MPH Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Again...its the sentiment behind it...hillsborough isn't our only footballing tragedy. I don't disagree with you. But just because others are not remembered doesn't mean this one shouldn't. Perhaps it should be the other way round. I'd personally like to see the Bradford one remembered too.. I can't believe people are bitching like little girls over 7 minutes!
-blue- Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 I think Hillsborough and Bradford are just as important and it's a disgrace one gets 90% more attention. The fact 96 people died at Hillsborough and 56 died at Bradford doesn't make it worse in my opinion - they're both as bad - it isn't a competition making one more important than the other. Both should be remembered equally. There was negligence in both cases - most fans died in the Bradford fire because the fire escapes were locked at the back of the stand. I also don't think it's unfair to say if it had been a bigger club than Bradford then it would be given much more attention. I don't mind this event as it's a special anniversary but there has to come a time where football moves on (but doesn't forget) and it's left to just Liverpool to have special events/memorials for Hillsborough. It just starts to come across as a token gesture by people who are pandering to grief junkies. I wish I was this articulate, excellent post.
Grewks Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Seriously? So, lets get this right.....Hillsborough is now considered more important than remembrance Sunday? We never have to have 7 minutes delay, it is stupid. I am truly sorry to those families who lost loved ones that day, but this is almost as farcical as the Gary Speed tributes.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Seriously? So, lets get this right.....Hillsborough is now considered more important than remembrance Sunday? We never have to have 7 minutes delay, it is stupid. I am truly sorry to those families who lost loved ones that day, but this is almost as farcical as the Gary Speed tributes. Where has it been said that it's more important than Remembrance Sunday?
Grewks Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Where has it been said that it's more important than Remembrance Sunday? Well....we don't kick off 7 minutes later do we? EVERY GAME is kicking off 7 minutes later, and it is quite frankly a joke unless we commemorate other footballing disasters in the same way e.g. bradford.
wight88 Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Out of interest do Liverpool fans do anything in tribute for Heysel? Not that it was their fault or anything....
LCFCjasper Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 It's probably also to do with the fact that there's been an inquest into who's fault it is aswell. But 7 mins really and I am going and will probably miss my train home that's why I'm angry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 It's probably also to do with the fact that there's been an inquest into who's fault it is aswell. But 7 mins really and I am going and will probably miss my train home that's why I'm angry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Considering it's almost a 4 hour train journey with at least 2 changes wouldn't it be easier to get the coach?
Fox92 Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 I'll happily join in with a minute silence or whatever, but 8:07 kick off. Just push it back a bit. Stupid time.
Vacamion Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Hooray! I get the chance yet again to the wheel out the phrase: POST-DIANA LIVERPUDLIANISATION OF OUR CULTURE and to lament the reality that the griefmongers will make you out to be worse than the devil if you don't join in with their ostentatious drip eyed mawkishness. I hate it. We used to have a stiff upper lip and get on with stuff. We used to keep our remembrance for a very few days a year. Let those directly affected commemorate it, if they want to, by all means. Shoving enforced grief down the rest of the country's throats is just wrong.
foxoffderby Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Its because there was a cover up by the powers that be which include the Police, the local council the FA and the Goverment of the time and the media. There was no coverup over Bradford. The powers that be are trying to make up to the Scousers and trying to show face. Read between the propagada
fuchsntf Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Seriously? So, lets get this right.....Hillsborough is now considered more important than remembrance Sunday? We never have to have 7 minutes delay, it is stupid. I am truly sorry to those families who lost loved ones that day, but this is almost as farcical as the Gary Speed tributes. Some of you do really miss the point...its not just about Liverpool or Hilsborough.....This man made disaster could of hapenned anywhere, in fact waiting to happen, due to arrogance and ignorance sorry to say on authorities who looked as fans as lowlife.......Its an all fans tribute, basically saying....... By the grace of God go I. Bradford shouldnt be forgot either, that reason being an old stand, waste gathering under the old seating, People taking money but not caring for the simple rubbish that collects, not unlike the kings cross fire. British Standards and public safety went missing not just for 1 saturday, but over many years previous. For all yours mine, our grandchildren sake , I hope its never forgot. A tip to some of the younger ones, look up on Hamden tragedy Ibrox, that could be put down, maybe as a tragic accident. The 1st 2 was pig ignorance and lazy thinking.....Then cover ups, Bradford not so heavy as Hilsborough....I am not ashamed to say, I cried that weekend, out of frustration to authorities Madness and ignorance...So dont wimp about 7 minutes, think of yourself and your best mate being crushed for 7 -15 minutes with no escape, knowing you aint seeing another match.
leicesterseddon Posted 21 March 2014 Posted 21 March 2014 Hooray! I get the chance yet again to the wheel out the phrase: POST-DIANA LIVERPUDLIANISATION OF OUR CULTURE and to lament the reality that the griefmongers will make you out to be worse than the devil if you don't join in with their ostentatious drip eyed mawkishness. I hate it. We used to have a stiff upper lip and get on with stuff. We used to keep our remembrance for a very few days a year. Let those directly affected commemorate it, if they want to, by all means. Shoving enforced grief down the rest of the country's throats is just wrong. Could not agree more. Also...good to hear from another Glasgow Fox!
fuchsntf Posted 22 March 2014 Posted 22 March 2014 Hooray! I get the chance yet again to the wheel out the phrase: POST-DIANA LIVERPUDLIANISATION OF OUR CULTURE and to lament the reality that the griefmongers will make you out to be worse than the devil if you don't join in with their ostentatious drip eyed mawkishness. I hate it. We used to have a stiff upper lip and get on with stuff. We used to keep our remembrance for a very few days a year. Let those directly affected commemorate it, if they want to, by all means. Shoving enforced grief down the rest of the country's throats is just wrong. Diana grieving was over the top, sad but went as you say and IMO too far, too long plus a so called accident. The football events were caused by criminal negligence by people we should trust.Then deniedcand ignored. The football tributes, are so we dont forget, in a football stadium are 10s nearly 100k people. Organisers, authourities, clubs need to be shaken now and sgain to remember the fans are humans, should be respected, and very importantly are paying customers who should be guarranteed their safety In their normal pastimes.
Wycombe Fox Posted 22 March 2014 Posted 22 March 2014 Whats the betting that people will miss trains home because of this. ...or last ferry!!
Kitchandro Posted 22 March 2014 Posted 22 March 2014 Its because there was a cover up by the powers that be which include the Police, the local council the FA and the Goverment of the time and the media. There was no coverup over Bradford. The powers that be are trying to make up to the Scousers and trying to show face. Read between the propagada Since when does a cover up have anything to do with silences or delayed kick offs?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 22 March 2014 Posted 22 March 2014 Brilliant news. I've just inherited a lorryload of sack-cloth and ashes, which I was, until now, wondering how I was going to be able to get rid of. Looks like I'll be quids in.
davieG Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 Hillsborough 25th anniversary to be marked with 96 empty seats at FA Cup semi-finalsRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2586968/Hillsborough-25th-anniversary-marked-96-seats-FA-Cup-semi-finals.html#ixzz2wmLJZYrC Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Guest Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 Hillsborough 25th anniversary to be marked with 96 empty seats at FA Cup semi-finals Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2586968/Hillsborough-25th-anniversary-marked-96-seats-FA-Cup-semi-finals.html#ixzz2wmLJZYrC Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Were they doing the same in Blackburn yesterday?
shade Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 Since when does a cover up have anything to do with silences or delayed kick offs? yawn. the point he's making is it's being done for the people that died at hillsborough. further, in retort to people whinging about "why hillsborough, those grief junkies", was that it's being done because of the appalling cover up by the authorities, to finally recognise the tragedy with all the facts out in the open.
Guest parky0607 Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 I agree with the majority. The 7 minutes itself isn't an issue, but I think this should be kept for Liverpool, not every club, as it makes it look like a bit of a showpiece rather than mark of respect. It is going way over the top when there is nothing for other disasters. Have to laugh at that daily mail article though... "There will be a minute’s silence before every game over the weekend of April 11-14, while all Hillsborough families will receive four tickets for the Wigan-Arsenal game." They've wrote that like they've won a competition!
LCCFox96 Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 Out of respect I would do the minutes silence. People have died so it's only right to do that. But afterwards the match has to be about the two teams playing. Hillsborough has had a lot of media coverage recently and it's a little depressing to have a whole round of fixtures mourning it. Thankfully justice is well on its way to being achieved now anyway. If the minutes silence has to be done lets do it like the Remembrance Day fixture at the start and then get on with the football.
Voll Blau Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 Very sad what happened but this tragedy seems to get all the exposure. Liverpool fans stand at every away game Irrelevant. Standing in itself did not cause the disaster.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 23 March 2014 Posted 23 March 2014 Its because there was a cover up by the powers that be which include the Police, the local council the FA and the Goverment of the time and the media. There was no coverup over Bradford. The powers that be are trying to make up to the ScousTTers and trying to show face. Read between the propagada Total bullshit!
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