lovelcfc Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Was having this conversion on the way back from bolton with few mates. What more does nigel need to do to be our best manager ever? Establish us as a premier league club or is the fact we've broken a number of records this season enough?
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Simple for me. Emulate what MON did ie. Top ten football in the Prem plus some cups.
One Arm Babba Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 He's got whiter trainers and a better flat top than O'Neill ever did!
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 He's the only manager that's won 2 league titles with us
cc_star Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 In terms of win percentage he is yes. And records like points, total wins, goals, away wins, consecutive wins... So many ways in which this season is right up there despite many still wishing Pearson wasn't here Will have to wait & see if we can establish ourselves in the Premier League & have a cup run, preferably win in the process. No reason why not, we're much better than Hull were in their promo season & they're in a cup final
Captain... Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 He has lots of records: Only Leicester manager to win the third tier, Only Leicester manager to get to the Quarter finals of the JPT Only Leicester manager to win the Football League. Only manager to be more successful in his second spell than first spell with the club If that doesn't clinch it then I don't know what will.
XLM Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Contextually, if he didn't do what he did in terms of finances / two promotions - we might well be looking down the barrel in league 1 right now. Undoubtedly done a different, but equally spectacular job as O'Neal if you ask me.
cc_star Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 A cup win and he's about there i reckon. Totally agree, only problem with that is the big 6 quite like that cup these days, gives the manager a slight bit of breathing space. Not sure we'll see a Leicester Vs Tranmere final in the near future
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Simple for me. Emulate what MON did ie. Top ten football in the Prem plus some cups.This
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Was having this conversion on the way back from bolton with few mates. What more does nigel need to do to be our best manager ever? Establish us as a premier league club or is the fact we've broken a number of records this season enough? Good, yes, but not the best. In the last ten years, then yes.
Mark_w Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 In the last ten years, then yes. It's taken you a while to figure that out, but glad you got there in the end.
Zapp Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 And records like points, total wins, goals, away wins, consecutive wins... So many ways in which this season is right up there despite many still wishing Pearson wasn't here Will have to wait & see if we can establish ourselves in the Premier League & have a cup run, preferably win in the process. No reason why not, we're much better than Hull were in their promo season & they're in a cup final WHO IS WISHING THAT? apart from other fans
Captain... Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Totally agree, only problem with that is the big 6 quite like that cup these days, gives the manager a slight bit of breathing space. Not sure we'll see a Leicester Vs Tranmere final in the near future Last 10 FA cup finals have featured some right dodgy teams: Cardiff, Wigan, Millwall, Stoke, Portsmouth twice, West Ham and this season Hull. League Cup finals include: Bradford, Sunderland, Cardiff, Swansea, Birmingham, Villa, Wigan, Middlesborough vs Bolton in 2004. in fact 2007 was the last time the big boys contested both cup finals. A cup final is very possible, especially as the big 6 will be competing in Europe, United are probably a good bet for both next season with no European distractions, stick your money on it, Leicester vs United FA cup final.
Stadt Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 If we get into Europe and reach the quarters that'd be a great achievement but still falls short of legendary status. Win the FA cup Nige, even if we get relegated you'll be a legend.
inckley fox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 I wouldn't compare him with O'Neill yet, nor even Gillies. But no manager has ever HAD to take us from League One to the Premier League, and nobody has ever taken us to the top flight as emphatically as Pearson. His financial backing has been better than that enjoyed by Hodge, Womack, Bullock, Halliday, O'Farrell, Wallace, Milne, Little, O'Neill and Adams, but neither has it been as extraordinary as some make out, or as extraordinary as that enjoyed by Taylor or Sven. O'Neill took us up in half a season, but we were 3rd when he took over and finished 5th, so it's not as complete an achievement as 96 points from 44 games. Gillies never had to take us up in the first place. And on the subject of Gillies (always have this argument with my Dad) we finished 4th in a less elite top flight, but we also finished 18th and got relegated at the end of the season he was sacked in. A great City boss, yes, but Cup finals aside all we won was a League Cup that nobody had yet thought to take seriously. Either way, the fact that Gillies, O'Neill and Willie Orr are the only managers in our history to have contended major trophies and competed regularly in the top half of the league makes it reasonable that we should consider our only manager to take us up two divisions one of our best ever bosses.
NeilLCFC Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Love Nige but agree with the majority of posters...he needs to do better the MON did to be our most successful manager. However the PL is much tougher now so I'm not sure how to measure it fairly.
inckley fox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 I mean, if he keeps us up and we do respectably next season then, considering he's taken us up two divisions beforehand, he'd have to be up there. Slip in a League Cup and, yes, he might have a shout at our best ever boss.
inckley fox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Love Nige but agree with the majority of posters...he needs to do better the MON did to be our most successful manager. However the PL is much tougher now so I'm not sure how to measure it fairly. Never understand the claim that the PL is much tougher now than it was in 2000. We finished 8th that season and I'd have fancied the likes of Izzet, Lennon, Guppy, Collymore, Heskey, Elliott, Flowers as being more than a match for Southampton or Newcastle now. And Manchester United won the league that year, it was a year after they won the Champions League, I think the Scholes-Giggs-Beckham-Stam-Keane United side at its peak would have been more than good enough for today's game. After all, Giggs was a regular for the Premier League winners last year at the age of 39. There's little to suggest the game had left him behind. We have one PL side in the Champions League semis this year, last year we didn't even have that. Over those 2 seasons there have been 3 German and 4 Spanish clubs involved at that stage. Whichever way you look at it, there's little to suggest that the PL is better than it was back then. And definitely no way of categorically proving it.
sylofox Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 In terms of win percentage he is yes. NP 1 season div1 3 seasons championship. MON 6 months championship 4 seasons in the prem I would expect NP's win % to be better but I don't see 2 cup wins 3 finals and trips into europe on NP's CV No I am not a NP knocker but you can't compare second class football to top flight. To me if we stay up next season that is better than the play off season by far. If we are going to compare win% can we do it at the same level. Personally I hope he pisses all over what MON did in the prem and wins 3 cups. but you can only compare them at the same level
Stadt Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Not enough people say "Pearsonally" when giving their opinion about Nige.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 23 April 2014 Posted 23 April 2014 Hahahahahahaha what a complete over reaction. Wins the championship, best manager evaaaaaaaaa.
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