Guest ttfn Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 For us this season? Pretty much was. As it's been pointed out you had your opinion at the time and it's turned out to be totally unfounded in the long run. Very similar to the earth being flat infact. Total respect for the original poster, The people who use the "I was right at the time" and the "we've changed things to what I suggested" when that's about as far from the truth as possible are the ones that make me laugh. Just wrote a long retort to this and lost it but to come back to Matthew Syed's piece in The Times the other day, "the rational man proportions his belief to the evidence". The evidence in March was that we were going down (pretty much "everything" for our season as you'd put it). We were bottom of the league with 19 points from 29 games and 2 wins from 24.
Strokes Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Just wrote a long retort to this and lost it but to come back to Matthew Syed's piece in The Times the other day, "the rational man proportions his belief to the evidence". The evidence in March was that we were going down (pretty much "everything" for our season as you'd put it). We were bottom of the league with 19 points from 29 games and 2 wins from 24. All true, but the evidence was misleading.
Guest ttfn Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 All true, but the evidence was misleading. Evidently, with the benefit of hindsight, this is true. As I said at the time I didn't think we deserved to be where we were, but after the same stuff kept happening week after week the only logical conclusion was that we probably did deserve to be there somehow or other.
sylofox Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Why does anybody have to be right. People view the game differently, people have different perspectives. Some people find things acceptable, some people don't. I found his stubbornness in refusing to change things up, and subsequent consistent losses unacceptable. Why people find the need to persist with this my cock is bigger than your cock, I was right you were wrong nonsense is beyond me. Enjoy the night as one and stop with the finger pointing. It's pathetic. Praps some of this is due to the fact people backing Nige got such a slagging. Some that said we would stay up got a slagging. Not from you Larry but from many. Gloating today yes I am. We have stayed up Nige has done the job. You can't blame anyone for saying to them that abused people for keeping the faith from having the moment.
Strokes Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Evidently, with the benefit of hindsight, this is true. As I said at the time I didn't think we deserved to be where we were, but after the same stuff kept happening week after week the only logical conclusion was that we probably did deserve to be there somehow or other. I've said earlier I could understand this opinion, even wanting him sacked. What I didn't understand was the abuse the manager took on here, appalling behaviour. If someone could have shown me a viable candidate for the job in Feb/March I'd have probably conceded that it was best to part ways and I'd have been wrong too.
skmanuk Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 When the euphoria dies down lets get things in perspective. At the start of the season the general view of the footballing community was that we should do ok. Pearson has managed to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat by the skin of his teeth. If just surviving is your idea of success then you lack ambition. It remains a fact that some of his tactics have been inept, and his personal behaviour needs some attention. I am over the moon with the result but I think the owners will have a serious think about whether Preason is the man to take us up the table next season. In the meantime my congratulations to manager and team but .. Changes are needed.
Larry_LCFC Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Praps some of this is due to the fact people backing Nige got such a slagging. Some that said we would stay up got a slagging. Not from you Larry but from many. Gloating today yes I am. We have stayed up Nige has done the job. You can't blame anyone for saying to them that abused people for keeping the faith from having the moment. I've said my piece. I'm off to get slightly intoxicated. Enjoy the night people. We are staying up!
Guest ttfn Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 I've said earlier I could understand this opinion, even wanting him sacked. What I didn't understand was the abuse the manager took on here, appalling behaviour. If someone could have shown me a viable candidate for the job in Feb/March I'd have probably conceded that it was best to part ways and I'd have been wrong too. Absolutely agree with this - some don't like Nigel and were basically waiting for us to fail so they could have a go at him again. Personally I thought Pearson had just stopped being Pearson and that's why I thought a change was in everybody's best interests. But as you say there wasn't really a viable alternative anyway. And Nige is back to his positive best now anyway so it's all worked out lovely.
Strokes Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Absolutely agree with this - some don't like Nigel and were basically waiting for us to fail so they could have a go at him again. Personally I thought Pearson had just stopped being Pearson and that's why I thought a change was in everybody's best interests. But as you say there wasn't really a viable alternative anyway. And Nige is back to his positive best now anyway so it's all worked out lovely. Deffo, I'm stopping my tirade now. Looking back was a bit childish and daft. I hope everyone enjoys the survival
Corky Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 When the euphoria dies down lets get things in perspective. At the start of the season the general view of the footballing community was that we should do ok. Pearson has managed to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat by the skin of his teeth. If just surviving is your idea of success then you lack ambition. It remains a fact that some of his tactics have been inept, and his personal behaviour needs some attention. I am over the moon with the result but I think the owners will have a serious think about whether Preason is the man to take us up the table next season. In the meantime my congratulations to manager and team but .. Changes are needed. If you are still looking for this after four or five years then absolutely. In the first season survival is what is required. It's not inconceivable that we finish 13th with 41 points and seven points above safety. Now, had those points been more evenly spread I reckon the view would've been that we've had a solid first season. Of course, questions should be asked as to why we've won 6 in 8 after 4 in 29 and that is an issue that needs to be addressed, but Pearson has done what was asked. Lessons need to be learned and thankfully we haven't taken a backward step to learn them.
fuchsntf Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Too all anti-Pearson groups, who made themselves heard loudest from end-October upto April. Many I couldnt say I disagreed, with your reasons, some just posted sloppy , belittling posts. I wont take credit, for something I didnt Post myself, but Babylon did put a great post out, on the contradictary characteristics of many contra-Pearson posts.critic on team set up or player choices arguments, lack of PL experience, just went over the top,without any logical thought out statement. City like West Ham for years, in the old days used to keep to their managers, I have never believed in sacking managers,even when relegation is considered failure.Our super clubs, thats something else, but the good and avg clubs should follow a simple saying...'Be carefull for what you wish for'. Yes there are times where absolutely everthing doesnt fit, and no connection Or interface built between any of the Players or club, and all the fans.The club aint working... With Nigel Pearson that was never the problem. I hope Hull and Bruce stay together. This total hogwash over his post game interviews, we are talking football, we are talking nonsense, nothing mindboggling political, world or society changing critical issues. 100 top managers have done worse and dished out or been low and ignorant to the outside world, and havent suffered the infintile crap, put at his door. Nigel Pearson, I believed and still believe, has unfinished business with LCFC.HE just might reach that dream for the club (No matter what it may be!!) that MON didnt even stay to complete. Took Ferguson 7 years to click..!!
Littletoe Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 When the euphoria dies down lets get things in perspective. At the start of the season the general view of the footballing community was that we should do ok. Pearson has managed to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat by the skin of his teeth. If just surviving is your idea of success then you lack ambition. It remains a fact that some of his tactics have been inept, and his personal behaviour needs some attention. I am over the moon with the result but I think the owners will have a serious think about whether Preason is the man to take us up the table next season. In the meantime my congratulations to manager and team but .. Changes are needed. Pearson should and Will take us into next season. Everybody, especially the media have tried to exploit him all season, it's been disgusting. He isn't perfect and he has made some mistakes, but it's 100% clear he has learned from them. In regards to being tactically inept at times, i agree to a very small extent, however he has changed our approach to games recently and it has worked, it's called learning your craft and improving. This isn't the Championship anymore, we are in the biggest league on the planet facing some of the best managers of modern day football.... Seems like you're being pessimistic about him staying on next season, forgetting what this bloke has done for this club and achieved this season, Shame on you...
trabuch Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Pearson has done so fvcking much for this club. Well done to the owners for keeping him on.
Raj Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 I had a laugh at a few delusional ones on here when they were still rubber optimistic and I apologised soon after. Hope everyone involved with LCFC has an enjoyable time after this...even maybe Kitchandro!!!!
Finnaldo Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Fair play to those admitting they were wrong and wants them out, but I feel that it's harsh to blame individuals for feeling like it was time for Nige to move on, at a time when we were struggling to find any kind of result. I was mostly on the fence, I would have liked him to stay and been slightly downtrodden if he left but I could understand it. Fair play he's really turned it round as he always has and really proved that he has the potential to take Leicester places in the Premier League.
theessexfox Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 I'd like an apology from Col to Una taking the piss for the tears after NP's fake sacking, what a man he is.
Unabomber Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 I'd like an apology from Col to Una taking the piss for the tears after NP's fake sacking, what a man he is. this
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Pity folk who doubted Nige. I doubted him, and now have to say, well done sir. No apologies from me though, as his decision making in the first two thirds of the season was dreadful, and put us on the rack. Just at the right time he saw sense, and turned things around. Now, get your signings right this summer, as I couldn't take another season like this one. I would like to do some celebrating, but lying in a hospital bed, doesn't give me a chance. Good on you Pearson, and the boys..
Spudulike Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 ...and when we have a bad patch next season all this crap will start up again #Fickle
Unabomber Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 No apologies from me though shock I'd like an apology from Col to Una taking the piss for the tears after NP's fake sacking, what a man he is. Me or Nige?
STUHILL Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Good to see some posters who wanted him sacked admit they have been proven wrong, but can't help think that they will all be out in full force again as soon as we have another bad run.. Some people will never learn, no matter how many times they may get it wrong. Anyway, all water under the bridge now! ENJOY Optimists and Pessimists alike!!
Stevosevic Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 ...and when we have a bad patch next season all this crap will start up again #Fickle There are bad patches, and then there is not winning a game for 3 months...twice.
trabuch Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 He's ours. And we are lucky to have him. He will keep us up next season. (I did have a bit of doubt after Hull - but I'm only human)
Strokes Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 There are bad patches, and then there is not winning a game for 3 months...twice. Yeah doesn't come without good patches though does it? That's what needs to be remembered.
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