DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Lescott would be a fine capture, but certain comments seem a little ironic, with regard to wages. If we wish to establish ourselves, then we will HAVE to have some quality players, and their wages will be much higher. The Championship, then fair enough, but the big money comes by competing in the Premiership, which our owners obviously want. No investment in quality players, then it will be hello Championship again, and probably more years of frustration.
Captain... Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 All promoted teams have the same dilemma, a £60 million pound budget, this is the first season it has been so high and we saw how Holloway handled it at Palace, badly, he bought 16 (I think) players in the summer, one of them left almost straight away as he didn't actually get into the 24 man premier league squad as they had too many players spending around £27million over the season on 21 players Cardiff have spent close to £40million on 13 players, including £8mill on Caulker, £11Mill on Medel, and an undisclosed £10+million on Cornelius, I'm sure they are paying a fair bit for Zaha too. Hull have done the best of the 3 promoted clubs, but still brought in 12 players this season, +3 loans, biggest outlay £7mill for Long, £6mill for Jelavic, spent around the same as Palace £27mill Swansea spent £22M with £12M on Bony Southampton spent £35M, £13M on Osvaldo and £12M on Wanyama Fulham spent £26M Sunderland spent £30M Norwich spent £26M You get my point, take into account that alot of these transfers were undisclosed so they are most likely all a lot higher than the reported amount. These will be the teams we will be competing with if we get promoted, they will be spending another £20-£30M next season and that is just transfer fee, not including signing on fees and wages, every team will make every penny available to ensure survival. As much as I think NP is a very shrewd operator in the Transfer Market, and I think this squad will do ok with only a couple more quality additions, if we want to make quality signings we have to pay prem wages. Spending £6M on Lescott for a year is very much within our budget.
Happy Fox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 The Thais don't want us to make the numbers they want us to be competitive at that level, top 10 for starters imo, and then from their who knows?
volpeazzurro Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Was an excellent player, but have you not seen him on his few games for City this year... Woeful, including against us. Not worth it for even a half the wages he's on, sooner stick with what we've got.
Captain... Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Definitely. People are underestimating the owners we have. How much do you think they were paying Everton a week for yakubu What the owners have becomes irrelevant, and the fact that we have no debt to them, they can't use our promotion, should it happen, as a way of recouping their money. We are guaranteed a minimum of over £60 million in Prize money and TV money. This doesn't include extra revenue for tickets and everything else that comes with promotion (with another £60M guaranteed in parachute payments) we could easily get another £10M on top of that if we finish above bottom and get a couple more sky games and a couple of decent cup runs. If we get promoted the owners shouldn't have to dip into their pockets unless we are in real trouble and they sack NP and bring in a new manager and bankroll him through January.
sylofox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 What the owners have becomes irrelevant, and the fact that we have no debt to them, they can't use our promotion, should it happen, as a way of recouping their money. We are guaranteed a minimum of over £60 million in Prize money and TV money. This doesn't include extra revenue for tickets and everything else that comes with promotion (with another £60M guaranteed in parachute payments) we could easily get another £10M on top of that if we finish above bottom and get a couple more sky games and a couple of decent cup runs. If we get promoted the owners shouldn't have to dip into their pockets unless we are in real trouble and they sack NP and bring in a new manager and bankroll him through January. Yes they could. Spend nothing of the 60mil show a 50mil proffit at the end of the season. Then as share holders take a cut of the proffit and doing nothing wrong. However I don't see them doing that as we would come straight back down. But that would not really help them as to clear the debit they would need us strong in the prem and to sell us. Even so to get 103mil back we would praps need a couple of years in the CL to be worth that sort of money.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 I'm sorry but this is a bloody embarrassing thread Can't we just wait until we are actually promoted as there is a long way to go yet This sort of thread makes is look like arrogant knobs Please close it ASAP
Captain... Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 I'm sorry but this is a bloody embarrassing thread Can't we just wait until we are actually promoted as there is a long way to go yet This sort of thread makes is look like arrogant knobs Please close it ASAP Can't see anyone being arrogant in this thread, most people saying he wouldn't come, or that we couldn't afford him, and most people prefixing their comments with a big IF. All I have been saying is that any promoted club will get an extra £60M minium, so if we did get promoted we could easily afford him, if he became a target. The only embarassing post in this thread is the one I just quoted...
kingfox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 He would be a good signing, and it will show some intention that we mean business. You could say wages maybe a problem with many targets, we may have if we go up. Whatever happens, we need a centre back with Premier League experience, it will be vital to our chances.
fuchsntf Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 He's on £85000 a week........ Close thread So am I.....but you still let me post.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 There's plenty of decent CB's who will be going down this season, and will want to jump ship. Caulker from Cardiff, Bassong from Norwich, Hangelland, Heitinga, Wes Brown, O'Shea, Olson, Lugano to name a few who could. These will want significantly less than Lescott.
Guest Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 I'm sorry but this is a bloody embarrassing thread Can't we just wait until we are actually promoted as there is a long way to go yet This sort of thread makes is look like arrogant knobs Please close it ASAP Yep, agree with this. Let's get up first then start worrying about potential signings.
Captain... Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 There's plenty of decent CB's who will be going down this season, and will want to jump ship. Caulker from Cardiff, Bassong from Norwich, Hangelland, Heitinga, Wes Brown, O'Shea, Olson, Lugano to name a few who could. These will want significantly less than Lescott. But will require a transfer fee in most cases, Cardiff paid over £8M for Caulker, plus wages and signing on fee. A 2 year deal for Lescott even on those wages, would be cheaper than spending that on Caulker and giving him 40K a week. The only reason this would be a viable option is that he is out of contract, and out of favour.
Karljohn Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Was an excellent player, but have you not seen him on his few games for City this year... Woeful, including against us. Not worth it for even a half the wages he's on, sooner stick with what we've got. Sensible post.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 I'm sorry but this is a bloody embarrassing thread Can't we just wait until we are actually promoted as there is a long way to go yet This sort of thread makes is look like arrogant knobs Please close it ASAP Sorry, but I think you are being daft. Where is the arrogance? Why close asap? It is merely a discussion on what MIGHT be.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 But will require a transfer fee in most cases, Cardiff paid over £8M for Caulker, plus wages and signing on fee. A 2 year deal for Lescott even on those wages, would be cheaper than spending that on Caulker and giving him 40K a week. The only reason this would be a viable option is that he is out of contract, and out of favour. Good shout.
CPW22 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 He would be a very good singing IMO. Not sure he would take the gamble of joining a newly promoted team should we go up? Wages would concern me but no doubt that Moore could learn a lot from him.
Charl91 Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 If any other club's fans are reading this, they're going to think we're deluded.
shade Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 If any other club's fans are reading this, they're going to think we're deluded. who cares, they're just jealous because we might get Ronaldo and Messi.
Captain... Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 If any other club's fans are reading this, they're going to think we're deluded. What is deluded or embarassing about discussing a transfer rumour from an external source? It is not like one of us has said we should go for Lescott, it is a discussion on the back of Ladbrokes suggesting he should chose us for his next club. It's not embarassing or deluded to discuss things, speculate, considering a lot of the crap that gets written I think this thread is pretty down to earth.
Donut Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 The potential signing of Lescott to me would be a sensible one. Calculated risk, bags of experience and would be very capable for us.
Jace Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 Is anyone else struggling to imagine Pearson signing up a player for more than £20,000 pw and a Ford Focus for an annual performance bonus contract?
Salieri Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 The Thais don't want us to make the numbers they want us to be competitive at that level, top 10 for starters imo, and then from their who knows? You don't half talk some guff. The Thais are realistic and i'm sure would be delighted just to stay up in our first season. The gulf between the Championship and Premier League is massive so avoiding relegation and the chance to build from there would be seen as a successful first season.
Buzzell Posted 17 February 2014 Posted 17 February 2014 The Thais don't want us to make the numbers they want us to be competitive at that level, top 10 for starters imo, and then from their who knows?
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