Danno Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Danny Mills was ok, merited his place as 2nd choice right back. Smalling is a pub player, nowhere near good enough for any national side at this World Cup.A pub player . Really? Rubbish.
indierich06 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I know a few eyebrows have been raised by Lampard's inclusion, but I think it's quite an astute move to be honest. That squad is hardly packed with leaders and experience - Lampard's got big tournament experience and he will be a massive help to the young players in the squad, as well as the less-experienced older players. If you leave out Lampard, in terms of leaders and strong personalities in that squad, you've got Hart and Gerrard, and that's it. I see it as a similar kind of move to when Pearson brought in Powell/Phillips/Hammond - they're not going to be playing an awful lot, but they're invaluable to the less experienced players behind the scenes.
Buzzell Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Hart Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines Gerrard Wilshire Sterling Rooney Lallana Sturridge
Babylon Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 How does everyone think we should line up then? I reckon: Hart Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines Gerrard Wilshere Sterling Barkley Lallana Sturridge OR Hart Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines Gerrard Sterling Barkley Wilshere Rooney Sturridge I'd go for your first team, but he won't sack Rooney off sadly.
Jimothy Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 A pub player . Really? Rubbish. Ok maybe a bit harsh, but he's well off the standard.
65RosesFox Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 This is hardly a suprise is it, they might be shit but we have nothing better, Hodgson loves Welbeck and Wilshere is was always going to go. We have a lot better defenders than Smalling and Jones who have been playing first team football this season and consistently playing well ie - curtis davies, michael dawson, gibbs, caulker, flanagan, stones. I'd have more faith in any of them over jones or smalling. How can you justify picking two players that have been bit part players for the 7th best team in the Prem.
Danno Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Ok maybe a bit harsh, but he's well off the standard.He's a decent premier league defender. If he played for Cardiff or someone people would be going on about what a talent he is.
Wycombe Fox Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Can someone please knobble Jones a bit more so that Stones comes in?
kingcarr21 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 He's a decent premier league defender. If he played for Cardiff or someone people would be going on about what a talent he is. no matter what team he would play in it wouldnt change the fact that his performances this season have been awful. Absolute horseshit.
65RosesFox Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Why are people putting a team together with Wilshere as a holding midfielder, he is far from that. He's far too over rated, not fully match fit yet, hardly featured this season and doesn't deserve to go. His form has never really improved Over the seasons since the hype, and there are better defensive midfielders who i'd prefer to rely on who have been consistently performing this season. One being Gareth Barry. Yes he's not got flair or will do anything amazing but that's not the job of a defensive midfielder.
Danno Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 no matter what team he would play in it wouldnt change the fact that his performances this season have been awful. Absolute horseshit. Yeah so bad he consistently gets picked in a premier league starting eleven.
indierich06 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I'd go for your first team, but he won't sack Rooney off sadly. I'd love it if we lined up like that, but you're right - I can't see him binning off Rooney. I just wish for once we'd pick our best team, rather than packing a side with talented players who just don't function well together. Rooney's never done anything of note in a big tournament, other than get himself sent off and prove what a petulant child he is. Euro 2012 proved that we're capable of winning games without him and in Sturridge we've actually got a proper goalscorer in the side now - he's obviously talented, but I just don't see a place for him.
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I know its not a surprise, I'd have probably taken Jones just for his versatility. Also I'd have took Barry (I know) because he's played well with Barkley and has had a decent season, he would be a sub/back up. In terms of defence, Flanagan and/or Cole as they've had better seasons than Smalling and Jones. I really don't think that Wilshere has merited a world cup place at all and Welbeck just annoys me. I just had hope that Hodgson would oversee them Shame about Cole but if your not playing you can't really be in contention and they've named two left backs we don't need a third. Smalling and Jones are versatile and have more international experience than Flanagan. Wilshere has been picked on his supposed talent and I agree about Welbeck but Woy worships him so always going to go.
indierich06 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Why are people putting a team together with Wilshere as a holding midfielder, he is far from that. He's far too over rated, not fully match fit yet, hardly featured this season and doesn't deserve to go. His form has never really improved Over the seasons since the hype, and there are better defensive midfielders who i'd prefer to rely on who have been consistently performing this season. One being Gareth Barry. Yes he's not got flair or will do anything amazing but that's not the job of a defensive midfielder. I certainly don't envisage him as a holding midfielder in my lineups. I would have him playing more of a Danny Drinkwater role, along with Gerrard.
kingcarr21 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Yeah so bad he consistently gets picked in a premier league starting eleven. yeah and consistently plays shit.
AKCJ Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Would this be the B team? Forster Johnson Smalling Jones Shaw Milner Henderson Lampard Oxlade Lambert Welbeck
kingcarr21 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Would this be the B team? Forster Johnson Smalling Jones Shaw Milner Henderson Lampard Oxlade Lambert Welbeck Foster for Forster Wilshere for Henderson That would then be my B team
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 I'd love it if we lined up like that, but you're right - I can't see him binning off Rooney. I just wish for once we'd pick our best team, rather than packing a side with talented players who just don't function well together. Rooney's never done anything of note in a big tournament, other than get himself sent off and prove what a petulant child he is. Euro 2012 proved that we're capable of winning games without him and in Sturridge we've actually got a proper goalscorer in the side now - he's obviously talented, but I just don't see a place for him. That's not true is it, he was sublime at Euro 2004. Granted that was 10 years ago and he's done nothing since. In his defense he was injured in 2010 and banned for half 2012. I'd play him still. More in hope than expectation but at the end of the day he is one of our best players.
kingcarr21 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 Great stuff. So do you actually believe he has played good enough this season to warrant a place in the England squad for a major tournament?
Danno Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 So do you actually believe he has played good enough this season to warrant a place in the England squad for a major tournament?Can't think of any centre back apart from those selected, maybe Stones but he's only been playing consistently for about 3 months.
indierich06 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 So do you actually believe he has played good enough this season to warrant a place in the England squad for a major tournament? Who else would you pick? Stones has only been playing consistently well recently. Unfortunately, we're a bit shit at CB at the minute.
Fox92 Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 The right midfielder will be Milner. Don't get why other people are predicting anything different. He's an automatic choice because Roy is defensive and boring. The attackers list, apart from Rooney, is depressing. As is the defenders list. I still would have taken Cole who remains better defensively than Baines and Shaw. And I would have taken Carrick, I know he's had a poor season but he holds the ball well and knows how to find a player with a pass.
Jon the Hat Posted 12 May 2014 Posted 12 May 2014 GK Hart RB Johnson CB Cahill CB Jagielka LB Baines DM Gerrard DM Henderson RM Sterling ACM Rooney LM Lallana ST Sturridge Same.
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