Captain... Posted 2 April 2015 Posted 2 April 2015 Why are all disabled bays next to the supermarket, someone in a wheelchair needs space to get out the car, same with a parent and a pushchair once out the car they are as capable as anyone of travelling across the car park, I mean if they can negotiate the aisles of a supermarket. Obviously there are exceptions such as a 90 year old who is ok inside but has difficulties outside but really there is no need for every disabled parking space to be by the entrance.
DB11 Posted 2 April 2015 Posted 2 April 2015 Why are all disabled bays next to the supermarket, someone in a wheelchair needs space to get out the car, same with a parent and a pushchair once out the car they are as capable as anyone of travelling across the car park, I mean if they can negotiate the aisles of a supermarket. Obviously there are exceptions such as a 90 year old who is ok inside but has difficulties outside but really there is no need for every disabled parking space to be by the entrance. Because it's not as black and white as blue badge = wheelchair? My dad doesn't have a wheelchair or even a walking stick, but it will still take him about 5 minutes to walk the shortest of distance so needing to walk from the far side of the car park would take a very long time.
Rincewind Posted 2 April 2015 Posted 2 April 2015 A note on the car windscreen saying 'blue badge in the post' ? although anyone could do this. I think the OP was just unlucky with who he encountered. He may have had other encounters with people who did not need the space and actually forced him to park further away from where he was shopping. Not all places have as many spaces available. He may have heard the 'temporary disabled' line more than once.
yorkie1999 Posted 2 April 2015 Posted 2 April 2015 The thing that annoys me is when you go into b&q car park and its rammed, apart from 8 disabled spaces which you can't park on.
RonnieTodger Posted 2 April 2015 Posted 2 April 2015 Sounds like in this instance it was forgiveable. Unless a disabled convoy rock up and you were truly in pain, then common sense should prevail. If there were 12 available, it seems as if the other bloke just wanted to be outraged without a reasonable logic.
PAULCFC Posted 2 April 2015 Posted 2 April 2015 You physically cannot get a baby seat out of the car in some car parks, which is off putting to people with kids, so obviously the shops want to make it easier. THIS....And it makes it a hell of a lot easier without your 4 year old bashing your car door against other cars when he gets out.
stuartn27 Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 When you see some people with a blue badge you think yeh right I bet 30% are on a benefit scam Times I walked past a disabled bay. See the people return to their car Nothing wrong with them Then I guess there's hundreds who should get one don't
Rincewind Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 My brother has a blue badge. He is not 'disabled' to the eye ie. walking stick, wheelchair crutches etc. but he sometimes has to use an oxygen cylinder so to anyone that does not know he looks perfectly OK which is where presumptions occur unless you have x-ray vision and can see the cylinder under his coat. I will add that he does not always use the disabled space. if the rest of the car park is full or he is in an area that has restricted parking he may do. He may also use it if with his missus or our mum so they do not have to walk so far. My mum is in her eighties. Walking is good for him as it keeps the circulation going but he gets out of breath after a while so needs the cylinder.
Webbo Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcyM-vTqb3s&list=RDvcyM-vTqb3s#t=31
Captain... Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 Because it's not as black and white as blue badge = wheelchair? My dad doesn't have a wheelchair or even a walking stick, but it will still take him about 5 minutes to walk the shortest of distance so needing to walk from the far side of the car park would take a very long time. That is why I said all disabled spaces, and said obviously some people need to be closer but not all disabled people do. So why not have some wider spaces further away for wheelchairs and push chairs then you can have more limited mobility spaces near the entrance.
Jimothy Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 When you see some people with a blue badge you think yeh right I bet 30% are on a benefit scam Times I walked past a disabled bay. See the people return to their car Nothing wrong with them Then I guess there's hundreds who should get one don't They seem alright at sight by an untrained person watching them walk across a car park, so therefore they must be fine and not need a badge! Brilliant! How long have you worked for ATOS?
DennisNedry Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 I've never parked in one but in the OP's position I probably would have. The key is how many disabled spaces are available. If there's loads empty and you're not depriving someone of a space then I don't see a problem.
Guest Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 I've never parked in one but in the OP's position I probably would have. The key is how many disabled spaces are available. If there's loads empty and you're not depriving someone of a space then I don't see a problem. I think you'd have the right.
Guest Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 I imagine that councils will soon have spaces for exceptionally fat people with extra clearance for getting out of the car.
DB11 Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 I imagine that councils will soon have spaces for exceptionally fat people with extra clearance for getting out of the car. Like this?
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 3 April 2015 Posted 3 April 2015 It's easy for people to take the moral high ground on an anonymous internet forum, but I wouldn't use it. Without all the facts it appears to be selfish (I'm talking about seeing a vehicle in a disabled bay without a blue badge, not the OP scenario) but I don't know the procedure to procure a blue badge or how straightforward it is. My dad has a blue badge and it's quite annoying when he isn't able to get a space in a disabled bay and has to park further away and struggles to walk - some days are better than others. There has been many occasions when my dad's blue badge has been in the vehicle I have been driving but I don't use it to park where I shouldn't I just park where I can. I imagine some people would misuse it and use a blue badge that wasn't theirs. The misuse of the blue badge is very common, and I used to relentlessly hunt the offenders down on my patch, and issue tickets. If I could I, would always confront them, and bollock them in a nice Police friendly manner. It was often easy to catch the cheats. The badges have letters on them to identify the user as an adult male, and adult female, and, a male or female child. Some people weren't aware of this, and would" borrow" other peoples badges, and insist they were their own. These were the ones that I liked to catch, as they are the real cheats. There is also a large black market for stolen cards, which would sell for £50-£100. During one of the house searches I did, I came across a drawer with over sixty stolen disabled badges in it.. Happily the gentleman in question went down for that, and also possession of drugs. In the scenario of the above thread, I would have used my discretion, and probably, if I thought it was genuine.would have turned a blind eye.
Rincewind Posted 19 April 2015 Posted 19 April 2015 Just found this. I don't think its Parafox though. Similar incident that turned nasty. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-confronts-able-bodied-driver-parking-5547773
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 20 April 2015 Posted 20 April 2015 If there's like 6+ of them and they're all empty and you know you're only going to be using it for a few minutes then don't see a problem with it, but if you're taking up the last space to go round the supermarket for an hour you're probably a bit of a twat.
stripeyfox Posted 20 April 2015 Posted 20 April 2015 Man it p1sses me off when people park in disabled or parent/child space when they shouldn't. I get that it's probably not illegal but it's still wrong. I mean if I own a supermarket, and I decide "those ten spaces are for disabled and those 10 spaces are for parents with kids" then those are the rules. So why do some people just think "fcuk that, I'll just park there!" Another thing which really gets up my nose is when parents with kids park in the parent/child spot, but then leave the kids in the car whilst they nip in the shop!
Vacamion Posted 20 April 2015 Posted 20 April 2015 I would never park in a disabled space, even when there are loads spare, but I have no problem using the sole disabled bogs in a pub or restaurant if the gents is full. On reflection, I'm inconsistent.
Rincewind Posted 20 April 2015 Posted 20 April 2015 I've used the disabled loos in pubs if the gents are up or down stairs. My excuse is my age and struggle with stairs sometimes. Don't do it often though.
Haydos Posted 20 April 2015 Posted 20 April 2015 I went to the park the other day and every space was taken up except 2 disabled bays at the front. Was it cool to park there? Are they disabled priority or disabled only? Feel like it's bullshit if it's the latter.
city187 Posted 20 April 2015 Posted 20 April 2015 I went to the park the other day and every space was taken up except 2 disabled bays at the front. Was it cool to park there? Are they disabled priority or disabled only? Feel like it's bullshit if it's the latter. Your within your rights to park across ways over both bays. **** um.
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