Cnuts

[fuchsntf]

If it was has bad last night as reported, why not try and get the official fan club, to enqire if the club can make a statement or

Statements on the police presence, and the relevant gripes that have been mentioned on this post.

Reading between the lines, I too find it strange the larger presence of police, it is intimidating.

That said, it only takes a innocent spark of an uncontrollable group of 30-50 people to cause mayhem, and then misunderstanding from peace keepers...Hilsborough as an example, a fear has been planted.

I dont know, but if the club had stated informed the fans over radio, east midlands tv, and game night contribution flyers discouraging pitch invasion, and possible season bans if ignored .might of been a good idea.

Plus the club could of got a positive first time thought and event organised.

The club stating at the end of the Doncaster game, the club invites the fans who want to celebrate promotion, onto the pitch.

With Manager, owners and players will 15 minutes after the game make an appearance at an organised part of the field, to

Celebrate for 1/2 hr to 60 minutes this success with their fans.

Speaches no longer the 2-3mns long from owners, Manager, Captain, and 1-3 chosen PLAYERS.

Maybe organising a forecourt party to go on until 22hrs, with the singer whos made city soccer songs plus 1-2 groups.

and another appearance of players.

Why clubs in the past havent thought of this I dont understand.

Now Brighton game has gone then we should think of doing this statement for the QPR game.

If any fan from the official fan club reads this please, make suggestions to the club.

[lgfualol]

By the sounds of it, whoever got the stewards and police fired up for last night should have been shouting at the players at half time.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Yeh it was embarassing from our club last night I think. Couldn't care whether people think it's 'tin pot' or cringey or whatever. They should be ashamed really.

[Grandad.]

What if someone dropped a glass bottle or a lighter or anything like that.

 

next match jamie Vardy goes flying in on a slide tackle and gets glass in his knee? You'd all be moaning then

 

Post of the year.

 

A lighter or glass bottle and nobody would see that in 11 days? Wow. I thought you had some intelligence. 

 

Fair enough, you seem to be in a mood about the game last night but some of the drivel you are spouting today is borderline outrageous. Embarrassing really. 

[Tommy G]

Post of the year.

 

A lighter or glass bottle and nobody would see that in 11 days? Wow. I thought you had some intelligence. 

 

Fair enough, you seem to be in a mood about the game last night but some of the drivel you are spouting today is borderline outrageous. Embarrassing really. 

 

that was an extreme example and a bit tongue in cheek but I was trying to teach some of these people on here with IQs of about 10 the reasons why people aren't allowed on the pitch.

 

You seemed to have caught the bait aswell.

Embarrassing really.

[Grandad.]

that was an extreme example and a bit tongue in cheek but I was trying to teach some of these people on here with IQs of about 10 the reasons why people aren't allowed on the pitch.

 

You seemed to have caught the bait aswell.

Embarrassing really.

 

No you weren't, you just made yourself look really daft and are now trying to turn it round. 

[GingerrrFox]

that was an extreme example and a bit tongue in cheek but I was trying to teach some of these people on here with IQs of about 10 the reasons why people aren't allowed on the pitch.

You seemed to have caught the bait aswell.

Embarrassing really.

Wow. You're one of these who claims he caught a whopper because he said something unintentionally stupid and are now trying to backtrack and say it was a purposeful attempt to reel in people who are a bit slow? Nice one.

[EnglishOxide]

If you can't see that Tommy was being tongue in cheek then that's worrying.

[Master Fox]

It is embarrassing. If you want to run around in a patch of grass so badly go on a field.

[suffolk fox]

Oooooooooooohhhhhhh. Mum let me play please, "i want to go on the grass but that nasty man Mr Barclay won't let me?"

[Fox92]

Turning into a classic thread now... I can still see both sides of the argument.

 

I can also see what Tommy G means, but I think people are taking his posts out of context. I'm not one for Health and Safety, in fact I think in this Country it's overused, but what if someone does actually injure themselves? First thing they're going to do is look at the club for compensation, surely?

 

I'm not saying this is a valid reason or anything, pitch invasions happen all the time, but I think all of them are spontaneous. It was a bit difficult for us, securing promotion when we did not have a game. If Sky wouldn't have been, well Sky, and move the Wednesday game to a Friday night then a pitch invasion could have happened after the game if it was on the Saturday because we would have won and results would have gone our way. (Same as when we got promoted from League One, we were away from home).

 

I don't really see why people are getting, what seems to be, mad about it. I don't see the desperation of a pitch invasion because I don't need one personally to celebrate our promotion, but then again maybe I'm being naive or something. Then again, as I've said before, if you want to do it then do it and if you don't then don't.

[Tommy G]

Turning into a classic thread now... I can still see both sides of the argument.

 

I can also see what Tommy G means, but I think people are taking his posts out of context. I'm not one for Health and Safety, in fact I think in this Country it's overused, but what if someone does actually injure themselves? First thing they're going to do is look at the club for compensation, surely?

 

I'm not saying this is a valid reason or anything, pitch invasions happen all the time, but I think all of them are spontaneous. It was a bit difficult for us, securing promotion when we did not have a game. If Sky wouldn't have been, well Sky, and move the Wednesday game to a Friday night then a pitch invasion could have happened after the game if it was on the Saturday because we would have won and results would have gone our way. (Same as when we got promoted from League One, we were away from home).

 

I don't really see why people are getting, what seems to be, mad about it. I don't see the desperation of a pitch invasion because I don't need one personally to celebrate our promotion, but then again maybe I'm being naive or something. Then again, as I've said before, if you want to do it then do it and if you don't then don't.

 

Finally someone with a brain

 

I am not big on H&S either - I was merely trying to help people understand the concept of why they aren't allowed on the pitch. I don't think the club are being party poopers, they are probably trying to protect themselves from incidents like above.

 

Here is another scenario to dream up - what if a fan stabbed a player? Sounds mental doesn't it, But imagine the spot light on the club etc. Not saying this would happen (people take examples like that too seriously) There is just more that meets the eye sometimes with things.

[youglan]

Whether he is more likely or not is irrelivant. STEWARDS ON MATCHDAY HAVE A DUTY OF CARE. They have a role to carry out. That's **** all to do with off pitch activities. Why are you not grasping this?

 

On your second point, i'm going to call you out as a straight up ****ing liar as it was only stewards holding back the group at the bottom of L, i saw the whole thing.

am call u a liar cos i know someone at the game there seen coppers there he not lying 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

I am luckily enough to know the Groundsman at the KP and he let me take a pic of the pitch today.

Due to the complaints regarding the overreaction of using riot police at the Brighton game the club will be using signs for the QPR and Donny games. It is hoped these signs will quell any thoughts of a pitch invasion.

[SystonFox]

why do you keep calling it $ky like its a term you have coined? are you sponsored by them?

[Guest MattP]

Finally someone with a brain

I am not big on H&S either - I was merely trying to help people understand the concept of why they aren't allowed on the pitch. I don't think the club are being party poopers, they are probably trying to protect themselves from incidents like above.

Here is another scenario to dream up - what if a fan stabbed a player? Sounds mental doesn't it, But imagine the spot light on the club etc. Not saying this would happen (people take examples like that too seriously) There is just more that meets the eye sometimes with things.

Yeah if a fan was intending to stab a player I'm sure he would wait until the end of match pitch invasion to do it

[jamfox]

If you can't see that Tommy was being tongue in cheek then that's worrying

 

 

Explain that ?   cant see it at all fella?????????????????????????

[Harry - LCFC]

Finally someone with a brain

 

Someone who agrees with you, you mean. That's all that is, "they side with me therefore they're more intelligent."

 

I have actually taken your points on board and realise there are risks to pitch invasions. But, as with many other activities, I think the risks aren't great enough to prevent it from happening.

[jamfox]

Explain that ?   cant see it at all fella?????????????????????????

Yes just read it again.  no way!   by any stretch of the imagination 

[Tommy G]

why do you keep calling it $ky like its a term you have coined? are you sponsored by them?

 

He wont want the promotion money when we go up I expect either

 

Hmmm

[EnglishOxide]

Explain that ? cant see it at all fella?????????????????????????

Are you ok?

His wider point was that the club is accountable for anything that may occur on the pitch. The glass on the pitch comment was tongue in cheek, but its the concept behind it which matters. The same goes for a fan stabbing someone. Or running on and breaking their leg.

The victim in any case (and in any other scenario) will try and get compensation from the club.

This means court cases, bad press and expenditure.

Saying 'Yeah but why would a fan do that?' is not a counter to this argument and would not stand up in court.

[Larry_LCFC]

Are you ok?

His wider point was that the club is accountable for anything that may occur on the pitch. The glass on the pitch comment was tongue in cheek, but its the concept behind it which matters. The same goes for a fan stabbing someone. Or running on and breaking their leg.

The victim in any case (and in any other scenario) will try and get compensation from the club.

This means court cases, bad press and expenditure.

Saying 'Yeah but why would a fan do that?' is not a counter to this argument and would not stand up in court.

To be fair, if you broke your leg on the pitch you wouldn't have a leg to stand on (excuse the pun) If you enter an area where technically you shouldn't and that fact is advertised, if you hurt yourself, you are very unlikely to be able to sue. We are talking about a one off 5 minute pitch invasion to celebrate promotion at the end of the season. Its health and safety gone mad.

[dsr-burnley]

At Burnley, it used to be a tradition that people came onto the pitch after the last game of the season.  Then they decided they wanted to stop it, so got extra stewards and police in, and it took about 15 years but at last the "invasion" culture seems to have receded.  What happens if we clinch promotion on Saturday, who knows.

 

BUT - if a pre-planned pitch invasion had been allowed yesterday at your place, and then allowed again for each of the last two home games, where does it end?  Because you can't tell me that the cheerful, boisterous types that want to run around on the pitch, and don't see the club as having any opinion worth bothering about, wouldn't do it again if they got the chance. 

 

But you never want fans to have the idea that pitch invasions are normal and 'the thing to do'.  We might clinch promotion at Blackpool on Good Friday.  If we do, let's hope there's no pitch invasion, because the anti-Oyston faction at Blackpool (and that's everybody) would probably want a pitch invasion of their own, as as some of our drunks and some of their drunks don't get on, it's wouldn't be very nice.  But as we don't have a recent record of pitch invasions, we hope it won't happen.

[jamfox]

Are you ok?

His wider point was that the club is accountable for anything that may occur on the pitch. The glass on the pitch comment was tongue in cheek, but its the concept behind it which matters. The same goes for a fan stabbing someone. Or running on and breaking their leg.

The victim in any case (and in any other scenario) will try and get compensation from the club.

This means court cases, bad press and expenditure.

Saying 'Yeah but why would a fan do that?' is not a counter to this argument and would not stand up in court.

 

Yes I’m good thanks?

 

 

So his statement was /

 

 

Posted Today, 02:18 PM

“What if someone dropped a glass bottle or a lighter or anything like that.

 next match jamie Vardy goes flying in on a slide tackle and gets glass in his knee? You'd all be moaning then

 That is an extreme example but there is a lot of money in sport I'm afraid so like it or lump it, rules are much stricter than in ther 80's!â€

 

You said off this

 

 

Posted Today, 03:21 PM

“If you can't see that Tommy was being tongue in cheek then that's worrying.â€

 

 

 

I then said i could not see this and asked you to explain.

 

you went on to say 

 

"Are you ok?

His wider point was that the club is accountable for anything that may occur on the pitch. The glass on the pitch comment was tongue in cheek, but its the concept behind it which matters. The same goes for a fan stabbing someone. Or running on and breaking their leg.

The victim in any case (and in any other scenario) will try and get compensation from the club.

This means court cases, bad press and expenditure.

Saying 'Yeah but why would a fan do that?' is not a counter to this argument and would not stand up in court. 

 

 

 

WELL / 

 

 

His “wider point†is inferred by you.  The rest of what you said has nothing to do as if it was “tongue in cheek†  and that is the only point I made.

 

The fact that he said “this is an extreme example†shows it was not meant to be tongue in cheek i don't think you know what it means so iv provided you with a definition

 

 

tongue-in-cheek - cleverly amusing in tone; "a bantering tone"; "facetious remarks"; "tongue-in-cheek advice"

bantering, facetious

humorous, humourous - full of or characterized by humor; "humorous stories"; "humorous cartoons"; "in a humorous vein"

 

If that was tongue in cheek he is about as funny as cancer and as amusing as a night out in Baghdad 

 

[Larry_LCFC]

Yes I’m good thanks?

 

 

So him statement was /

 

 

Posted Today, 02:18 PM

“What if someone dropped a glass bottle or a lighter or anything like that.

 next match jamie Vardy goes flying in on a slide tackle and gets glass in his knee? You'd all be moaning then

 That is an extreme example but there is a lot of money in sport I'm afraid so like it or lump it, rules are much stricter than in ther 80's!â€

 

You said off this

 

 

Posted Today, 03:21 PM

“If you can't see that Tommy was being tongue in cheek then that's worrying.â€

 

 

 

I then said i could not see this and asked you to explain.

 

you went on to say 

 

"Are you ok?

His wider point was that the club is accountable for anything that may occur on the pitch. The glass on the pitch comment was tongue in cheek, but its the concept behind it which matters. The same goes for a fan stabbing someone. Or running on and breaking their leg.

The victim in any case (and in any other scenario) will try and get compensation from the club.

This means court cases, bad press and expenditure.

Saying 'Yeah but why would a fan do that?' is not a counter to this argument and would not stand up in court. 

 

 

 

WELL / 

 

 

His “wider point†is inferred by you.  The rest of what you said has nothing to do as if it was “tongue in cheek†  and that is the only point I made.

 

The fact that he said “this is an extreme example†shows it was not meant to be tongue in cheek i don't think you know what it means so iv provided you with a definition

 

 

tongue-in-cheek - cleverly amusing in tone; "a bantering tone"; "facetious remarks"; "tongue-in-cheek advice"

bantering, facetious

humorous, humourous - full of or characterized by humor; "humorous stories"; "humorous cartoons"; "in a humorous vein"

 

If that was tongue he is about as funny as cancer and as amusing as a night out in Baghdad