Jace Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Please explain how pearson was to blame today! I can't think of a thing he could have done differently to get a better performance from them today For me Cambiasso and Vardy are our 2 most creative players in our squad. Leaving them both out today I could never have done I can understand why he wanted to mix it up a bit but for me at least 1 of them has to start
TheUltimateWinner Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 To the two posts above, I asked for an explanation of how he was to blame which you can't giveGood performance, players gave it there all, on to next weeks loss.We're always on the wrong side of these margins, whether it be to defensive errors or lack of being clinical up front. These haven't been ironed out since the start of our slump. Match day tactics were good, subs could have been earlier but still not a problem, it's on the training ground where the errors in players ways and qualities aren't being put right.
Landsend Fox Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 It's a known fact at least one or two newly promoted teams go straight back down to the Championship... seems we drew the short straw.. oh well
Jace Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 For me at the moment Pearson plays his hardest working team, this worked fantastically last season in the Championship where our squad of players was 1 of the best in the Championship but in the Premiership we need to be playing more of the players that are different and can win a game. We need those players like Cambiasso and Vardy playing otherwise who is there really in the team who is good enough to have that added quality to win at this level? We haven't had this bad run of so many games just because we are unlucky Burnley and QPR have adapted better because they have those match winners in Ings and Austin.
DB11 Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 For me Cambiasso and Vardy are our 2 most creative players in our squad. Leaving them both out today I could never have done I can understand why he wanted to mix it up a bit but for me at least 1 of them has to start You should change your username to Joker
Jace Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 You should change your username to Joker Whys that?
The Doctor Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 For me Cambiasso and Vardy are our 2 most creative players in our squad. Leaving them both out today I could never have done I can understand why he wanted to mix it up a bit but for me at least 1 of them has to start Vardys been playing poorly, Cambiasso is too old to play 4 games in 8 days, he was always going to need to be rested at some point in this section. We played very well today and frankly deserved all three points.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Vardys been playing poorly, Cambiasso is too old to play 4 games in 8 days, he was always going to need to be rested at some point in this section. We played very well today and frankly deserved all three points. Your'e convinced that your favourite was 'rested' aren't you? I wonder if he was dropped? Heaven forbid!!! lol
nettle Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 2 pts out of 39 that's all you need to know Pearson out.
inckley fox Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 To the two posts above, I asked for an explanation of how he was to blame which you can't give So some people blame Pearson for the loss and can't come up with an explanation - what's yours then? It can't be the same old 'individual errors' argument, because we scored a goal and very nearly got a couple more from individual moments of brilliance today, and we can't discount individual errors while simultaneously counting individual excellence. Both are part of the 'all-round performance' people talk about. As for what Pearson could have done: many, many things, a lot of which may not have worked, some of which would have. But this is the difference between a good manager and a failure; one falls the right side of these 'fine lines' (and can we really still keep arguing that the margins are fine when we're on one of the worst runs in the PL's, and our, history?) and the other falls on the wrong side. But managers and coaching staff are not powerless. They could have spent yesterday coaching set pieces for a start. And on top of that, there are more question marks over our coaching staff after this game. Two different goalkeepers this season have conceded goals purely because of positioning from free kicks, so surely there's another issue which needs looking into on the training ground. And, coaching aside, there's team selection. It's hard to argue a home side deserves to win a game when they are so totally out of the game for the first 25 minutes. And the reason was an appallingly leaky defence which could have conceded more in this game, and in the last game, but which remained unchanged between the two. On top of that we were slow with our substitutions and didn't at any point utilise one of our most creative players, in spite of chasing the game. I'm not saying that all of the above changes were necessary, but this was not an unwinnable game and, for the 13th game running, we didn't win it. If this was a defeat, or two or three defeats in isolation, then we could talk about fine margins. But after two points from thirteen games we can't do that. These are some of the widest margins in PL history. I'm behind Pearson. But he's spent so long looking for the positives, that he must be asking himself whether it's time to look instead at the glaring negatives, and begin to figure out how to correct them. Because lightweight defending, goalkeeper positioning, failing to track a man, failing to defend / zonal marking from set pieces, poor clearances, poor distribution from the back, missing chances, poor offensive set pieces... these aren't new problems. It's time we saw progress in these areas, as well as in our work-rate and intent.
Landsend Fox Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong? We were told - need to consolidate our position in the Premier League the first season. £180 Million made available by the owners Owners state - we will be fininshing in the top 6 within 3 seasons? Was I dreaming??? Is someone lying here???
oxfordfox Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong? We were told - need to consolidate our position in the Premier League the first season. £180 Million made available by the owners Owners state - we will be fininshing in the top 6 within 3 seasons? Was I dreaming??? Is someone lying here??? It has been obvious for months that Pearson is out of his depth. Let's have a new manager now and allow him the January window...
BigMicky Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong? We were told - need to consolidate our position in the Premier League the first season. £180 Million made available by the owners Owners state - we will be fininshing in the top 6 within 3 seasons? Was I dreaming??? Is someone lying here??? You are wrong, points 2 and 3 were misquoted/ taken out of context....
sylofox Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong? We were told - need to consolidate our position in the Premier League the first season. £180 Million made available by the owners Owners state - we will be fininshing in the top 6 within 3 seasons? Was I dreaming??? Is someone lying here??? So if the sun said we would win the prem next season you would believe it? Nothing you have put means we stay up and you really think 180m in 6 years puts us in europe? 180m ove 6 years puts us mid table unless we are very lucky.
BigMicky Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 It has been obvious for months that Pearson is out of his depth. Let's have a new manager now and allow him the January window... How is he out of his depth? Tactically spot on today, over the 90 mins we were better than them....
Merging Cultures Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 So some people blame Pearson for the loss and can't come up with an explanation - what's yours then? It can't be the same old 'individual errors' argument, because we scored a goal and very nearly got a couple more from individual moments of brilliance today, and we can't discount individual errors while simultaneously counting individual excellence. Both are part of the 'all-round performance' people talk about. As for what Pearson could have done: many, many things, a lot of which may not have worked, some of which would have. But this is the difference between a good manager and a failure; one falls the right side of these 'fine lines' (and can we really still keep arguing that the margins are fine when we're on one of the worst runs in the PL's, and our, history?) and the other falls on the wrong side. But managers and coaching staff are not powerless. They could have spent yesterday coaching set pieces for a start. And on top of that, there are more question marks over our coaching staff after this game. Two different goalkeepers this season have conceded goals purely because of positioning from free kicks, so surely there's another issue which needs looking into on the training ground. And, coaching aside, there's team selection. It's hard to argue a home side deserves to win a game when they are so totally out of the game for the first 25 minutes. And the reason was an appallingly leaky defence which could have conceded more in this game, and in the last game, but which remained unchanged between the two. On top of that we were slow with our substitutions and didn't at any point utilise one of our most creative players, in spite of chasing the game. I'm not saying that all of the above changes were necessary, but this was not an unwinnable game and, for the 13th game running, we didn't win it. If this was a defeat, or two or three defeats in isolation, then we could talk about fine margins. But after two points from thirteen games we can't do that. These are some of the widest margins in PL history. I'm behind Pearson. But he's spent so long looking for the positives, that he must be asking himself whether it's time to look instead at the glaring negatives, and begin to figure out how to correct them. Because lightweight defending, goalkeeper positioning, failing to track a man, failing to defend / zonal marking from set pieces, poor clearances, poor distribution from the back, missing chances, poor offensive set pieces... these aren't new problems. It's time we saw progress in these areas, as well as in our work-rate and intent. Great post.It's not fine lines, margins and being unlucky. It's poor positioning, defending and final touches. Play well and you make your own luck. I was of the opinion that we hadn't been playing badly, but now I think the other teams are "not getting out of second gear" and we are playing poorly and gifting them wins. This comes from poor coaching and how we are approaching the games. I know NP seems to be in to the sports science stuff, but now I think we need to go back to really understanding how the game is played. Including playing dirty when needed.
paulsherwood1 Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 How is he out of his depth? Tactically spot on today, over the 90 mins we were better than them.... Im sck of hearing how we are always playing so well, or how the performance was good. Absolute crock. It's about points. We got none. Again.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 So some people blame Pearson for the loss and can't come up with an explanation - what's yours then? It can't be the same old 'individual errors' argument, because we scored a goal and very nearly got a couple more from individual moments of brilliance today, and we can't discount individual errors while simultaneously counting individual excellence. Both are part of the 'all-round performance' people talk about. As for what Pearson could have done: many, many things, a lot of which may not have worked, some of which would have. But this is the difference between a good manager and a failure; one falls the right side of these 'fine lines' (and can we really still keep arguing that the margins are fine when we're on one of the worst runs in the PL's, and our, history?) and the other falls on the wrong side. But managers and coaching staff are not powerless. They could have spent yesterday coaching set pieces for a start. And on top of that, there are more question marks over our coaching staff after this game. Two different goalkeepers this season have conceded goals purely because of positioning from free kicks, so surely there's another issue which needs looking into on the training ground. And, coaching aside, there's team selection. It's hard to argue a home side deserves to win a game when they are so totally out of the game for the first 25 minutes. And the reason was an appallingly leaky defence which could have conceded more in this game, and in the last game, but which remained unchanged between the two. On top of that we were slow with our substitutions and didn't at any point utilise one of our most creative players, in spite of chasing the game. I'm not saying that all of the above changes were necessary, but this was not an unwinnable game and, for the 13th game running, we didn't win it. If this was a defeat, or two or three defeats in isolation, then we could talk about fine margins. But after two points from thirteen games we can't do that. These are some of the widest margins in PL history. I'm behind Pearson. But he's spent so long looking for the positives, that he must be asking himself whether it's time to look instead at the glaring negatives, and begin to figure out how to correct them. Because lightweight defending, goalkeeper positioning, failing to track a man, failing to defend / zonal marking from set pieces, poor clearances, poor distribution from the back, missing chances, poor offensive set pieces... these aren't new problems. It's time we saw progress in these areas, as well as in our work-rate and intent. Excellent post sir
Merging Cultures Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 How is he out of his depth? Tactically spot on today, over the 90 mins we were better than them....How's that work when they won?!It's a team game, they scored more goals, and they won. If we were better, we'd have won.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 I said for the past few days, lose the next two and we need to change Pearson to have much chance of avoiding relegation. If we are resigned to going down, then keep him. I say once more, if we accept relegation, then keep him..there's no point in changing. But we've lost today, despite playing better, and if we lose again tomorrow, we need a change. No real City fan could accept a return of 2 points from a possible 42. I say again, no real City fan could, or should, accept that. If we amass 2 points from 42, that's SHITE!
dayday Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 I actually think it will be no point in sacking Pearson,I have in the past,yet I think we will go straight back up in a counter. Pearson will have learnt a hell of a lot from this season,our bench alone today would be frightening to championship teams alone. We have a lot of young players on long contracts,who will only get better,I cannot see to many leaving. Get a new manager in,to much upheaval,to much disruption. We will probably be worse off,if we get relegated,so be it,I still think Pearson is the best man for the job.
Corky Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Pearson if you read this (which I highly doubt you do since you are an arrogant ****) please please please admit defeat and do the honorable thing and leave Pearson is arrogant for not reading this forum and the ramblings of anonymous posters typing on keyboards? Get Pulis in, he'd sign up and chat away to us freely.
MC Prussian Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 For me Cambiasso and Vardy are our 2 most creative players in our squad. Leaving them both out today I could never have done I can understand why he wanted to mix it up a bit but for me at least 1 of them has to startMaybe he was saving them for Hull?
Fox92 Posted 26 December 2014 Posted 26 December 2014 Our performance today was an improved one, and yes I'm disappointed we've lost again, but it's a fine line today because we didn't play bad. The first twenty/twenty five minutes were appalling and if that carried on throughout the game I'd have got today's reaction but we were generally unlucky today. Hull is a must, must win though for everyone involved with the club.
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