_Fatboyslow_ Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 For me he's a star, cracking player who gives 100% when asked and accepts his role in the squad. You can only admire him for his professional attitude. If he chooses to move on then all the best to him. If he stays then I am sure he will do his best and I for one will respect what ever he decides
Bryn Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 No chance, he knows he's on for 10-15 games in the Premier League next season.
Dan Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Very good player who happens to be unlucky in the fact he has better players in his position. Javier Hernandez if you like.
AdamN Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 The fact he isn't in the team isn't so much a slight on King but a testament to how well Drinkwater and James have done together. He'll still have a part to play, but for now he just needs to bide his time and wait for his next chance to come.
Gubbins Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 It will obviously be much tougher in the premier league and as his career here has shown us, when the going gets tough in midfield king is no where to be seen ( apparently if you watch him closely though he's doing "amazing off the ball work") Even if we are playing with 3 in midfield itl be much too difficult in the prem to get a result with a player who vanishes for long stretches. He'd definitely be a player I'd be looking to replace.
LC/FC Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 I think it's short sighted to make presumptions on a players ability in a league before a single second has been played. I mean we all have our own personal opinions and I understand that's because we all have our own perspective and viewpoints but apart from a few, the entire team is untested in the Premiership. Who's to say the starting 11 we field now as well as our current formation won't change in half a years time? That's a different challenge for next year and we have the summer to dwell on that. Still have 3 more months of this season to go lads! Some of us may find that come a year down the line this thread may be brought up and some us will be eating crow but that's beside the point beyond petty argument. As for Kingy, whether or not he plays, he has one invaluable skill that is practically priceless in the prem and that is a knack for scoring a goal. Whether its driving from deep, 20 yard free kick, scuffing it off his heal or something stupendously magical that does makes us all think "Take a bow son!" And "if" next season he gets a good run and maybe gets 10-15 goals a season once again would we still be wanting him shipped out? Maybe we could field all 3 of Drinkwater, James and King with the Guppy role reserved for a Frenchman with superb tricky as the outlet to replace the pinpoint accuracy of Steve's blessed left foot. All I'm saying is, like a few others, academy product that stuck through bad times and has come really good, matured into a good player and plays for the badge finally gets a chance to play on the biggest stage with the club he grew up with during its darkest moments should get a chance to show what him and the club can do for our kids like we once did with great Leicester City academy products. Sorry to go a bit Thracian on things but its a matter of club pride aswell to prove that you've got the youngers and future as much as anything else and a quick fix isn't beneficial to anyone in the long run if you build things on loyalty rather than greed. He's been loyal enough that I would forever keep him in a Leicester City shirt for life just to show the future Stearmans, Sheehans and Mattocks of the world that the grass is not always greener.
muzzy1981 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Kingys a great squad player because when given a chance he does the business, which o think he will do in the prem. Maybe a more experienced DM prem player to replace hammond but Kingys won't leave. He deserves it for being a top lad for years
LCCFox96 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Centre-midfield is the one area where we are really strong, and don’t need strengthening – so I doubt that we would buy any more centre-midfielders if (when) we go up. It would be madness not to strengthen be in centre midfield if we go up! It's a key area of the pitch to control if you want to win games. Our two starting guys and King are all very good but we need someone whose experienced, scores goals and has a couple season PL experience under his belt. A Kevin Nolan style player would be choice - Hull's acquisition of Huddlestone is exactly what we should look to recreate. One addition would do it though. Don't need to over spend or cram that area.
JmorsonLCFC Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 him and dyer were there when we were shit, would love to see both in a leicester prem strip
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 him and dyer were there when we were shit, would love to see both in a leicester prem stripWell said that man
Stadt Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 It'd be great if he does play loads in the prem and he's really good for us because he'll be an actual proper club legend. I thought of an idea for a flag with King on, it'd probably be better when he's played more games and scored more goals though, ideally when he's in the twilight of his career and still here. Something like: (made up numbers,hopefully he gets that many goals and appearances) 2 times a champion 108 times a hero 523 times A.King (With picture)
Iwan is a Welshman Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Love the guy. I think he could do a job up there. Been unlucky this year.
Simonb Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Centre-midfield is the one area where we are really strong, and don’t need strengthening – so I doubt that we would buy any more centre-midfielders if (when) we go up. King has been unfortunate. He was too often forced to play the defensive midfield role for which he is not well equipped. I think we would be doing just as well if we had been playing James and King, rather than James and Drinkwater. The problem is always when Drinkwater and King play together. I actually think that James and King may be our first-choice midfield pair in the Prem. King has a level of skill that means he may make the step up to the Prem a lot easier than some of our other players. we'll bring in a prem experience solid ball winning midfielder
inckley fox Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 1. He's not a defensive midfielder 2. He doesn't pull out of tackles, he just doesn't go full-blooded into them. He's very clever a getting a knick on the ball or holding up the opposition allowing the defence to reorganise. 3. Questioning the tactical/mental side of his game is ludicrous. His off the ball work is exceptional. He is rightly out of the team at the moment as Drinky and James have been excellent but I'd be very surprised if he wasn't in Pearson's long-term plan. I can't see us signing more than 1 central midfielder in the summer so that means its likely he will still be an important part of the team. 1. Pearson's words shortly after he took over from Sven were 'we're asking Andy King to play a more defensive role now'. He was the attacking edge of the diamond under Sven in early 11-12, and had been an attacking midfielder in a five man midfield the season before that, but if you've seen him play in the past two seasons you'll be well aware that he sits deeper than his midfield partner and builds from deep. And it's not as if he's a box-to-box midfielder so, yes, I'd say he has been utilised principally as a defensive midfielder for most of the past three seasons. 2. 'He doesn't pull out of tackles'. You clearly don't remember the play-off semis last year, when he allowed his man to breeze past him in the dying seconds. His reluctance to tackle, which had already manifested itself countless times over the years, helped seal the end of our promotion challenge. If you haven't spotted that side of his game then you really can't have been paying much attention. 3. It's 'ludicrous' to question the 'mental' or 'tactical' side of his game, is it? So, according to you and a few of the others on this thread, he's one of the best ten midfielders in the division, a 'clever' tackler, excellent tactically, super-intelligent, a great passer of the ball and is more likely to be our first choice midfielder next season than Drinkwater... If all this is true, then what IS his problem? Why isn't he playing in the Premier League, let alone our midfield? The problem with this argument - and I can see that some people are desperate, to a cringeworthy extent, for the lad to become a Leicester legend - is that there are, quite clearly, some very fundamental flaws to his game. He's 25 and, as far as we know, has been relatively overlooked by Premier League scouts. He's out of our team and we're playing better for it. He's been dropped in the past by Pearson, and even by Sven (under whom some would say he played his best football). He does not appear to have developed as a player, can become anonymous for games on end, and our midfield is more easily bullied with him at the heart of it AND we appear to allow sides the opportunity to shoot more from distance (he is very slow, compared to the likes of James, at closing down). Yes he's a good Championship midfielder, yes he's a useful member of our squad right now, but if we are to be successful next season it will be without King at the heart of our midfield.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 I think it's short sighted to make presumptions on a players ability in a league before a single second has been played. I mean we all have our own personal opinions and I understand that's because we all have our own perspective and viewpoints but apart from a few, the entire team is untested in the Premiership. Who's to say the starting 11 we field now as well as our current formation won't change in half a years time? That's a different challenge for next year and we have the summer to dwell on that. Still have 3 more months of this season to go lads! Some of us may find that come a year down the line this thread may be brought up and some us will be eating crow but that's beside the point beyond petty argument. As for Kingy, whether or not he plays, he has one invaluable skill that is practically priceless in the prem and that is a knack for scoring a goal. Whether its driving from deep, 20 yard free kick, scuffing it off his heal or something stupendously magical that does makes us all think "Take a bow son!" And "if" next season he gets a good run and maybe gets 10-15 goals a season once again would we still be wanting him shipped out? Maybe we could field all 3 of Drinkwater, James and King with the Guppy role reserved for a Frenchman with superb tricky as the outlet to replace the pinpoint accuracy of Steve's blessed left foot. All I'm saying is, like a few others, academy product that stuck through bad times and has come really good, matured into a good player and plays for the badge finally gets a chance to play on the biggest stage with the club he grew up with during its darkest moments should get a chance to show what him and the club can do for our kids like we once did with great Leicester City academy products. Sorry to go a bit Thracian on things but its a matter of club pride aswell to prove that you've got the youngers and future as much as anything else and a quick fix isn't beneficial to anyone in the long run if you build things on loyalty rather than greed. He's been loyal enough that I would forever keep him in a Leicester City shirt for life just to show the future Stearmans, Sheehans and Mattocks of the world that the grass is not always greener. I commend your loyalty to King. He's a top lad and a credit to the club. However, why do you think that a midfielder who isn't good enough to cement a place in a Championship team is going to do well in the Premiership? IMO if King was as good as you say, he'd be first choice NOW. He isn't at present because James and Drinkwater are better.
Guest MattP Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Yes I think he'll probably move on. Wouldn't surprise me if we made a bid for another centre midfielder next year and with James and Drinkwater that's an area we'll be too strong in for King to get a game unless we are injury ravaged.
Bryn Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 We will definitely buy a centre mid in summer. The idea that we will go into a Premier League campaign with James, Drinkwater, King and Hammond as our centre mids is laughable.
LCFCCKEANO Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 King i sbetter suited to the technicality of the prem then the rough physical championship, him drinks james and a big enforcer ala livermore/huddlestone type signing and we're set for the prem, 3 man midfield and more time on the ball= more effective king
kingfox Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Andy King can still offer a lot for Leicester City. Drinkwater and James is a partnership not worth breaking, just for the sake of Andy King, but despite that he still has a role to play at this club, maybe towards the end of this season if we get promoted a couple of weeks before the season finishes, or next season because I think it's likely that we'll play three across the middle. For me Dean Hammond is the player who might leave, maybe on loan. Yes he is experienced, but he hasn't had much game time this season, and especially if we get promoted I can't see him playing at all, because we definitely need to add another midfielder to the mix, someone decent with Premier League or International experience.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 King i sbetter suited to the technicality of the prem then the rough physical championship, him drinks james and a big enforcer ala livermore/huddlestone type signing and we're set for the prem, 3 man midfield and more time on the ball= more effective king You are right. King needs time to do what he does best. Then, he's like an orchestrator. The problem is, he aint gonna get time. The Premiership contains players who are more physically strong, faster AND good on the ball. I think King is a good Championship midfielder. Like Fryatt, that's his limit IMO.
Dickov22 Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 How can people suggest that King is 'better suited to the Premiership than the Championship'? Smacks of people trying to look as though they are 'tactically astute' to me. The premiership is a far better league than the championship. Faster, more physical, higher skill levels, more pressure, more technical. To suggest any player isn't up to it in the championship but would be in a higher league is ridiculous. For the record, I don't really see how we can say King or any of the other squad members will be able to cut it in the premiership. We've just got to wait and see.
ARTY_FOX Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 I see what people are saying in terms of if he's good enough for the prem why can't he get into the current 11. Is it not because james and drinkwater are both premiership quality themselves and are both currently playing fantastic football? He'll have something to offer next season..... surely
Guest Electric Yetis Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 Would be gutted if he left. Been my favourite player since League One. Shame for him that he hasn't played more this season but Matty James took his chance and hasn't looked back. King still has a role to play, I'm sure. Exactly this.
Stadt Posted 26 February 2014 Posted 26 February 2014 How can people suggest that King is 'better suited to the Premiership than the Championship'? Smacks of people trying to look as though they are 'tactically astute' to me. The premiership is a far better league than the championship. Faster, more physical, higher skill levels, more pressure, more technical. To suggest any player isn't up to it in the championship but would be in a higher league is ridiculous. For the record, I don't really see how we can say King or any of the other squad members will be able to cut it in the premiership. We've just got to wait and see. I concur, I like King but to suggest he's better suited to a harder, faster more difficult division is ridiculous. "Players have more time on the ball in the prem" is the number one cliche when it comes to King but it's the likes of Man City that have time on the ball because the likes of Stoke put 10 men behind the ball.
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