody else. They shoot people from remote controlled planes in countries they're not at war with FFS. The US definition of a militant is a male of military age within a strike zone. This means that any male, whatever their beliefs and wherever they are, are called militants if the US shoot them. How is that the definition of a country that is sane in its foreign policy? Just so you don't forget - we back them up with this stuff.
Steven Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 As an example of why you need to look more deeply than what the headlines tell you: In 2005 Iran made an offer to change all enriched materials into a form that could only be used in reactors and to have international inspectors permanently installed in Iran with free reign. In return they asked the US to confirm their right to peaceful nuclear energy. This is actually the right of every country under UN rsolution. The US flatly refused to agree to this and since then have continued to sanction a country that offered what they are publicly asking for. North Korea does act in a rather mad manner but at the same time they were levelled by a superpower in the 50s and now have the US carrying out fake bombing raids using the most sophisticated bombers ever built on an annual basis - practising for a war on North Korea. If France acted that way towards us I'm pretty sure we'd change the way we acted towards them pretty sharpish. When did you ever hear about North Korea until Bush's 'Axis of Evil' speech? Before that speech it had been verified that their nuclear programme had been shut down. The US have good people but as a nation they appear to have embarked on an imperial mission to dominate the globe and try to listen to every conversation globally because they're scared. They have become so paranoid as a nation it has led to them acting in a way that is unacceptable. They certainly wouldn't accept it from anybody else. They shoot people from remote controlled planes in countries they're not at war with FFS. The US definition of a militant is a male of military age within a strike zone. This means that any male, whatever their beliefs and wherever they are, are called militants if the US shoot them. How is that the definition of a country that is sane in its foreign policy? Just so you don't forget - we back them up with this stuff. Yet you still failed to mention the utter hypocrisy of the American position.
Webbo Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 As an example of why you need to look more deeply than what the headlines tell you: In 2005 Iran made an offer to change all enriched materials into a form that could only be used in reactors and to have international inspectors permanently installed in Iran with free reign. In return they asked the US to confirm their right to peaceful nuclear energy. This is actually the right of every country under UN rsolution. The US flatly refused to agree to this and since then have continued to sanction a country that offered what they are publicly asking for. North Korea does act in a rather mad manner but at the same time they were levelled by a superpower in the 50s and now have the US carrying out fake bombing raids using the most sophisticated bombers ever built on an annual basis - practising for a war on North Korea. If France acted that way towards us I'm pretty sure we'd change the way we acted towards them pretty sharpish. When did you ever hear about North Korea until Bush's 'Axis of Evil' speech? Before that speech it had been verified that their nuclear programme had been shut down. The US have good people but as a nation they appear to have embarked on an imperial mission to dominate the globe and try to listen to every conversation globally because they're scared. They have become so paranoid as a nation it has led to them acting in a way that is unacceptable. They certainly wouldn't accept it from anybody else. They shoot people from remote controlled planes in countries they're not at war with FFS. The US definition of a militant is a male of military age within a strike zone. This means that any male, whatever their beliefs and wherever they are, are called militants if the US shoot them. How is that the definition of a country that is sane in its foreign policy? Just so you don't forget - we back them up with this stuff. Where would you rather live America or Iran. N Korea , China? To even pretend than any of the latter countries has an even similar record of human rights towards it's own citizens as the US is a pathetic lie.
Guest Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 Where would you rather live America or Iran. N Korea , China? To even pretend than any of the latter countries has an even similar record of human rights towards it's own citizens as the US is a pathetic lie. I didn't mention human rights within the US. I was discussing foreign policy. The US as people have good hearts, they've just become lost as a nation.
Guest MattP Posted 7 June 2013 Posted 7 June 2013 It's frightening but there is nothing we can do to stop it. The whole country has been so dumbed down the vast majority don't care. I'm sure the government did it deliberately and with that intention.
MooseBreath Posted 8 June 2013 Posted 8 June 2013 "You can't have 100% security and then have 100% privacy." - President Obama So there you have it, right from the top, "we have been spying on you and will continue to do so, but it's for your own good... Promise"
The Year Of The Fox Posted 8 June 2013 Posted 8 June 2013 "You can't have 100% security and then have 100% privacy." - President Obama So there you have it, right from the top, "we have been spying on you and will continue to do so, but it's for your own good... Promise" Does it really matter though? It doesn't to me. I don't think Obama really cares what I thought after the Watford game, or whether the bird I shagged last weekend was any good!
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