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well they will get their contacts sorted now and will they be happy to stay on the same contract if they get promoted? no chance they will be banging down the door for a large pay raise, dont know why there moaning, its dammed if you do dammed if you dont,

im not leicester fan but this is so unproffesional coming out in public, its basically trying to scare monger the fans into getting on the clubs back, get on with your football and wait untill the summer, if you get promoted you will want a different contract anyway.

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I swear this kind of story comes out every few days now. It's not a great situation but it hasn't affected us so far. Can you blame the owners for not wanting to extend some of the ridiculous contracts there will be?

 

Surely players know that if they perform as they have been and we get promoted that they will get new contracts and probably even a pay rise and bonuses? I would have thought many have a substantial promotion bonus in their contract already. 

 

But as has rightly been said, we can do little as fans to affect this situation. Clearly the club isn't happy with the money many players are on and the players themselves aren't willing to take a paycut. It's a hard situation in all honesty

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For some players who only have short contracts remaining, the prospect of promotion is almost a perverse incentive. Those players would realise they may not fit into plans for a premiership team, so of course some will be apprehensive. I am not suggesting however that Wes fit's into that category, just a general observation.

This.

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For some players who only have short contracts remaining, the prospect of promotion is almost a perverse incentive. Those players would realise they may not fit into plans for a premiership team, so of course some will be apprehensive. I am not suggesting however that Wes fit's into that category, just a general observation. 

thats the way that ims seeing it get in the premiership more money higher wages if your good enough if not build a new team or get sensible wages for championship players 

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it's a no brainer, perform and you'll get another contract with us or someone else. don't perform, or show yourself to be a complainer and you'll get a worse contract with someone else.

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Wes really needs to grow up surely he must realise anything the club would offer now would be an insult to what the club would want to offer him at the end of the season, any of the players who are taking this personally and want to leave the club at the end of the season on principal need to wake up and realise this will be in their own benefit to hang on not just the club.

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Wes, tell your agent you would be happy with a 4k per week contract and the offer will be with you in no time. I know 200k per year is a laughable salary, but you'll get used to it. You can always save money by bringing a packed lunch in or using leftovers from the Sunday roast to make a tasty AND affordable stew of a Monday.

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Wes, tell your agent you would be happy with a 4k per week contract and the offer will be with you in no time. I know 200k per year is a laughable salary, but you'll get used to it. You can always save money by bringing a packed lunch in or using leftovers from the Sunday roast to make a tasty AND affordable stew of a Monday.

If he wears a uniform to work he will also get a tax rebate

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If we scrape under FFP with an £8m loss this year. Next year I think we can only make a loss of £2.5m (need to double check that).

Which means we will need to save around £5.5m, which will mean we are going to have to lose some of our biggest earners.

6 of the 11 will cover some if that, but not all. That can be the only reason for not dishing out contracts.

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Is Wes that daft, he knows he's on a salary that cannot be maintained in the championship, contract neg. are on hold untill we know whether we will be in the prem, scaremongering is not the way forward.  

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He's minted and if any of us were able to play football for a living on 10% of what he gets wed go for it... man up and win the league... if you're that hard up turn your heating down

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If we scrape under FFP with an £8m loss this year. Next year I think we can only make a loss of £2.5m (need to double check that).

Which means we will need to save around £5.5m, which will mean we are going to have to lose some of our biggest earners.

6 of the 11 will cover some if that, but not all. That can be the only reason for not dishing out contracts.

IF we get promoted, all of this will become inconsequential.   I'm surprised Wes doesn't know what you've written, we cannot afford his salary in the champoinsip

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the cheek of these guys. wes you've hardly been stellar recently. maybe put it to the back of your mind and concentrate on the one thing that will guarantee you a new contract, getting us promoted.

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They're all under contract until the end of the season so everybody should just chill out, especially the players. They can't force themselves out until June anyway.

People worried about losing them for nothing in June need to realise that between the 4 of them they're probably only worth a combined £3-4 million at the moment anyway. The club has next to no incentive to sell.

If the players' attitudes are right then this is not a problem. For them it's win-win:

1) We get promoted - Premier League promotion bonus for all of them I'd have thought and very probably a fat new PL contract.

2) We don't get promoted and they are offered a new deal - Either take it or leave it - these are top-end Championship players we're talking about, there must be 75 professional clubs who'd offer any of them a deal.

3) We don't get promoted and they aren't offered a new deal - As discussed above, just sign for somebody else. Also, there would be no transfer fee so you'd get a tasty signing bonus.

Footballers are effectively contractors. Kicking up a fuss 3/4 of the way into your contract (in Morgan's case) that you haven't been offered a new one would be met with a polite "go away" in any other work sphere.

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You'd have thought that players performing so well in successful team would have sufficient confidence in their own abilty to know they'll easily get a new contract at the end of the season either with lcfc or some other championship team. Of course it wont be as lucrative as their current one unless it's with a pl team.

So they should knuckle down, get us promoted and show all prospective employers how valuable they are. A promotion on their cv wnt do themany harm either.

Also, he's saying "we want to keep the same set of boys", which is almost entirely irrelevant to discussions about new contracts happening now.

The club is under no obligation to sell any of these players until June if they don't get offered new deals. This seems like a pretty thinly veiled threat that people are going to start agitating for moves elsewhere in this transfer window unless something is done and frankly that's disappointing given the position we're in.

I still don't understand why a new contract can't be offered to these guys with a ridiculous promotion bonus payable over the duration of their contracts. It's worth noting that promotion bonuses are exempt from FFP.

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Any contract offered is going to be reduced, surely having players falling out over contract negotiations is going to be more damaging than a small group of players coming to the end of their contracts and playing out of their skins for promotion and the riches of the premier league. I wouldn't be surprised to read later that he has been misquoted or taken out of context, I'm sure the quote attributed to Pearson is an old one from weeks back.

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Surprised we haven't offered our key players contracts along the lines of:

 

(a) if we get promoted they get a rise of X% on what they're currently on;

(b) if we don't go up, the player can stay but on X% less than what they're currently on (FFP); and

© if we don't go up, the player can walk away if he thinks he can get more than the number in (b).

 

End of the day, you can have a contract say whatever you want and getting them signed up on conditions gives safety to the club and the player that they're wanted.

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You'd have thought that players performing so well in successful team would have sufficient confidence in their own abilty to know they'll easily get a new contract at the end of the season either with lcfc or some other championship team. Of course it wont be as lucrative as their current one unless it's with a pl team.

So they should knuckle down, get us promoted and show all prospective employers how valuable they are. A promotion on their cv wnt do themany harm either.

I'm sure they know they will get a contract somewhere, what they don't know is whether they would be fit to get one.

If you knew an injury could put you out for a year or so, then you would want some time on your contract.

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If we scrape under FFP with an £8m loss this year. Next year I think we can only make a loss of £2.5m (need to double check that).

Which means we will need to save around £5.5m, which will mean we are going to have to lose some of our biggest earners.

6 of the 11 will cover some if that, but not all. That can be the only reason for not dishing out contracts.

I know you have been saying this for a while and now you're putting figures out there so will treat them with respect, my guessamat was around £2 to £3 this season which leaves wiggle room, but if your correct it not good,

Opps misread that the figures are the FFP ONES not the clubs

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