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Hull City Tigers

By stu, in General Football and Sport

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Jordan

Jordan

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Now, the Allams do have a point that nobody ever uses the "AFC" when referring to Hull City. He could have just said, "We're re-naming the team 'Hull City Tigers' because none of you call the team an "Association Football Club" but our fans do call the club "The Tigers." This just makes more sense."

But instead, they went on and on about marketing nonsense. As such, this just doesn't feel right at all. The whole tone of the statements was actually rather angry and I'm just left shaking my head at the whole thing.

purpleronnie

purpleronnie

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Now, the Allams do have a point that nobody ever uses the "AFC" when referring to Hull City. He could have just said, "We're re-naming the team 'Hull City Tigers' because none of you call the team an "Association Football Club" but our fans do call the club "The Tigers." This just makes more sense."

But instead, they went on and on about marketing nonsense. As such, this just doesn't feel right at all. The whole tone of the statements was actually rather angry and I'm just left shaking my head at the whole thing.

And thats from an American.

Jordan

Jordan

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And thats from an American.

And speaking of marketing Premier League clubs and Americans...

 

NBC Sports broadcast an hour-long English Premier League "Club Guide," in which they gave a rudimentary run-down of all 20 Premier League clubs for fans unfamiliar with the league, and encouraged neutral fans to choose a side. It's all part of their marketing of the Premier League as they prepare to broadcast the entire season starting next weekend.

 

In case anyone is wondering, NBC is marketing the Premier League as a cool thing that people need to watch precisely because of how English it is. They're telling Americans that the clubs have been around for seemingly forever. That the clubs have quirky, English names (i.e. "Tottenham Hotspur"). That the club's colors simply don't change (well, by and large, anyway). That the clubs have their own histories and idiosyncrasies. That it's different than what we're used to in American sports (with a comedy sketch by Jason Sudeikis playing an American football coach taking over Tottenham Hotspur placed in the show last night to highlight this). That there's a certain masochism about following a ne'er-do-well side. And that you don't just all of a sudden switch your allegiances for any reason. They also had a segment featuring legendary NYC publican Jack Keane, who said one thing he always reminds new fans is that they club the like--no matter how good they are or aren't now--has a history that should be respected.

 

In an ironic way, NBC has got it right. If, all of a sudden, the Premier League changed all of its team names and marketed themselves as Red Devils vs. Tigers, people around the world just may lose interest in it, because English soccer wouldn't be very "English" anymore. Americans like "The Bachelorette" but they also like "Downton Abbey." And I'm sure Asians like a lot of other English things in part due to their "Englishness."

 

English football and fan culture is something that is appreciated and mimicked all over the world. The Premier League clubs should embrace this rather than reject it.

purpleronnie

purpleronnie

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More good news, Crystal palace are set to announce renaming their stadium.

 

 

Crystal Palace set to rename Selhurst Park as the 12Bet Stadium ahead of Premier League returnBy Graeme Yorke

Crystal Palace are ready to rename their ground the 12Bet Stadium this season.
The Premier League new boys have brokered a deal to sell the rights to the famous Selhurst Park - synonymous with the Eagles since 1924.

Co-owner Steve Parish is behind the plan, which is a similar move to when Newcastle United changed St James' Park to the Sports Direct Arena.

 
Same ground, different name: Crystal Palace are set to rename Selhurst Park the 12Bet Stadium
 
Uproar: Newcastle were lambasted for using Mike Ashley's Sports Direct as a stadium name
It's said that the added income will help Ian Holloway's side in trying to stay in the top flight
A Palace board member has stated that talks have taken place. 'We can't confirm it yet - it is something that hasn't been announced yet,' they told the Croydon Advertiser.

'It's something that Steve (Parish) has been dealing with. It might be, it might not be, but unfortunately it's no further comment.'
 
The money will come in handy: Ian Holloway has struggled to sign players this summer
The manager has revealed that the summer transfer market has been an 'absolute nightmare' as he struggles to get numbers in.

Holloway has added - largely in attacking areas - but still wants more.

12Bet will be glad to be paying for the marketing ploy, because a quick internet search indicates they're not the best at doing it themselves online. The well-known bookies are said to be 'well-know' which raises questions over their professionalism.

 

 

Stadt

Stadt

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We can't really slate them about a stadium name change,but it's not worth it if they just get relegated again.

Guest Bilo

Guest Bilo

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Let's face it, they can have as many sponsors' names as they like but it'll always be called Selhurst Park by the fans. 

Guest Bilo

Guest Bilo

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I can guess without clicking it'll be the 'Sold their Soul Crew.'

Jordan

Jordan

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If we really have crossed the Rubicon now, then let every other "City" change their name because it's not unique, leaving only Leicester with "City" in their name. Then, Leicester won't have to change their name, because "City" would be unique.

Harry - LCFC

Harry - LCFC

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I kind of sympathise with that view. There are a lot of clubs with that name, I never refer to us as City as I don't feel it's really our name. Manchester City are the City IMO. That's why I quite like the idea of Leicester Fosse, totally unique, gives us the more recognisable initials of LFFC and a good historical reference too.

 

Having said that there's no excuse for that Tigers shite, would much rather blend in than stand out like that. Plus they've always been called Hull City, you can't change a club's history like that, it's just plain offensive.

Jordan

Jordan

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The whole "City," "County," "Town" etc., along with "Football Club" or "Association Football Club," are merely English customs and there is no harm whatsoever to a club's marketing endeavors in keeping those parts of the club's name. There may be other teams called "City," but there are no other teams in the league with "Hull" in their name, and certainly no other team called "Hull City."

There's a reason "Hull City AFC" doesn't stand out amongst a crowd of club names, and it has nothing to do with blandness or unoriginality.

Mike the Metal Ed

Mike the Metal Ed

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It's a good job the biggest brand name in English football that has remained for decades doesn't have a name that could be associated with places like Hartlepool... or Carlisle... or Torquay... or Boston...

Jordan

Jordan

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It's a good job the biggest brand name in English football that has remained for decades doesn't have a name that could be associated with places like Hartlepool... or Carlisle... or Torquay... or Boston...

Speaking of the "AFC" thing with Hull City, it is interesting--and not an accident at all--that this team removed "Football Club" from their logo as they began to mount an aggressive global marketing campaign.

But they could have been called anything: the reason their brand, with its antiquated name, is successful is the same reason why Hull City's isn't.

Dan

Dan

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And speaking of marketing Premier League clubs and Americans...

 

NBC Sports broadcast an hour-long English Premier League "Club Guide," in which they gave a rudimentary run-down of all 20 Premier League clubs for fans unfamiliar with the league, and encouraged neutral fans to choose a side. It's all part of their marketing of the Premier League as they prepare to broadcast the entire season starting next weekend.

 

In case anyone is wondering, NBC is marketing the Premier League as a cool thing that people need to watch precisely because of how English it is. They're telling Americans that the clubs have been around for seemingly forever. That the clubs have quirky, English names (i.e. "Tottenham Hotspur"). That the club's colors simply don't change (well, by and large, anyway). That the clubs have their own histories and idiosyncrasies. That it's different than what we're used to in American sports (with a comedy sketch by Jason Sudeikis playing an American football coach taking over Tottenham Hotspur placed in the show last night to highlight this). That there's a certain masochism about following a ne'er-do-well side. And that you don't just all of a sudden switch your allegiances for any reason. They also had a segment featuring legendary NYC publican Jack Keane, who said one thing he always reminds new fans is that they club the like--no matter how good they are or aren't now--has a history that should be respected.

 

In an ironic way, NBC has got it right. If, all of a sudden, the Premier League changed all of its team names and marketed themselves as Red Devils vs. Tigers, people around the world just may lose interest in it, because English soccer wouldn't be very "English" anymore. Americans like "The Bachelorette" but they also like "Downton Abbey." And I'm sure Asians like a lot of other English things in part due to their "Englishness."

 

English football and fan culture is something that is appreciated and mimicked all over the world. The Premier League clubs should embrace this rather than reject it.

 

What a cracking post. So much time for this.

 

I'm aware I bang on about particular topics far too often, probably to the extent it bugs some people, but we had something special in this country and it just seems like people are happy to accept it being eradicated from our game. English football and fan culture was the inspiration for a lot of the football on the continent, yet now we seem to be the total opposite.

Dan

Dan

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The whole "City," "County," "Town" etc., along with "Football Club" or "Association Football Club," are merely English customs and there is no harm whatsoever to a club's marketing endeavors in keeping those parts of the club's name. There may be other teams called "City," but there are no other teams in the league with "Hull" in their name, and certainly no other team called "Hull City."

There's a reason "Hull City AFC" doesn't stand out amongst a crowd of club names, and it has nothing to do with blandness or unoriginality.

 

The club itself makes the name. Manchester United is a very dull name yet one of the most iconic in sport.

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ruisliptiger

ruisliptiger

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Feel free to take the piss. After all that is one of the reasons English football fans is the best in the world.

 

However, just remember. once one domino falls the rest will follow. If the footballing world had idly sat back and shrugged when MK Dons was formed it may have become the norm. As it was it was made know in no uncertain way that it was the sort of thing that should never happen again. This is not just a fight for Hull City A.F.C fans. This is a fight for fans of all British footballs teams. This should not be allowed to become the norm. The fans should have the final say on what their club is called. If this is allowed to happen to Hull City A.F.C then what next? Leicester Foxes? Cardiff Dragons? Watford Hornets?

 

If you are against the idea of Football teams being turned into nothing more than a business then make a small gesture by joining this group. The more support from other Clubs we get then the stronger the campaign will be. There will be opportunities in the future to contribute in some small way.

 

Do it for the good of all Football

 

http://www.facebook.com/NoToHullTigers?fref=ts

http://www.citytillwedie.com/

 

Thank you for your time.

Harry - LCFC

Harry - LCFC

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Feel free to take the piss. After all that is one of the reasons English football fans is the best in the world.

 

However, just remember. once one domino falls the rest will follow. If the footballing world had idly sat back and shrugged when MK Dons was formed it may have become the norm. As it was it was made know in no uncertain way that it was the sort of thing that should never happen again. This is not just a fight for Hull City A.F.C fans. This is a fight for fans of all British footballs teams. This should not be allowed to become the norm. The fans should have the final say on what their club is called. If this is allowed to happen to Hull City A.F.C then what next? Leicester Foxes? Cardiff Dragons? Watford Hornets?

 

If you are against the idea of Football teams being turned into nothing more than a business then make a small gesture by joining this group. The more support from other Clubs we get then the stronger the campaign will be. There will be opportunities in the future to contribute in some small way.

 

Do it for the good of all Football

 

http://www.facebook.com/NoToHullTigers?fref=ts

http://www.citytillwedie.com/

 

Thank you for your time.

 

I see a petition advertised on the website but I can't get to it. Could you post the link so I can sign it please?

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