nnfox Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Right, this season has been a huge disappointment. Going into the season I was sure we would be comfortably mid-table. It hasn't worked out like that. What I would say though is this: We are in the Premier Leagues and we still have 10 games to play - quarter of the season! Let's enjoy it while we are here and get behind the club. We have to fight until we are mathematically finished. We have to support the players and we have to support the manager. It has all been said before but Pearson has done really well for us in the past although we might have to concede that he has come up a bit short in the PL. I'm not sure who I'd rather have in the Championship though if that's where we are next season. I'd just like to point out that the 13 game winless streak after the Man Utd game is what has killed us. Every now and again teams will go on good runs and bad runs for a variety of reasons. It was our turn to go on a bad run then which was terrible timing. Interestingly, having secured just 2 points from that run, we have managed 17 points from the other 15 which averages at 1.13 pts per game. If sustained over a whole season would be worth 43 points and good enough for at least 15th in each of the last 10 PL seasons. Now, to stay up this season, we need to exceed that and would need 6 or 7 wins from our remaining 10 games. A tall order by anyone's standards I'll admit. But look at the fixtures, with the exception of Chelsea, if we'd drawn any of those teams in a cup competition I'd be thinking that on our day we could win against any of them! Nigel Pearson is clearly a man under pressure and the strain is really starting to show imo. Some (OK most) of his tactical decisions lately seem to have been a bit weird and it's OK for us to be disappointed/upset/angry/dismayed about our predicament but let's draw a line in the sand here and as fans show the team that we are up for the fight and we are not giving in. We can't change or influence what has happened in the past but we can be a positive influence for the rest of the season. Let's stop with all the negativity and enjoy the rest of the season because whatever division we are in next season, whoever the manager is, whatever players are still with us, we will still be Leicester City supporters and we will carry on doing so.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Absolutely. It's a difficult job keeping a club like Leicester in this division and I still think the clubs long term future is to be a Premier League club, even though we might have to traverse an unexpected blip in the road in the short term. We have a core squad who won 102 points last year on 4 year contracts.
locky494 Posted 17 March 2015 Posted 17 March 2015 Best thing I've read, as highly unlikely it is that we will survive now and even myself being hugely frustrated with pearsons decision making, it is what it is and until a 'R' is next to our name, we shouldn't just throw in the towel. who would have thought last year after 32 games, Sunderland sitting 7 points off safety with man city, man united and Chelsea still to play would survive? But in football anything can happen and change quickly, 5 games unbeaten, including 4 wins and they survived with a game to spare! Who would have also thought we would make the play offs a couple of years back after that horrific run, even on the last game against forest it looked far from likely with bolton needing to lose and us finally winning at forest but it did! This isn't saying I believe we will stay up because I don't but whilst there is hope...
Swiss_tony Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Right, this season has been a huge disappointment. Going into the season I was sure we would be comfortably mid-table. It hasn't worked out like that. What I would say though is this: We are in the Premier Leagues and we still have 10 games to play - quarter of the season! Let's enjoy it while we are here and get behind the club. We have to fight until we are mathematically finished. We have to support the players and we have to support the manager. It has all been said before but Pearson has done really well for us in the past although we might have to concede that he has come up a bit short in the PL. I'm not sure who I'd rather have in the Championship though if that's where we are next season. I'd just like to point out that the 13 game winless streak after the Man Utd game is what has killed us. Every now and again teams will go on good runs and bad runs for a variety of reasons. It was our turn to go on a bad run then which was terrible timing. Interestingly, having secured just 2 points from that run, we have managed 17 points from the other 15 which averages at 1.13 pts per game. If sustained over a whole season would be worth 43 points and good enough for at least 15th in each of the last 10 PL seasons. Now, to stay up this season, we need to exceed that and would need 6 or 7 wins from our remaining 10 games. A tall order by anyone's standards I'll admit. But look at the fixtures, with the exception of Chelsea, if we'd drawn any of those teams in a cup competition I'd be thinking that on our day we could win against any of them! Nigel Pearson is clearly a man under pressure and the strain is really starting to show imo. Some (OK most) of his tactical decisions lately seem to have been a bit weird and it's OK for us to be disappointed/upset/angry/dismayed about our predicament but let's draw a line in the sand here and as fans show the team that we are up for the fight and we are not giving in. We can't change or influence what has happened in the past but we can be a positive influence for the rest of the season. Let's stop with all the negativity and enjoy the rest of the season because whatever division we are in next season, whoever the manager is, whatever players are still with us, we will still be Leicester City supporters and we will carry on doing so. Are you including hull in the winnable category?
ozleicester Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Ive tried, i really have, but i dont think i can convince myself that we have any chance of survival, but more disappointingly, i dont think im going to see us play decent football again this year. Its not the supporters that need positivity, its the manager and players, they are the ones playing five at the back every game, lacking any real creativity or threat... to scared to risk anything. If you dont gamble, you cant win.
ithuriel Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Positive? I try to be every match but over the course of the season and seeing them steadily getting worse rather than better it is hard, especially when you sit down to watch them and you see the kind of stuff they are playing now. At the Dull game one of the guys near me said it was like watching paint dry but not as exciting.
st albans fox Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 I made this point in the post match thread. Quite a few of us had convinced ourselves that the season started on Saturday. That the players and manager knew this was crunch time and we would see the 'master plan' revealed! However, after twenty five minutes, I turned to my son and said 'it's the same shit isn't it?'. He looked at me and nodded.
Claridge Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 I made this point in the post match thread. Quite a few of us had convinced ourselves that the season started on Saturday. That the players and manager knew this was crunch time and we would see the 'master plan' revealed! However, after twenty five minutes, I turned to my son and said 'it's the same shit isn't it?'. He looked at me and nodded. The shit at home getting worse. Then again the team and formation is getting worse every game
Benguin Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 The thing is, the manager and players don't seem to understand the frustration of the fans. We pay a lot of money to watch a game and don't want to see 5 at the back, a lack of positivity or the same 30+ year olds representing us. Of course I support my team, but it's a bit hard to be cheery towards them when they cost me money and time every week.
ScouseFox Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 love that an attempt to steer away from the same boring shit as every single other thread on the forum and be a bit positive only gets 9 replies and over half of them are just people saying no don't, be negative anyway. great place this.
Gerard Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 We have decent players IMO and man for man are no worse than any other team in the bottom six. We have 10 games left and in 8 of those we can go into them with realistic expectations to win them. We just need to find some belief and form and a week can be a long time in football. I'm targeting Sunderland, QPR and Burnley to get relegated. We have to play all three and if we can win them all the league table would look like this: Hull Pld 29 Pts 28 Leicester Pld 31 Pts 28 Aston Villa Pld 29 Pts 28 ------------------------------------ Sunderland Pld 30 Pts 26 Burnley Pld 30 Pts 25 QPR Pld 30 Pts 22 Sunderland two points behind us with a game in hand. We have seven games left, five of those at home. I can dream can't I?
cityfanlee23 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 The thing is, We have a game in hand (albeit against chelsea) If we win that by some form of miracle, (stranger things have happened) we are only 4 points adrift with 8 games to play... everything to play for... IF WE WERE IN ANY SORT OF FORM OR EVEN LOOKED LIKE SCORING This escape with NOT come with Nigel Pearson at the helm. He cannot get his tactics right, He doesn't know his best team, He cannot get his subs right, and the players no matter how much they say they are, are not confident in themselves or their boss. MARTIN JOL NOW. 100% rather go down with him and keep him in charge than nigel, and he could get us playing.
Donut Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 This place is never going to be positive, because the manager is a divisive figure, and on that basis, no one will ever be able to pull together anymore. The situation is too far gone, differences cannot be reconciled.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 MARTIN JOL NOW. 100% rather go down with him and keep him in charge than nigel, and he could get us playing. . Ask Fulham fans (and I know a couple) what they think of Martin Jol and how likely they were to stay up under him.
Mark_w Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 This place is never going to be positive, because the manager is a divisive figure, and on that basis, no one will ever be able to pull together anymore. The situation is too far gone, differences cannot be reconciled. It was pretty positive last season, having reached a similar level to this the year before. So I think you're wrong to assume that 'this place is never going to be positive'. When things are positive people will be more positive, at the moment things are going badly which obviously divides people. The forum can be positive under Nigel Pearson, if he stays and we rip the league apart (which is unlikely), then it'll be positive again. People are fickle.
Donut Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 It was pretty positive last season, having reached a similar level to this the year before. So I think you're wrong to assume that 'this place is never going to be positive'. When things are positive people will be more positive, at the moment things are going badly which obviously divides people. The forum can be positive under Nigel Pearson, if he stays and we rip the league apart (which is unlikely), then it'll be positive again. People are fickle. All fair points, i just think the situation is too far gone now. I dont see this club being turned around into a successful position again without change.
Mark_w Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 The thing is, We have a game in hand (albeit against chelsea) If we win that by some form of miracle, (stranger things have happened) we are only 4 points adrift with 8 games to play... everything to play for... IF WE WERE IN ANY SORT OF FORM OR EVEN LOOKED LIKE SCORING This escape with NOT come with Nigel Pearson at the helm. He cannot get his tactics right, He doesn't know his best team, He cannot get his subs right, and the players no matter how much they say they are, are not confident in themselves or their boss. MARTIN JOL NOW. 100% rather go down with him and keep him in charge than nigel, and he could get us playing. MARTIN JOL HAS NEVER MANAGED IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. NIGEL PEARSON HAS FINISHED IN THE TOP 6 EVERY FULL SEASON HE'S HAD IN CHARGE OF LEICESTER CITY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Plus my post is just as bold and capitalised as yours and in a slightly larger font so I'm right.
cityfanlee23 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 . Ask Fulham fans (and I know a couple) what they think of Martin Jol and how likely they were to stay up under him. Alot more than who they replaced him with. Speak to spurs fans about him.
cityfanlee23 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 MARTIN JOL HAS NEVER MANAGED IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. NIGEL PEARSON HAS FINISHED IN THE TOP 6 EVERY FULL SEASON HE'S HAD IN CHARGE OF LEICESTER CITY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Plus my post is just as bold and capitalised as yours and in a slightly larger font so I'm right. Neither had pearson until he did. Jol's record is far superior.
Donut Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Why is "never managed in the championship" a term bandied about as if it disqualifies someone from doing a good job? Aitor Karanka had never managed in the championship Slavisa Jokanovic had never managed in the championship Alex Neill had never managed in the championship Mark Warburton had never managed in the championship And thats this season alone. You cant underestimate the damage this season has done, and the effect it will have going into next when talking about a manager who has never missed the top 6 in a full season.
Mark_w Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Neither had pearson until he did. Jol's record is far superior. Jol has managed much better clubs, often in slightly easier leagues. I'm not sure we can read a great deal into that, there's nothing to suggest he's capable of achieving results in the division we'll be in next year, when there is lots of evidence that Nigel Pearson may well achieve success in the Championship next year. I'm not saying he's a bad manager, but I really don't think it would be a sensible decision.
cityfanlee23 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Jol has managed much better clubs, often in slightly easier leagues. I'm not sure we can read a great deal into that, there's nothing to suggest he's capable of achieving results in the division we'll be in next year, when there is lots of evidence that Nigel Pearson may well achieve success in the Championship next year. I'm not saying he's a bad manager, but I really don't think it would be a sensible decision. Then we go up with a manager who has the worst home record in the division and one of the worst records in premier league history. so we then sack a manager who has just got us promoted?? and replace him with a manager who now has a few months to learn his new squad and change the way they play to suit his tactics
Mark_w Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Why is "never managed in the championship" a term bandied about as if it disqualifies someone from doing a good job? Aitor Karanka had never managed in the championship Slavisa Jokanovic had never managed in the championship Alex Neill had never managed in the championship Mark Warburton had never managed in the championship And thats this season alone. You cant underestimate the damage this season has done, and the effect it will have going into next when talking about a manager who has never missed the top 6 in a full season. Neither had Felix Magath or Kit Symons. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to do well, of course I'm not. I just think it's a completely unecessary risk to appoint someone with no Championship experience, when we have someone with a great Championship record employed by the club already.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Alot more than who they replaced him with. Speak to spurs fans about him. Spurs finished in Europa League qualification, like they do every season. Not exactly pulling up trees.
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