johnny the fox Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-27972796 A Total waste of life in many ways.
Parafox Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Terrible. Even the fact that they got the wrong house is galling. Somebody would have died that night regardless. Shitbags, the lot of them.
Guest MattP Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 They went to maryland chicken after What an unbelievable mess, complete bodge job. Some other poor bastards will have to suffer again no doubt when they are released.
DennisNedry Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Extraordinary humanity shown by Dr Taufiq. The thugs are just beyond belief. "None have ever taken any responsibility for their actions on that night, nor have they shown any remorse"
sdb Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 That dad is a pretty incredible man. I'm seething just reading it.
howlinmadmurfdoc Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Callous bastards should never be let out, some **** on radio leicester tonight saying they're alright kids aswell, the longer they're kept off the streets the better.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Knew one of the eight lads, couldn't imagine he'd do something like that, seemed normal as a young lad. Hope they all rot in prison.
katieakita Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 This Dr Taufiq is everything that is right about the human race, these 8 highlight everything that is wrong.
Stadt Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Maybe a little irrelevant to this but this sort of humility is what Islam is based on and pisses me off no end that individuals take it upon themselves to force their own flawed interpretations on others advocating that conflict and murder is needed to achieve their goals.
xHamzah Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Dr. Taufiq is a great man having the ability not to hate the people who wiped out his family, I personally would probably have a different opinion. Also, can I just point out this man is a perfect example of what Islam really is and not what the media portrays us as.
Raj Posted 23 June 2014 Posted 23 June 2014 Agree with the comments abot The Dr. Has shown amazing humility. Those bastards dont deserve to be let out...They will be in about 8 years knowing the judicial system.
kingfox Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Was mates with one of them at junior school, never in a million years would I have thought he'd be involved in something like this. Disgusting.
Harry - LCFC Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Went to school and had conversations with two of them. One of them was actually a fairly friendly person. It's a bit disturbing to think the people you meet, fairly normal people too, might involve themselves in this kind of incident.
Danno Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Is the third from left on the top row been edited on face warp or is that how he looks?
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Find me a political party that is not racist but would have these fcukers done via the death penalty and I'd vote for them. My thoughts are with the Dr and if it happened to my family, then I'd do my utmost to make them pay - wouldn't care less if it meant I'd do time myself
Leicester Lass Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Is the third from left on the top row been edited on face warp or is that how he looks? He was in my year at school, that is how he looks!
DennisNedry Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 Maybe a little irrelevant to this but this sort of humility is what Islam is based on and pisses me off no end that individuals take it upon themselves to force their own flawed interpretations on others advocating that conflict and murder is needed to achieve their goals. Dr. Taufiq is a great man having the ability not to hate the people who wiped out his family, I personally would probably have a different opinion. Also, can I just point out this man is a perfect example of what Islam really is and not what the media portrays us as. I think you'll find that the vast majority of countries with a Muslim majority not only have the death penalty and barbaric punishments but also have a pretty warped justice system. Dr. Taufiq is just an extraordinary individual, I hope he somehow managed to rebuild his life and find happiness again.
BoneDog Posted 24 June 2014 Posted 24 June 2014 I think you'll find that the vast majority of countries with a Muslim majority not only have the death penalty and barbaric punishments but also have a pretty warped justice system. Dr. Taufiq is just an extraordinary individual, I hope he somehow managed to rebuild his life and find happiness again. The rulers of countries such as Saudi aren't following their supposed religion and rule by fear. They have brutal secret police in every town and mosque. If they were acting as true Muslims should do then they would be shining examples just as Dr. Taufiq is. As the guys you quoted said, Taufiq is a true example of Islam. It sounds like those two have more knowledge of Islam than you do (also taking into account what you said to me in that other thread). Friends of the USA's head honchos, like the Saudi royals or terrorist rebels are not Muslims, but I suppose a few videos of nutcases on the CIA/Saudi/Israeli payroll shouting Allahu Akbar before blowing somebodies head off is all the proof you need. In those countries in the Middle East it is normal Muslims like the Dr. who are being slaughtered.
Harry - LCFC Posted 26 June 2014 Posted 26 June 2014 Sentenced yesterday. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-house-deaths-Arson-murderers-jailed/story-21288130-detail/story.html#iVVyl3rqJViXwhbS.01 Stories like this usually do nothing to me but this one has. You only ever see the faces of criminals in the media but you're never told who they are and what they're like. The rulers of countries such as Saudi aren't following their supposed religion and rule by fear. They have brutal secret police in every town and mosque. If they were acting as true Muslims should do then they would be shining examples just as Dr. Taufiq is. As the guys you quoted said, Taufiq is a true example of Islam. It sounds like those two have more knowledge of Islam than you do (also taking into account what you said to me in that other thread). Friends of the USA's head honchos, like the Saudi royals or terrorist rebels are not Muslims, but I suppose a few videos of nutcases on the CIA/Saudi/Israeli payroll shouting Allahu Akbar before blowing somebodies head off is all the proof you need. In those countries in the Middle East it is normal Muslims like the Dr. who are being slaughtered. What's true Islam? When you use that phrase I think what you really mean is the form of Islam that you approve of. I think the true version of a religion as the one which takes scripture literally. If you say "no" to certain teachings then you're essentially rejecting part the religion and are not, therefore, following it in its authentic form. I agree with you that Dr Taufiq is an example of the right way to follow one's religion but to say he's an example of true Islam is incorrect IMO. His Islam is a version that has be critically analysed by humans who have removed the parts they don't like. It's a watered-down, non-literal, secularised version of what you'll find in the Qu'ran.
RonnieTodger Posted 26 June 2014 Posted 26 June 2014 Saw someone like a disgusting Facebook status from someone who was obviously mates with some of the 8. It read along the lines of "cant believe this, these are some good boys. Just the wrong place the wrong time". The victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, not them, you cúnt. It just goes to show that some morons will try and defend anything.
Soar Fox Posted 26 June 2014 Posted 26 June 2014 Saw someone like a disgusting Facebook status from someone who was obviously mates with some of the 8. It read along the lines of "cant believe this, these are some good boys. Just the wrong place the wrong time". The victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, not them, you cúnt. It just goes to show that some morons will try and defend anything. I'm sure I saw the same thing on Facebook the other day. Can't remember the person who liked it though.
Beliall Posted 26 June 2014 Posted 26 June 2014 People like anything on face ache. "My nan died" "like"
BoneDog Posted 26 June 2014 Posted 26 June 2014 What's true Islam? When you use that phrase I think what you really mean is the form of Islam that you approve of. I think the true version of a religion as the one which takes scripture literally. If you say "no" to certain teachings then you're essentially rejecting part the religion and are not, therefore, following it in its authentic form. I agree with you that Dr Taufiq is an example of the right way to follow one's religion but to say he's an example of true Islam is incorrect IMO. His Islam is a version that has be critically analysed by humans who have removed the parts they don't like. It's a watered-down, non-literal, secularised version of what you'll find in the Qu'ran. Nitpicking, but I said his kind of person is 'a true example (or representation) of Islam'. I don't think either of us knows that the Dr. has watered down the Quran to suit his own lifestyle, so I'm not sure where you get that from. What do you expect him to act like if he was following the book literally? I've read the Quran numerous times, more than one translation (I own three different translations and two different versions of The Bible), and what I see in the Dr.'s personality is exactly what I see in the Quran as a whole. I know that good people like him are following their religion correctly, and I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly, but it seems like you're saying that decent Muslims are not really Muslims because they're not following the book, which to me it seems as if he is. In the Quran it says that if somebody kills a member of your family it is up to you whether you forgive that person or not, and it clearly states that it is better for your soul (if you believe in such a thing) if you do forgive. Islam was twisted after Muhammad's death, just as Christianity was twisted after Jesus's death and I'd say the versions of Islam you are thinking about are the later versions and not the versions that the prophets preached. Both religions are continuing to get twisted to this day, and both religions have many misguided followers. Since 2001, aswell as reading the Quran numerous times I've also read at least 80 other books by Muslim scholars from all eras, and listened to at least 300 hours of lectures by numerous scholars, good and bad. I think that after all this time that I've got a pretty good sense of which types of people are doing the work that Muhammad wanted future generations to do, and which types are doing the work that they aren't supposed to be doing. I've talked to many supposed Muslims who don't understand a thing about their own religion, and I've told them as much. I'm certain that Dr. Taufiq is a true Muslim, and his prophet would be proud of him.
Raj Posted 27 June 2014 Posted 27 June 2014 Saw someone like a disgusting Facebook status from someone who was obviously mates with some of the 8. It read along the lines of "cant believe this, these are some good boys. Just the wrong place the wrong time". The victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, not them, you cúnt. It just goes to show that some morons will try and defend anything. It baffles me the amount of times these poor cherrubs who have done wrong only because ,we ,in society havent given them the chances they deserve. Then we get their mates and family going on about how young Johnny was such a good boy and we are so shocked how this could happen and he was in with the wrong crowd...blah blah. Just once...ONE fooking time i wanna hear the mum of any of these cretins turn around and say"My boy Johhnny was a fooking cvnt and i knew he would end up this way. I was at my wits end trying to calm this boy down but he wanted to act the big man.He deserves his sentance,im very sorry for bringing this tool into the world and apologise to the victims. I will have nothing to do with him when he gets out" PLEASE...just the fooking ONE TIME!!
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