Monsell1976 Posted 1 December 2014 Posted 1 December 2014 Yeah why not like if we had 2 pts now lets keep him. Where the fvck did I say that. At the moment we are one point off of survival we have had a bad run and the last 2 games have been better. I am just so glad you don't own the club and our owners have a little more patience than you. But then again it is not your money you would be pissing up the wall every time you booted a boss. Why you getting so aggressive, I gave a senario and gave the answers that have been given on this forum.There is no need to swear and become defensive. I know some people take it personal when Pearson comes under fire, but I have been saying I don't have faith that he can turn it round, does that mean I'm shouting Pearson out. So if you going to get Mardy and sarcastic, when someone says something you don't agree with, then I think you need to take a breath and relax, or would you like to rant until I submit and have your opinion.
Monsell1976 Posted 1 December 2014 Posted 1 December 2014 Most of our squad are 25 or under, we won the championship at a canter with this squad, Nigel got the best out of the players, we signed well to complete the job. We get promoted, we are one win away from the whole mood lifting......if it were my money, I would leave Nigel in situ until at least this time next year......I accept to stay up we need to win, but Sunderland and QPR was a return to passionate football after Swansea, WBA and Southampton....we have good young players, Moore,James, Drinkwater,Vardy, iSchlupp, Knocky,Wood, will all improve.....(Harry Kane anyone? Couldn't hit a barn door, here, now looks unplayable) have faith, stick with Nigel and the team and avoid the revolving managers door / squad demolition that will surely follow, not to mention old replacements (experienced?) that only come for the money.......really really hoping for a win tomorrow, think we can beat Villa on Sunday.....6 points would make a world of difference........Good post, don't agree with all of it, but a good post in favour of keeping him
5waller5 Posted 1 December 2014 Posted 1 December 2014 I'd have selected give him 3 more games if there was the option .... If we're bottom after that then it's time to roll the dice. I don't think there's any logic in keeping someone once it reaches the point where the risk / reward balance shifts against him.
JIMMYWILLIS Posted 1 December 2014 Posted 1 December 2014 You're right. That's why I'm not even going to bother responding to this post, despite there being so much wrong with it. Say what?
LCFCSOULBOY Posted 1 December 2014 Posted 1 December 2014 It is common sense to want to stay in the Premier League otherwise what is the point? They may as well have not bothered purchasing the club. They have said from day one that the target is to get to the Premier League and stay there, they said it before the season started. Football is a business based on results and if our current predicament doesn't improve they will sack Pearson. Business has no place for sentimentality and although I would not be pleased to see Pearson go, I wouldn't be particularly saddened either. For me staying in the Premier League is critical and far more important then sticking with Pearson for sentimental reasons. I've had enough of the Championship, I don't want to go back so if staying up at the expense of Nigel Pearson is what it takes then so be it. Of course it is a gamble whatever we do, stick or twist? Stick with Pearson and we gamble our Premier League status. Twist and replace him with another manager and it is the same outcome except the successor will probably have more experience in turning around a club like Leicester's fortunes in this league. If we are to replace him it needs to be before the transfer window so it's a matter of urgency for me. If Pearson is still in charge come January 1st then I would rather we stuck by him no matter what happens but at the moment I am edging towards getting Pulis in. very good post. could not agree more
Dan Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 "Real fans want Pearson out" from someone who calls others for their arrogance is one of the best things I've read on here in a while. Imagine actually being swayed by someone who is so contradictory.
HoustonFox Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Our better players not even getting their basic individual skills under control.Many too hectic, when moving forward, losing the ball too easy to the opposition.Our holding of the ball quite frankly has been pathetic. Drinkwater and James from last year, with the addition of Cambiasso, should of been our backbone of success, throwing in Mahrez and Vardy into that mix would have given a rollover of a decent amount of goal chances converted. Pearson trying different set ups and grouping is not a weakness but what you do at this level. Good post, this sums it up for me. How many people were saying how strong our team was last season and who could have predicted it would be our BEST players that wouldn't show up this season. For all the talk of Konchesky out etc, it has been our best player from last season (and arguably the best midfielder in the league), Danny Drinkwater, the heartbeat of our team that hasn't shown up this season. I don't want to just single him out but it is an example of a player not stepping up that has really surprised me. We know he is a shy lad but is he getting stage fright or is he a flat track bully? Maybe this is the edge he lacked that meant Man U released him. On to the question, should Nigel go? As others have said, I think he should stay. We are in games (except Swansea) and we are playing the more gung ho stuff people wanted. Maybe too gung ho. Agree some of his subs have been dodgy (Albrighton on and Ulloa off but I believe that was tactical and not linked in that way. Leo had hardly been in the game and we'd conceded with Mahrez not tracking back. Nuge caused havoc for QPR last season so him coming on for an ineffectual striker was logical. Mahrez not defending so swapping one wide player for another who defends more to keep them shape is also logical. They were killing us down our right and De Laet was isolated. Even in his short shift Albrighton did more defending than Mahrez. Yes, I get that he is probably our best crosser and maybe Ulloa cloud have benefited from him being on. Jeff was ok though so I think it was fair to keep him on. Finally, on replacing with a new manager. The Guardian ran an article last season about this... Will let that stand... http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/mar/17/manager-sacking-reading-premier-league
ithuriel Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Will see how I feel after this week but if we lose another two on the trot I would say he has had enough time to not be failing so badly, at the end of the day though it will be the boardroom that decides his future here if he cant get a win.
C-man Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Irrespective of our league standing, Pearson has completely restored my pride in the club twice (first spell and after the Sven debacle) then took it to a whole new level with last year's Championship destruction. He has assembled a squad of players (many of them young with the ability to develop) who appear to love playing together, who have represented our team and City well and several of them have close to or more than 100 appearances already. Getting a settled team that are proud to wear the shirt is worth more to me than just staying up if that comes at the cost of £30m on six-month mercenaries led by someone like Pulis. Staying up with Pearson and this team would mean so much more to me, personally. Unlike some, I will support us unreservedly whatever division we are in as long as we retain dignity towards those who have served us so well, and demonstrate some self-respect. As a group - that's the players, the Manager and the backroom staff - they deserve our undying support this season. With it, we can stay up.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Irrespective of our league standing, Pearson has completely restored my pride in the club twice (first spell and after the Sven debacle) then took it to a whole new level with last year's Championship destruction. He has assembled a squad of players (many of them young with the ability to develop) who appear to love playing together, who have represented our team and City well and several of them have close to or more than 100 appearances already. Getting a settled team that are proud to wear the shirt is worth more to me than just staying up if that comes at the cost of £30m on six-month mercenaries led by someone like Pulis. Staying up with Pearson and this team would mean so much more to me, personally. Unlike some, I will support us unreservedly whatever division we are in as long as we retain dignity towards those who have served us so well, and demonstrate some self-respect. As a group - that's the players, the Manager and the backroom staff - they deserve our undying support this season. With it, we can stay up. This post could have been written for last season. And I agree with much of it.This season, one can't overlook what appears to be happening: The players don't look to be enjoying their football and 'playing together'. The balance in the team is missing. Some players that excelled last season, look really out of sorts this season We've not signed enough quality So, whilst I'm with you, and still with Pearson, we do need to look beyond last season's massive success and examine what is happening in the here and now. We need points, we need them quickly and we need to start showing that we can again win football matches. Anything else (at present), is hot air really mate. There's so much talk at present, we need to see results now.. Ps..I know, and I think you do too, that it will take more than just 'support'. That matters, of course, but first and foremost Pearson must get a settled side and a couple of wins under his belt. It is a cliche that we 'must win' games. However, the longer we go without winning, the more 'must win' they become. Starting tonight really. Good post though buddy..
Guest MattP Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 I wanna see him in the stand with a xmas hat on just to see the reaction on here. With 'bah humbug' written on the white bit at the front.
Stadt Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 You're right. That's why I'm not even going to bother responding to this post, despite there being so much wrong with it.Have you changed your mind about Pearson, cjslcfc?
Bunyip Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Should stay, but he's gonna be in a massively difficult situation if we got into Christmas bottom. The owners will probably want a change, and if they don't, who would join us in Jan, any better than what we have now? The next few games are very big ones both for Pearson and the club. We need to win tomorrow to get some points and to instill some confidence in a squad that is dangerously near to caving. IMO. Thing is though Col we have been saying the next few games are very big ones since we beat Man united given the opposition we had, and we blew it against the sides we needed to beat to have any chance of staying up . Just wait until we come up against the big boys again.
cecchini Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 the fight we showed during the Man united game is what we need. We seem to have burnt all of our energy on that alone. Lets be realistic, no one thought the prem was going to be a walk in the park. Nige needs to build experience just as much as the players do. Am convinced he has what it takes to win survival. But in the end we have to fight, never give up and above all Keep the faith
Babylon Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 This kind of thing always has varied opinions. Stick & hopefully we get out of this current mess, stick & get relegated put all our faith in him with no guarantees of going straight back up, sack him get someone in they keep us up happy days, or we sack him & the new manager does just as bad. Things are very close, but still the football we have been playing hasn't been particularly great. I said this the other week, if we were playing well but losing I would have a bit of faith, but it's the fact we couldn't even score against the likes of West Brom & Sunderland at home is quite a concerning thing. We haven't been on the end of a thumping, but still our football hasn't been promising we have looked plain average. January isn't an easy month to buy in, seems he struggled to attract certain players in the summer, and quite frankly with him in charge I can't see January being any different. A more experienced name who has been there and done it, might attract better players tbh. Having a great set of Championship players probably won't keep us up, look at us now and you can easily pick off 5-6 players who aren't cut out for it, people seriously suggesting you would be happy to stick with the likes of De Laet & Konchesky until May? I wouldn't! He has done wonders for this football club, but at certain times managers can only take a team so far, and that might be the case with Pearson. Fair points, although I think it's harsh to blame him entirely for the summer, as like I've said before without knowing all the information it could as easily be the boards fault for not wanting to spend. Pulis seems to be the popular choice, will he really do any better in January? His summer recruitment at Palace hardly sets the pulse racing. We wanted Campbell, they wanted Campbell, he's been after Ulloa before for Palace. We're highly likely to end up with exactly the same sort of players he was getting at palace as a lot of signs point to us running a tight ship financially as Palace were. As I said I leave it firmly in the hands of the owners, they know all the facts and they have shown they are now not the sort of people to make rash decisions. I'd be sorry to see Pearson go as behind the press straight bat I think he's a good person and I share the morals he seems to work with. Whatever the results on the pitch I will always appreciate how he goes about things and always feel like he does have the best interests of the club at heart.
zak_lcfc Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 I'm split really, I want what's best for the club and if that mean post-Villa/Christmas time sacking Pearson then so be it, I appreciate what he's done for the club but some managers just haven't got the ability to manage at this level, he did a great job getting us here but getting relegated because of sentimental values isn't best for the team. I want for everyone's sake for him to turn it around and get us in that 17th spot come the end of the season anyway possible. The issue I have like many is that if we wait too long and nothing changes then the new manager has little time to make the necessary changes to the club on the flip side our fortunes may change and we might be in a decent position come Christmas. The nature of the business is down to results, 2 wins and we are comfortable and can relax a little however 2 more losses and I'll understand if the owners are considering bringing somebody else in, at the moment the Villa game looks likes the next/only place we could possibly pick up points in the next month or so in my opinion, we've got a tough run of games and so I fear for Pearson's future at the club!
cjslcfc Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Have you changed your mind about Pearson, cjslcfc? From what? I post on here so much it's hard to keep track of what is said... I've pretty much always had faith in Pearson. It's slowly diminishing but the improved performances of late have given me encouragement. I just think there's a lot of "the grass is greener on the other side" stuff going on for some fans. To me, the results of this poll are telling and, in fact, the majority of Leicester fans are backing Pearson to get us out of this rut. The main thing for me is how hard it is to prove that doing things differently in previous games would have got us a better result. It's all well and good fans having their opinions on wingers, the diamond, Pearson sitting in the stand etc... but they are nothing more than opinions. Some may try and disguise them as facts but in the end no-one can prove that doing so would have got us a better result. In that sense, you can only really judge the manager on results and performances. Results have been very poor and there was a point where performances were also poor (Swansea away, Southampton away, WBA at home etc...). However, I think the last two games have been an improvement and we really aren't far off turning a corner. I think we've been unlucky not to take more points from the Sunderland and QPR games and we have shown more creativity in those two matches than in all the matches combined between the Man Utd and Sunderland games. It's funny because people talk about not getting battered being a good thing, then others complain that a loss is a loss (no matter how we perform) and the rest just want us to "have a go" if we are going to go down. I think you started a very good thread on contradictions the other day and I very much agree with it all. Pearson can't win over all fans. However, it would be good to start picking up more points! I also think, ultimately, it's a learning curve for all of us. Players, fans and the manager are all new to the league as it is right now and we need to have a little more patience and perspective. I feel that the change that would come about from sacking Pearson is too much, considering how it is his side he has built over a few years. The Thais have also been building the club, both as a brand and with infrastructure from the youth right up to buying the stadium. I think they see Nigel as the man to take their project forward and will have learnt from expensive past mistakes that it's not always the right thing to be short-termist and sack the manager after a little struggle. I and they could be wrong and Pearson could turn out to not be up to it at this level. Phrases such as "tactically inept" are often thrown about with little thought, almost like buzzwords for when a manager or team is struggling. I don't think this is the case for us, I just don't think some of the players have stepped up to the mark and Pearson may have had too much faith in the squad. Who knows what difficulties came up with transfers in the summer so I can't automatically blame him for that. That leaves me thinking that he is the right man, he's turned it around before and even though he's shown signs of naivety (well, what I perceive to be naivety) I think he will turn it around again. We've already started to improve and, hopefully, tonight is a turning point. Personally, it's still too early to tell what the rest of the season has to offer. That is, apart from the fact we are in a relegation fight. But who didn't know that anyway??
foxsake123 Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 We are trying to build something here and Pearson is and should be part of that. If we win the next 2 games we will be out of the relegation zone and he will be a king again. Football fans have very short memories and I am sure we are all (including me) been guilty of that at some time There's no 'building' in football any longer. You're thinking of a bygone age. Football is an arms race. Whether this is good or bad is irrelevant. You've got to move in same direction as your contemporaries.
Harry - LCFC Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 There's no 'building' in football any longer. You're thinking of a bygone age. Football is an arms race. Whether this is good or bad is irrelevant. You've got to move in same direction as your contemporaries. What exactly did Pearson do from the 2012 January transfer window to the start of the 13/14 season then?
Raj Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Ive done more u turns than a woman driver at a roundabout(if thats possible!) Ive come to the conclusion that the club and pearson have made massive mistakes in not strengthening during the summer especially as we knew well in advance we aere getting promoted. However we are NOT THAT far away from a 17th place team,which is all we need to be this season. Theres alot of crap down there and we CAN staill get that place. Its taken us years to get here and its taken us years to hang onto a manager and get some stability. Lets not start firing managers again as soon as we hit a blip. Even the likes of Liverpool,Newcastle,Arsenal were or ARE talking of firing their boss!!
ImBlue Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 Ive done more u turns than a woman driver at a roundabout(if thats possible!) Ive come to the conclusion that the club and pearson have made massive mistakes in not strengthening during the summer especially as we knew well in advance we aere getting promoted. However we are NOT THAT far away from a 17th place team,which is all we need to be this season. Theres alot of crap down there and we CAN staill get that place. Its taken us years to get here and its taken us years to hang onto a manager and get some stability. Lets not start firing managers again as soon as we hit a blip. Even the likes of Liverpool,Newcastle,Arsenal were or ARE talking of firing their boss!! Few problems with this post. 1) it's not a blip 2) there is a lot of crap, but we are too, so pointless saying it.
foxsake123 Posted 2 December 2014 Posted 2 December 2014 What exactly did Pearson do from the 2012 January transfer window to the start of the 13/14 season then? Okay let's explore 'building' using a building analogy. In days of yore a house would be built foundation upwards. Nowadays the 'building' is actually just redecorating, some lucky ones even manage a loft conversion or a conservatory. But that's as far a building teams goes nowadays.
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