Leicester Lass Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 no worries. Thank you . With the new retail site, is it just the ticketing part that's been revamped or the whole thing, including clothing etc...? As far as I know it's the whole thing. Hospitality will also be available to purchase online for the first time ever, and there will be a 'view from my seat' function too, similar to the one that Forest have.
Dan Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 For those interested, a couple of updates from the FCC Meeting on Wednesday. Although the full minutes should be made available fairly soon. Susan mentioned that thanks to the owners clearing of the debt and a huge effort from Nigel, we are as a club, completely compliant with FFP. Season Tickets for the upcoming season are being launched in March - they weren't able to discuss prices but they were 'fair' for whichever league we're in next season - so we shall see. There will be a new retail site launched (I think today) which will improve the process of ticket sales. The reason platinum fixtures were chosen for Sheff Weds and Watford weren't ideal for the club. They had other fixtures in mind (e.g. Leeds was on a Sunday and Sky so left it alone, they presumed QPR would be on Sky, it isn't etc). The recent history between Watford let to that becoming platinum and there's historically been a big crowd for Sheff Wed's games. RE Birmingham away - the guy in charge of our ticket office said he spoke to Birmingham well in advance about getting more tickets and was refused. The most we received was 400 and they sold out the Saturday before the game. Birmingham made tickets available on the gate unbeknown to LCFC. He has also attempted to strike deals with other Championship clubs (namely Burnley) to offer similar deals for away fans, but again was turned down. I presume Burnley think we'll take a load there. Finally, he explained the booking priority - General Sale only means those fans who haven't bought ANY tickets in the past 2 years. The priority before that is for those fans who have been to a game in the last 2 years (if you're friends have bought them for you, speak to the TO and they should use some common sense). He will ensure that fans (with booking history) are given at the very least a week before the game and in most cases 2 weeks. We also had a discussion about the 'Matchday Experience' and activities around the ground. I think we'll probably see more of the Winter Wonderland type stuff, games and activities for kids around the ground but they're also keen to get people to the ground earlier. So the idea of a pub/marquee selling beer before the game (a la Brighton) was mentioned and taken on board. Any questions, just ask but as I say, you should see the full minutes, though they have taken quite a while previously. Season ticket prices - I'll believe they're 'fair' when I see them, I wouldn't be too fussed if there's some increase but not a huge one. Time will tell. Platinum prices - They should be binned off full stop. They've done nothing but lower attendances which should've been far higher except the very odd one (Forest this season). The pricing is high enough on matchdays and it really doesn't need increasing further. Burnley - Shame that is but at least LCFC tried. Booking priority - That's better than I thought it was but I still didn't really see the problem with the old system.
jammie82uk Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 As far as I know it's the whole thing. Hospitality will also be available to purchase online for the first time ever, and there will be a 'view from my seat' function too, similar to the one that Forest have. It is already possible to buy hospitality online but I'm Looking forward to this website update
whitlock Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Season ticket prices - I'll believe they're 'fair' when I see them, I wouldn't be too fussed if there's some increase but not a huge one. Time will tell. Platinum prices - They should be binned off full stop. They've done nothing but lower attendances which should've been far higher except the very odd one (Forest this season). The pricing is high enough on matchdays and it really doesn't need increasing further. Burnley - Shame that is but at least LCFC tried. Booking priority - That's better than I thought it was but I still didn't really see the problem with the old system. Charge more and get a lower attendance Charge the same/less get a higher attendance Surely there's no need for platinum fixtures for Sheff Weds etc? I can understand platinum fixtures in the prem with city/united et al at home but..?
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Was anything mentioned (genuine question) about the high prices charged by the club for its food and drink? And about the fact that, even if you want to buy anything at half-time, you're stood in a queue for thirty minutes? Some of the basics need improving before anything else IMO.
Basingstoke Fox Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 The reason platinum fixtures were chosen for Sheff Weds and Watford weren't ideal for the club. They had other fixtures in mind (e.g. Leeds was on a Sunday and Sky so left it alone, they presumed QPR would be on Sky, it isn't etc). The recent history between Watford let to that becoming platinum and there's historically been a big crowd for Sheff Wed's games. It sounds like the club feels that they have to put on a certain number of platinum fixtures every season or something. If the Leeds and QPR games are no longer platinum fixtures then who cares? Just leave it at that, it doesn't mean that they have to change 'platinum' prices for the others.
AndWhat? Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 It sounds like the club feels that they have to put on a certain number of platinum fixtures every season or something. If the Leeds and QPR games are no longer platinum fixtures then who cares? Just leave it at that, it doesn't mean that they have to change 'platinum' prices for the others. From a fans perspective that makes sense. But at the end of the day the guys in charge are running a business and they will have targets to hit. Football is for you and me not for ****ing industry!!
Leicester Lass Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 It sounds like the club feels that they have to put on a certain number of platinum fixtures every season or something. If the Leeds and QPR games are no longer platinum fixtures then who cares? Just leave it at that, it doesn't mean that they have to change 'platinum' prices for the others. They have 4 platinum fixtures a season, and season ticket prices are calculated based on this number as well as the number of fans fixtures etc. After Sheff Weds was downgraded there are no plans to upgrade any further fixtures to platinum fixtures, meaning there will only be 3 this season. I hate the whole idea of platinum fixtures, and have said so in a number of meetings but it's just one of those things I'm afraid. The club mentioned that Swansea did trial one pricing structure across the whole season, but still found there to be a variation in attendances dependent on the opponent etc.
StanSP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Have the club ever looked in to dynamic ticket-pricing? Not saying that we should go for it, but I know Derby are using it this season and maybe had it last season.
broughtonblue Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Have the club ever looked in to dynamic ticket-pricing? Not saying that we should go for it, but I know Derby are using it this season and maybe had it last season. What is dynamic pricing?
StanSP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 What is dynamic pricing? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19716087
Leicester Lass Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 Have the club ever looked in to dynamic ticket-pricing? Not saying that we should go for it, but I know Derby are using it this season and maybe had it last season. Yes, they've looked into it but not keen. I think there's a reason it hasn't really taken off with more clubs.
Dan Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Charge more and get a lower attendance Charge the same/less get a higher attendance Surely there's no need for platinum fixtures for Sheff Weds etc? I can understand platinum fixtures in the prem with city/united et al at home but..? With people who prioritise business over football, you're always going to see prices that will be based around revenue rather than attendance even if it's only marginal. I don't agree with the last bit either. It's a joke that fans of successful clubs are penalised for their success by having to pay more than what anyone else has to. Have a fixed price for all games with the occasional cheaper deal.
Dan Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 They have 4 platinum fixtures a season, and season ticket prices are calculated based on this number as well as the number of fans fixtures etc. After Sheff Weds was downgraded there are no plans to upgrade any further fixtures to platinum fixtures, meaning there will only be 3 this season. I hate the whole idea of platinum fixtures, and have said so in a number of meetings but it's just one of those things I'm afraid. The club mentioned that Swansea did trial one pricing structure across the whole season, but still found there to be a variation in attendances dependent on the opponent etc. I assumed Swansea would sell out pretty much every game. Of course Fulham at home isn't going to attract the same crowd as Man Utd at home, mind. If we go up - I'd love to see what percentage of our revenue comes from matchday ticket prices - and whether it's something of genuine importance to the running of the club or whether it's just greed. I don't think you need Einstein to tell you which one I think it is.
Your Are My Leicester Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 What was mentioned regarding Union FS? Would love to know the club response ton them.
Kitchandro Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 They have 4 platinum fixtures a season, and season ticket prices are calculated based on this number as well as the number of fans fixtures etc. After Sheff Weds was downgraded there are no plans to upgrade any further fixtures to platinum fixtures, meaning there will only be 3 this season. I hate the whole idea of platinum fixtures, and have said so in a number of meetings but it's just one of those things I'm afraid. The club mentioned that Swansea did trial one pricing structure across the whole season, but still found there to be a variation in attendances dependent on the opponent etc. WTF did they bring that up for? Firstly, we're not Swansea. We're nothing like Swansea. Secondly, well yeh, of course the crowd will be bigger for games against Forest etc. Why would we want to reduce the crowd? God I really fvcking hate them. They're just massive, massive cvnts.
Leicester Lass Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 WTF did they bring that up for? Firstly, we're not Swansea. We're nothing like Swansea. Secondly, well yeh, of course the crowd will be bigger for games against Forest etc. Why would we want to reduce the crowd? God I really fvcking hate them. They're just massive, massive cvnts. They're not at all, they're trying to run a business. They brought it up because they look in depth at how other clubs are run when it comes to ticketing in order to try and better their own business. You'll find the majority of clubs have a tiered pricing structure which isn't too dissimilar to ours. I'm not for one minute saying I agree with 'platinum' fixtures, and I think our pricing as a whole is a joke. At the end of the day it's simple economics for games against Forest, Derby etc the demand will be higher so in their minds a price increase is justifiable. I would suggest you apply to sit on the FCC when the application process opens again, because it would really open your eyes up to a few things, and I think it'd do you good to see these 'cvnts' genuinely do care for the club and the fans.
Kitchandro Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 They're not at all, they're trying to run a business. They brought it up because they look in depth at how other clubs are run when it comes to ticketing in order to try and better their own business. You'll find the majority of clubs have a tiered pricing structure which isn't too dissimilar to ours. I'm not for one minute saying I agree with 'platinum' fixtures, and I think our pricing as a whole is a joke. At the end of the day it's simple economics for games against Forest, Derby etc the demand will be higher so in their minds a price increase is justifiable. I would suggest you apply to sit on the FCC when the application process opens again, because it would really open your eyes up to a few things, and I think it'd do you good to see these 'cvnts' genuinely do care for the club and the fans. Well obviously not, and that contradicts what you've said earlier in the post about them 'running a business'. Them making more of a profit doesn't justify it to me, it may do to them but that's not a good enough excuse for me. The part about looking at other clubs is exactly what's wrong with them. Other club's do this, so it's ok for us to do it. No, it doesn't work like that. These people shouldn't be looking for ways to defend themselves and their pricing, they should do their own thing for the right reasons. This is just like the standing debate when they say they're waiting for other clubs to take the lead, like it's not their responsibility to change things for the better. If they 'genuinely cared' for the fans they would be more interested in getting big crowds than squeezing a profit in any way they can. I'm sure they're very polite and a bunch of sweet talkers but facts speak the truth. Please to not insult the intelligence of fans by suggesting they really care about them.
Leicester Lass Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 Well obviously not, and that contradicts what you've said earlier in the post about them 'running a business'. Them making more of a profit doesn't justify it to me, it may do to them but that's not a good enough excuse for me. The part about looking at other clubs is exactly what's wrong with them. Other club's do this, so it's ok for us to do it. No, it doesn't work like that. These people shouldn't be looking for ways to defend themselves and their pricing, they should do their own thing for the right reasons. This is just like the standing debate when they say they're waiting for other clubs to take the lead, like it's not their responsibility to change things for the better. If they 'genuinely cared' for the fans they would be more interested in getting big crowds than squeezing a profit in any way they can. I'm sure they're very polite and a bunch of sweet talkers but facts speak the truth. Please to not insult the intelligence of fans by suggesting they really care about them. How is it 'obviously not'? Have you ever met or spoken to these people? Because if you had I can guarantee you wouldn't hold the opinion that you do now. They are still business people, let's be clear on that but they also have an affection for the club and the fans. Why the talk about profits? We make huge losses, and the ticket revenue goes nowhere near covering our costs. If we go up the revenue from tickets will be a drop in the ocean compared to TV money etc. If you understood anything about how businesses work you'd realise that you will keep an eye on what other people in the same market are doing, and what's working for them and what doesn't work for them. Let's be clear, there's a huge amount of number crunching that goes towards setting ticket prices, which will all be based on price elasticity. Do you really think that they set prices high on purpose just to annoy people? If lowering the prices would lead to increased revenues then they would do it, of course they would. You only have to look at the attendance at our fans fixture against Burnley to see that cheap tickets doesn't mean bums on seats. Seems to me you're never happy unless you're having a moan.
MC Prussian Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 WTF did they bring that up for? Firstly, we're not Swansea. We're nothing like Swansea. Secondly, well yeh, of course the crowd will be bigger for games against Forest etc. Why would we want to reduce the crowd? God I really fvcking hate them. They're just massive, massive cvnts. Wow. I understand that you don't have to agree with everything the club does or doesn't, but dishing out unwarranted insults of that scale...? Really? If this really grinds your gears, get active, get involved and challenge the club officially.
StanSP Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Kitchandro, that is quite harsh given they have done a fair bit to please us fans already. I'm sure you don't mean it so vociferously. Maybe you might but I imagine you'll be in the minority i.e. 1. Maybe 2.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Tbf he's got a point, they completely over charge the fans for championship football and insist on no atmosphere what's so ever.
Leicester Lass Posted 28 February 2014 Author Posted 28 February 2014 Tbf he's got a point, they completely over charge the fans for championship football and insist on no atmosphere what's so ever. Atmosphere is to do with people in the stadium, nothing to do with the people in charge of the club. They're actually very welcoming to new ideas on how to improve the atmosphere, so feel free to volunteer any ideas (I'm sure you've got plenty) and I'll gladly take them to the next meeting for you.
Strokes Posted 28 February 2014 Posted 28 February 2014 Kitch the club has to make money out of the fans in order to compete, change the system, fight the FA/Football league but dont kill the club. They do seem to be at least trying, better than any ownership i can remember.
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