Football Association to look at introduction of B teams

[Guest]

Danny Mills has just said "If we carry on like this winning the World Cup for England will be the exception rather than the rule"

Have I fell into a coma and missed us win a few?

Plastic

[Raj]

Wait. Where does history come into this?

Are you for real?

history is what gives football fans an identity...ask cardiff fans about history of what colour tops they. used to wear...thats history!!!

[Tielemans63]

When are the FA going to realise that poor coaching and sub-standard facilities are what's killing the national team. Dont invest adequate time or resources and this is what happens.

Introduce a 6+5 rule for all teams and suddenly the prem clubs have an incentive to invest in the development of domestic players properly.

[Super_horns]

Introduce a 6+5 rule for all teams and suddenly the prem clubs have an incentive to invest in the development of domestic players properly.

Fair point or is this allowed?

 

Why punish the lower league teams because the Premier league sides don't care about the national side.

[Danno]

There should be a limit on how much young players are paid too, I've read in La Masia you're not allowed a car until you've made a contribution to the first team. Too many young players on too much money like Chalobah on 30k a week who have no incentive to do anything now.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Greg Dyke?

 

More like SMEG DYKE

[Jordan]

http://www.soccernomics-agency.com/?p=531

There might be a few surprises in that link for you...

[Guest MattP]

http://www.soccernomics-agency.com/?p=531

There might be a few surprises in that link for you...

 

Why has he just decided to start his comparison in 1968?

[Beliall]

Some good points in this thread. Im for the idea, but miguel made me think with his comment about large clubs collecting players, maybe there should be a no more than 3 foreign players rule or something.

[DennisNedry]

Sign the petition to oppose these FA morons

 

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-football-association-say-no-to-b-teams

[Maybes]

Sign the petition to oppose these FA morons

 

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/the-football-association-say-no-to-b-teams

 

Greg Dyke an anagram of the word clown.

[Grewks]

What a ridiculous concept this is.....

 

 

The people at the FA need to realise that as long as English footballing pyramid remains the most popular in the world and in general holds the most quality....the national side will never be a success.

 

 

Whenever it comes to choosing between the success of domestic football or the international side, domestic will win every time. The country makes far too much money from the success of the domestic game, whether that be through fan attendance or foreign investment in clubs (e.g. Tax from wages paid by foreign owners).

 

 

If we want a good national side, like Spain or Germany, then we must also expect the a poor financial domestic game like they themselves have. 

[Pride_Of_The_Midlands]

I hope Spain and Germany flop at the World Cup.

 

Who would they copy then?

[CKB]

Greg Dyke's a cvnt, that's really all i gotta say!

[Finnegan]

Acrington Stanley.

[Guest ttfn]

There are too many reasons that this is a bad idea to even think about listing them out. We could be here all day.

[Biggus]

Paddy Akinbiyi, on 08 May 2014 - 5:33 PM, said:

Introduce a 6+5 rule for all teams and suddenly the prem clubs have an incentive to invest in the development of domestic players properly.

 

Fair point or is this allowed?

 

Why punish the lower league teams because the Premier league sides don't care about the national side.

 

From the report (page 29 section 1):

 

The second came from FIFA who tried to introduce a “6+5†rule in May 2008. This would have required that, at the beginning of each match, every club would have to field at least six players eligible to play for the national team of the country of that club. The European Parliament rejected the proposed rule in that same year but FIFA continued to campaign for its introduction. In 2010, when the European Commission said such a rule would contravene fundamental principles of EU law, as it would breach Article 39 of the EC Treaty, FIFA reluctantly abandoned the proposal. 

 

Vote UKIP!  ha ha

[Dan]

There should be a limit on how much young players are paid too, I've read in La Masia you're not allowed a car until you've made a contribution to the first team. Too many young players on too much money like Chalobah on 30k a week who have no incentive to do anything now.

 

I do tend to agree with this but you've got to remember that Barcelona as a club have probably more power over their youth players through sheer attraction than anyone else.

 

If Leicester imposed something like that then all our youth players would just piss off to someone else.

[Guest MattP]

[Alexikokopops]

Interesting read (from February 2007 admittedly) about the effect of B teams in Germany.

http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/923-Europe/598-the-killer-bs

 

"To ensure a level playing field and economic survival for lower-division clubs, sleeping giants such as Fortuna Düsseldorf and Dynamo Dresden have proposed the creation of a separate league pyramid for reserve teams – the very set-up that Mourinho, Wenger and Benítez would like dismantled in England. Predictably, Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge rejects this idea out of hand: “There’s no marketing potential for this. It would just be 18-year-olds that nobody knows.†That these 18-year-olds are already destroying the marketing potential of the lower leagues doesn’t seem to concern him in the slightest."

[Fox in the North]

Interesting read (from February 2007 admittedly) about the effect of B teams in Germany.

http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/923-Europe/598-the-killer-bs

 

"To ensure a level playing field and economic survival for lower-division clubs, sleeping giants such as Fortuna Düsseldorf and Dynamo Dresden have proposed the creation of a separate league pyramid for reserve teams – the very set-up that Mourinho, Wenger and Benítez would like dismantled in England. Predictably, Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge rejects this idea out of hand: “There’s no marketing potential for this. It would just be 18-year-olds that nobody knows.†That these 18-year-olds are already destroying the marketing potential of the lower leagues doesn’t seem to concern him in the slightest."

 

 

Cracking article that. Just shows how misguided this B team idea is. Istill can't believe that this comes after a year of research.

[Dan]

Very good article.

 

Surely there's a way of preventing this being introduced?

 

I actually cannot believe that panel could possibly come to such a farcical conclusion.

[oxford blue]

Very good article.

 

Surely there's a way of preventing this being introduced?

 

I actually cannot believe that panel could possibly come to such a farcical conclusion.

 

Richard Scudamore is against it, so clearly the proposal regarding B teams in the a league 3 will go nowhere:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27340856

[davieG]

• 10 Premier League B teams and 10 from the Conference would take part.
• 20 of the 25 players in the squad should qualify for the home-grown rule.
• No non-EU players allowed.
• 19 of the 25 players in the squad should be under the age of 21.

 

How on earth is playing against 10 conference teams going to produce an elite of English footballers the whole idea is totally preposterous!

 

As much as I dislike the loan system as it encourages Pl clubs to round up the best players with no real ambition to play them it would seem much more logical for each of the Championship teams to have 5 players on loan that would be 120 players the equivalent of 12 players for the proposed 10 B teams.

 

The Championship clubs could have some sort of draft system based either on last years finishing position or Club finances. The wages of the loanees all being paid for by the PL clubs thus spreading a bit of the PL cash around.

[Fox in the North]

If there's one thing I've always liked about American football, it's the college and draft systems. Unfortunately apart from DavieG's suggestion, I don't think there's a way it could be implemented into professional football.