Thanks and Apologies to Nigel Pearson

[Babylon]

Faith is a metaphysical thing.

It's not bound by logic, reality facts or figures.

I'd say people have faith in him because of what he's done before. So there is certainly some basis to it with facts.

[Babylon]

What a legend the bloke is from league one to premier league safety. Another season where we've improved on the one before, amazing stuff.

 

Forget the promotions and the accolades. Sometimes the most important thing is to feel proud of your team and I always do feel like that with him in charge. Even if results are going badly I've never looked at any of them and thought they don't care or aren't trying.

[Guest Col city fan]

I'd say people have faith in him because of what he's done before. So there is certainly some basis to it with facts.

Absolutely..

The point I was trying to make was at the time (just after Christmas), we were playing like stink..not being hammered but on an appalling run of results.

The facts and figures made scary reading then, you will agree?

But some people had faith in Pearson which, absolutely would have been based partially on prior achievements. But also on a 'feeling ' he'd get it right.

[AndWhat?]

What a legend the bloke is from league one to premier league safety. Another season where we've improved on the one before, amazing stuff.

 

Forget the promotions and the accolades. Sometimes the most important thing is to feel proud of your team and I always do feel like that with him in charge. Even if results are going badly I've never looked at any of them and thought they don't care or aren't trying.

 

Exactly how I feel. 

 

Nigel Pearson's biggest achievement is creating a team we can be proud of. 

[Babylon]

Exactly how I feel. 

 

Nigel Pearson's biggest achievement is creating a team we can be proud of. 

I've just looked at the final 13 games of the season. We only lost 4 in the last 13 and they were to Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs.... that last one annoys me as we'd have drawn that bugger as well if it wasn't for the ref.

[hackneyfox]

Proud of my team and what they've achieved over the season, especially if we end up 13th.

If like to see a bit more consistency next season rather than these runs which seem to be an NFP speciality.

I've just looked at the final 13 games of the season. We only lost 4 in the last 13 and they were to Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs.... that last one annoys me as we'd have drawn that bugger as well if it wasn't for the ref.

That's an amazing set of results.

[hackneyfox]

I've just looked at the final 13 games of the season. We only lost 4 in the last 13 and they were to Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs.... that last one annoys me as we'd have drawn that bugger as well if it wasn't for the ref.

That's an amazing set of results.

[Livid]

Honestly I wanted him gone but not for his personality. I don't care if he has bust ups with fans, players (ours or the oppositions) or journalists just as long as the team was performing.  He seems abrasive at times but i'm  certain he doesn't care if you love or hate him.

 

For a large part of the season we weren't performing and it didn't appear that he could see a way of turning it around.

 

Fair play to him, he kept the players on side and believing they eventually came to life with a bang.

 

More than happy for him to stay, just think this season has been a learning curve for everyone involved with the club, management, players, back room staff, those fans who doubted him.

 

Hopefully next season we will be the better for it.

 

On a final point Stringer is a bit of a prat but they really need to patch this thing up with Radio Leicester.

[EnglishOxide]

So changing twice is frequent? I wanted him gone,especially with all the off field chananigans.he stayed he proved us wrong I couldn't be more happy.what he and the team have just pulled off is a minor miracle and anyone who when we were stuck on 19 points was thinking we could possibly finish on 41 is a liar.

Some people are never satisfied we have had threads asking for those people who wanted him gone to show their face and when we do its fickle.what do you want? That we still want him gone then?

After the Cardiff playoffs people wanted him out.

Then he re arrived and people were happy.

Then we went on a bad run in the Watford playoff season and people wanted him out.

After the United win people loved him and wanted him to stay.

Christmas time a fair amount wanted a new manager.

After Hull many lost the faith and even more wanted a new manager.

Now its all good and people are happy to see him stay.

Please tell me how that isn't fickle. People say it's a results business but that's bollocks. If it was, they would look at the improvement of our club every season under his reign. Pearson rebuilt this team from the ground up. Its his empire. He has delivered the goods time after time.

Imagine if the owners couldn't hold their nerve and sacked the manager during every tough period. My betting is we would be worse off. I'm also betting that the next time we go through a tough spell the critics will be showing themselves up again.

I'm not trying to say 'I told you so' because I admit doubts were starting to creep in about whether we could stay up, but I knew all along that we were nowhere near mathematically down whilst others were proclaiming it. I knew the manager had the backing of the team, was on the edge of turning the fine margins in our favour and that he had also masterminded escapes before.

[Bettsj2]

After the Cardiff playoffs people wanted him out.

Really?

[Babylon]

Really?

I remember quite a few, blamed him for not attacking in the first leg.

[elvis f kennedy]

After the Cardiff playoffs people wanted him out.

Then he re arrived and people were happy.

Then we went on a bad run in the Watford playoff season and people wanted him out.

After the United win people loved him and wanted him to stay.

Christmas time a fair amount wanted a new manager.

After Hull many lost the faith and even more wanted a new manager.

Now its all good and people are happy to see him stay.

Please tell me how that isn't fickle. People say it's a results business but that's bollocks. If it was, they would look at the improvement of our club every season under his reign. Pearson rebuilt this team from the ground up. Its his empire. He has delivered the goods time after time.

Imagine if the owners couldn't hold their nerve and sacked the manager during every tough period. My betting is we would be worse off. I'm also betting that the next time we go through a tough spell the critics will be showing themselves up again.

I'm not trying to say 'I told you so' because I admit doubts were starting to creep in about whether we could stay up, but I knew all along that we were nowhere near mathematically down whilst others were proclaiming it. I knew the manager had the backing of the team, was on the edge of turning the fine margins in our favour and that he had also masterminded escapes before.

I like the fact that you are one of the few who backs his arguments up without name calling and insults,for the people with different opinions.after reading that in hindsight you are correct,the guy as done wonders for this club and I hope I don't question him again,after so many times proving me wrong.one thing I won't apologise for is wanting the best for our wonderful club.i think 10 years of utter shit as took its toll on me.love the bloke for keeping us up this year though.

[hackneyfox]

I remember quite a few, blamed him for not attacking in the first leg.

I did

[Babylon]

I did

^^^^^^

He did.

[Fox Ulike]

Faith is a metaphysical thing.

It's not bound by logic, reality facts or figures.

It shouldn't be..its metaphysical

Regarding Pearson, no-one KNEW whether he would get success this season. But some simply felt it. They believed in him, they had faith in his ability to learn and to motivate his players.

And rightly so too.

Fair play to Una, Mark w, the Doc, Scouse and the like for having such faith.

Personally I said make a change after Christmas. Then slowly I could see little improvements happening, so much so I laid an hundred on us avoiding relegation.

Myself, that wasn't really about faith in Pearson as such, it was about seeing with my own eyes where some of the wrongs were being righted.

I have no qualms with people who have faith in something. In this case, it's proven founded.

 

Well in that case I felt it too.

 

Before each of those games in fact, I had faith that we could win it. And I never stopped believing that if we won enough games that all those 3 points would add together and ensure that our overall points total would be enough to survive.

 

I never lost the faith in mathematics. 

 

6 x 3 = 18. BELIEVE.

 

[EnglishOxide]

I like the fact that you are one of the few who backs his arguments up without name calling and insults,for the people with different opinions.after reading that in hindsight you are correct,the guy as done wonders for this club and I hope I don't question him again,after so many times proving me wrong.one thing I won't apologise for is wanting the best for our wonderful club.i think 10 years of utter shit as took its toll on me.love the bloke for keeping us up this year though.

No probs. Its good to debate. It can get people to open up and come out with a different or more enlightened perspective sometimes

I don't even think you need to apologise, our form results wise under Nige can be very streaky sometimes so it does test threshold of the fans.

If the results and points haul this season and the 12/13 season were more evenly spread out then there would be fewer people who had ever jumped on the 'Pearson Out' wagon I think.

[Captain...]

Darkest moment for me was after the Hull game, our chance to gain 3 points, we even had a helpful refereeing decision, but the team and the inability to go for it at the end and then Nigel calling a journo a ****, it was just too much, I accepted our fate, we were relegated and if they had sacked him then I would have been ok with that.

 

I didn't call for his head, but if the owners had sacked him after blowing the Hull game then I wouldn't have been upset by that decision. 

 

I won't apologise for it though, I never booed him or the players, I never talked shit on the radio or had a go at other fans for supporting him, I would always join in with Pro Pearson chants (except Spurs away when I was sitting in the home end). It was a completely rational to think we were done for after Hull, and that Nigel had failed, there is a massive difference between thinking the worst and turning on the manager.

[Guy]

Proud of the fact I never considered sacking Pearaon as a good thing, I remember waking up after each game checking the news worried that he'd be gone.

This season has proved one certain thing, we have some of the most thickle fans I've ever known

Indeed, I was dismayed when he left for Hull.....

[Bettsj2]

I remember quite a few, blamed him for not attacking in the first leg.

I remember that but not that it was attached to wanting him out. Just that he was too cautious in the first game. From memory, when he did leave that summer, the general consensus was one of anger towards Mandric for letting him go.

[Bettsj2]

No probs. Its good to debate. It can get people to open up and come out with a different or more enlightened perspective sometimes

I don't even think you need to apologise, our form results wise under Nige can be very streaky sometimes so it does test threshold of the fans.

If the results and points haul this season and the 12/13 season were more evenly spread out then there would be fewer people who had ever jumped on the 'Pearson Out' wagon I think.

That is definitely true.

This clump of good form is fantastic but not really something that is likely to happen if in the same position again.

The hope is that NP and his staff truly have learned lessons this year and next year we see a more consistent level of results. If so, we wont have anywhere near the amount of disagreement on here or indeed in the stands.

[Swiss_tony]

I have eaten plenty of humble pie.

It's very filling, but you can never have too much.

 

Let's take the rose tinted glasses off for a minute though.

Congratulating him for the escape is like rewarding a 5 year old who's chucked their dinner on the floor, and then been told to pick up the mess and put it in the bin.

He took us to the bottom in the first place.

If he hadn't messed around with formations for 20 games imagine where we might've ended up.

first five games we were great, last 10 we've been great.

The common factor is the high press high tempo game we had such success with last year.

something fans like me were calling for week after week of the dross that was served up oct-mar.

so if congratulating him because he finally did what any fan with a sound understanding of football tactics was calling for then yes i congratulate him on listening and learning.

Now we need some quality signings in the summer to move on to the next level.

[HighPeakFox]

I have eaten plenty of humble pie.

It's very filling, but you can never have too much.

 

Let's take the rose tinted glasses off for a minute though.

Congratulating him for the escape is like rewarding a 5 year old who's chucked their dinner on the floor, and then been told to pick up the mess and put it in the bin.

He took us to the bottom in the first place.

If he hadn't messed around with formations for 20 games imagine where we might've ended up.

first five games we were great, last 10 we've been great.

The common factor is the high press high tempo game we had such success with last year.

something fans like me were calling for week after week of the dross that was served up oct-mar.

so if congratulating him because he finally did what any fan with a sound understanding of football tactics was calling for then yes i congratulate him on listening and learning.

Now we need some quality signings in the summer to move on to the next level.

 

Although this could be argued true on face value, I suspect there were many factors behind the scenes that we will never know about - if it were that easy, we'd all be in charge. I would take issue with the general tone however - it is so finger-pointy and simplistic, and the opening analogy is crass in extreme.

[Mike Oxlong]

No humble pie for me, even though I wanted Pearson gone after the Villa game on the basis that two thirds of the way through the season I didn't feel that he had learned from his mistakes. The selection for the Hull game did nothing to change my mind. But since then there has been a massive change of intent and even if we had gone down I would have said keep Pearson on the basis that he had at last illustrated adaptability, reflectiveness and a willingness to play to our strengths. No regrets about my earlier opinions and no need to apologise to anyone. I always considered that there were reasonable arguments both ways. Mine came down on one side of the fence and have altered according to the criteria that I felt important as to whether Nigel should stay or go. Unless you were abusive to others who held a different opinion to your own I really don't get all this apology stuff.

[Swiss_tony]

Although this could be argued true on face value, I suspect there were many factors behind the scenes that we will never know about - if it were that easy, we'd all be in charge. I would take issue with the general tone however - it is so finger-pointy and simplistic, and the opening analogy is crass in extreme.

let's make it less crass.

We're congratulating a person for doing the job they were supposed to be doing, but didn't do very well for 20 weeks resulting in us being in the mess he is being praised for getting us out of.

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[hackneyfox]

let's make it less crass.

We're congratulating a person for doing the job they were supposed to be doing, but didn't do very well for 20 weeks resulting in us being in the mess he is being praised for getting us out of.

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Spot on