teblin Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leicester-city/10521677/Leicester-City-striker-Jamie-Vardy-is-relishing-taking-on-Manchester-City-in-the-Capital-One-Cup.html
Dickov22 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Good article. Shame he won't start tonight. I'd love is just to go for it and play our strongest 11.
Stadt Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 It must be unbelievable for him, playing non-league and then two seasons later playing Man City.
indierich06 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 You always get the feeling he had a bit of a chequered past, he looks a bit of a ruffian. Think he's had to up his game a lot since moving here, like he says - defenders are so much more intelligent at this level. It's one thing dealing with a 6"6 brick shithouse who's trying to kick lumps out of you, it's another thing dealing with a super-fit, intelligent athlete who is anticipating your every move. I genuinely think he's improved considerably for his experiences with us last season. If he starts playing with a bit more of a swagger and being a bit more selfish, we could have a real player on our hands.
Unabomber Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Nice article, I hope some of the people who slagged him off last season read it so they can grasp at least a little of what the ridiculous step up must have been like.
Bayfox Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Good on him for sticking up for his mate, if that's the true story. He has improved 10 fold since last season, never doubt his work rate, but was never sure he had the quality to go with it, but he has obviously learnt, spent the summer working on things and is clearly happy at having a crack at a decent career after he thought it may have been lost. However, that header.....
Ric Flair Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 He's imperitive to our play with his non-stop work rate. We defend from the front but sadly at the back right now is where we're at our weakest. Who'd have thought with the defenders we've got that we'd be this vulnerable?
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 I've heard that he actually did time for that assault which is why he's got a bit of a gap in his career. The tag probably came upon release. I've also heard that he used to like a bit of a scrap on a night out and that the birth of his daughter is the main thing that made him hit the straight and narrow which is when he started to get somewhere with his football.
Hitesh Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Good article and nice to see he's getting some deserved recognition. My worry is that he seems to be a confidence player and as soon as things don't go his way his form drops, although I'm sure he's learnt a lot over the last 12 months to cope with that. Hope he does play tonight. He is the type of striker we've been missing for a while over the last few years - never gives up the fight. Something we probably haven't had consistently since Paul Dickov (first time round)
Lionator Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 He's imperitive to our play with his non-stop work rate. We defend from the front but sadly at the back right now is where we're at our weakest. Who'd have thought with the defenders we've got that we'd be this vulnerable? Hardly say we're vulnerable, just down on confidence.
Dan Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Hardly say we're vulnerable, just down on confidence. 5 clean sheets in all competitions says otherwise. Our defence is still unconvincing. Vardy's done really well this year. Intelligent mover with a ridiculous amount of pace and energy, and although he's prone to a poor miss, he's scored some very decent goals too. Fair play I suppose. Think we're finally getting our money's worth.
lgfualol Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 That story about his mate gave me even more respect for him. Hope he goes on to do great things with us.
Monsell1976 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Nice article, I hope some of the people who slagged him off last season read it so they can grasp at least a little of what the ridiculous step up must have been like.I slated him last season, and still don't think he is a striker in this league, but offers the team a lot with his pace and work rate.Everybody knew the step up was massive, and for me he should have been looked after better by the management, introduced gradually, not thrown in at the deep end, he was playing every week and he wasn't ready. Then credit to the lad, whilst the other players broke for summer, he worked on building himself up and put in the hard work, which he is now reaping the rewards. I have my views on him as a striker and believe he's to wastful to be relied on the get the goals we need, but played out wide, like I believe he was at fleet wood I think he could be a good provider of chances, my thoughts and opinions.
Matt Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 I slated him last season, and still don't think he is a striker in this league, but offers the team a lot with his pace and work rate. Everybody knew the step up was massive, and for me he should have been looked after better by the management, introduced gradually, not thrown in at the deep end, he was playing every week and he wasn't ready. Then credit to the lad, whilst the other players broke for summer, he worked on building himself up and put in the hard work, which he is now reaping the rewards. I have my views on him as a striker and believe he's to wastful to be relied on the get the goals we need, but played out wide, like I believe he was at fleet wood I think he could be a good provider of chances, my thoughts and opinions. What does that say about the rest of our strikeforce then, he is arguably our best (all round) striker at the moment. I pretty much agree with everything you've said though, apart from I do think he is a striker in this league. I take back everything I said about the lad, for once someone has proved me wrong for the critisism I gave and I am more than happy to admit that, I didn't want to slag him off or to fail but last season he was not good enough and I wasn't going to sit there and accept that - I understood he needed time to settle and adjust but it looked like he'd never played that game before - Totally different story this year.
indierich06 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 What does that say about the rest of our strikeforce then, he is arguably our best (all round) striker at the moment. I pretty much agree with everything you've said though, apart from I do think he is a striker in this league. I take back everything I said about the lad, for once someone has proved me wrong for the critisism I gave and I am more than happy to admit that, I didn't want to slag him off or to fail but last season he was not good enough and I wasn't going to sit there and accept that - I understood he needed time to settle and adjust but it looked like he'd never played that game before - Totally different story this year. Don't think he was anywhere near as bad as you're making him out to be last season.
Matt Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Don't think he was anywhere near as bad as you're making him out to be last season. Fair enough, your opinion v my opinion, you're more than welcome to your's and I respect that. He certainly wasn't worthy of getting into the starting 11 like he persistently was early season anyway IMO. But let's draw a line under it, he's a different player this year.
Unabomber Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 I slated him last season, and still don't think he is a striker in this league, but offers the team a lot with his pace and work rate. Everybody knew the step up was massive, and for me he should have been looked after better by the management, introduced gradually, not thrown in at the deep end, he was playing every week and he wasn't ready. Then credit to the lad, whilst the other players broke for summer, he worked on building himself up and put in the hard work, which he is now reaping the rewards. I have my views on him as a striker and believe he's to wastful to be relied on the get the goals we need, but played out wide, like I believe he was at fleet wood I think he could be a good provider of chances, my thoughts and opinions. If it was the fault of the management then why slate him? What was he meant to do, say "thanks for selecting me boss but I'm not ready and will sit this one out" When you think how long the rest of our squad has been playing in this league or higher, it was bound to take him at least a season maybe more to get used to the pace and quality. I think the fans being behind him this season has had a big impact on the way he is playing. He just needs some more confidence in front of goal to really push on now.
Monsell1976 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 If it was the fault of the management then why slate him? What was he meant to do, say "thanks for selecting me boss but I'm not ready and will sit this one out" When you think how long the rest of our squad has been playing in this league or higher, it was bound to take him at least a season maybe more to get used to the pace and quality. I think the fans being behind him this season has had a big impact on the way he is playing. He just needs some more confidence in front of goal to really push on now. When I say slating him, I was frustrated at his control, finish, and would state he shouldn't be in the side.I think we can all agree he wasn't ready last season, and if we all saw that why didn't the management, as the kid got all the moans and groans that he wouldn't probably have got, if he was introduced gradually. So if vardy was pushed into the firing line week in week out, when it was clear he wasn't up to it, of course he was going to get some slating. Vardy is probably playing at the best level he can at present, and is full of confidence, so to say he needs confidence in front of goal isn't for me a valid argument, you are either a good clinical finisher or your not by the time you get to his age. But as I said credit to the lad for the improvement, but him and nugent are not clinical enough, and both have been wasteful, but we know nugent can be clinical, but I personally don't think vardy will ever have that quality consistently.
Dickov22 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 I slated him last season, and still don't think he is a striker in this league, but offers the team a lot with his pace and work rate. Everybody knew the step up was massive, and for me he should have been looked after better by the management, introduced gradually, not thrown in at the deep end, he was playing every week and he wasn't ready. Then credit to the lad, whilst the other players broke for summer, he worked on building himself up and put in the hard work, which he is now reaping the rewards. I have my views on him as a striker and believe he's to wastful to be relied on the get the goals we need, but played out wide, like I believe he was at fleet wood I think he could be a good provider of chances, my thoughts and opinions. You havent got a clue pal - He started really well last season, then started going out in Leicester, drinking too much, listening to the fans criticisms on Twitter, lost his confidence, and his form nose dived. Nothing to do with the management infact quite the opposite - they gave him another chance, he's sorted himself out and we are seeing the benefits this season. I spoke to a mate who captained Chasetown - he said Vardy is the best player he's every played against non league - also said he was good on the wing during the game, then moved upfont and scored a hat trick in 15 mins
Monsell1976 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 You havent got a clue pal - He started really well last season, then started going out in Leicester, drinking too much, listening to the fans criticisms on Twitter, lost his confidence, and his form nose dived. Nothing to do with the management infact quite the opposite - they gave him another chance, he's sorted himself out and we are seeing the benefits this season. I spoke to a mate who captained Chasetown - he said Vardy is the best player he's every played against non league - also said he was good on the wing during the game, then moved upfont and scored a hat trick in 15 mins I haven't got a clue, ok i know nothing about football, and you know it all.I will stop sharing my views as I clearly know **** all, and because you have all the knowledge and a mate who play against him in the non league. Vardy probably was the best player in the non league, or why else would a team pay a million pounds for him, and he started ok here, but was terrible in front of goal, and his control was appalling, but as I know **** all, his loss of form has to be down to boozing and twitter. So before saying people know nothing maybe respect others opinions, my opinion was I thought more could have been done to introduce in gradually, so he didn't lose his confidence, and maybe be used as a bit part player last season, as a slow introduction would have benefited vardy more, but sorry I forgot I don't know anything about football. And if he wants to go out boozing and hasn't got thick enough skin to take criticism, maybe he has more learning to do.
Monsell1976 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 dickov is correct in what he says thoughOk I was wrong it's twitters fault, and if all else fails blame the fans
Dickov22 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 I haven't got a clue, ok i know nothing about football, and you know it all. I will stop sharing my views as I clearly know **** all, and because you have all the knowledge and a mate who play against him in the non league. Vardy probably was the best player in the non league, or why else would a team pay a million pounds for him, and he started ok here, but was terrible in front of goal, and his control was appalling, but as I know **** all, his loss of form has to be down to boozing and twitter. So before saying people know nothing maybe respect others opinions, my opinion was I thought more could have been done to introduce in gradually, so he didn't lose his confidence, and maybe be used as a bit part player last season, as a slow introduction would have benefited vardy more, but sorry I forgot I don't know anything about football. And if he wants to go out boozing and hasn't got thick enough skin to take criticism, maybe he has more learning to do. Wow! Chill. My comment was more aimed at your criticism of the management and their role in ruining Jaime Vardy. Not true.
Monsell1976 Posted 17 December 2013 Posted 17 December 2013 Wow! Chill. My comment was more aimed at your criticism of the management and their role in ruining Jaime Vardy. Not true. am chilled now, not having the best of days and you got a bit, my bad.Not saying they ruined him, but I think they could have integrated him better, as the step up was massive, and playing him week in week out, when he clearly wasn't ready couldn't have done the lad any good. Your point is valid that if he is going out and reading twitter it couldn't do his confidence any good, and that is part of the learning in stepping up levels. But my personnel opinion like I say is that being a bit part player would helped with the step up, and not have a negative affect on him, if you don't agree, we will have to agree to disagree😀
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