Haydos Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 No apologies from me though, as his decision making in the first two thirds of the season was dreadful, and put us on the rack. But you doubt him every single season, every time something's going wrong you call for his head and profess that he's not good enough, not up to standard. Yet every. single. time. he proves you wrong and you never have the balls to say that you were wrong. And you know what, as soon as we have a bad patch next here you'll do exactly the same. It's funny really, the people that repeatedly want him gone often claim he 'never learns' when it's actually them that never learn.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 You have touched on my argument though. This squad is pretty much 95% Pearsons doing. Hence you stick with it. Once he wasn't sacked in Nov/Dec, you run the risk of upsetting a squad.I've touched on it cos I didn't agree with it.Sherwood, for instance, has taken the squad that Lambert built, got them safe and got them to the FA cup final..within a few months. And Pardew has done wonders with the Palace squad. There is no hard and fast. Sometimes retaining your manager works, sometimes not.
foxfanazer Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 But you doubt him every single season, every time something's going wrong you call for his head and profess that he's not good enough, not up to standard. Yet every. single. time. he proves you wrong and you never have the balls to say that you were wrong. And you know what, as soon as we have a bad patch next here you'll do exactly the same. It's funny really, the people that repeatedly want him gone often claim he 'never learns' when it's actually them that never learn. It's great. I can just imagine them smashing up their keyboards in anger knowing Nige is still going to be here next season. Even funnier when he was sacked and came back
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 It's great. I can just imagine them smashing up their keyboards in anger knowing Nige is still going to be here next season. Even funnier when he was sacked and came back Im personally on keyboard number 6. Or is it 7. I can never remember..
foxinsocks Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 four faces of Nigel Pearson - he learns slowly and doesn't respond to "advice" - hence we started making mistakes or being our witted in November... and it took some time to address - Nigel ensured the players and the staff never gave up - and when things turned round it still needed persistence and focus to get the job done - his is sensitive to personal criticisms (his claim that journalists were criticising players was just his way of say that they were criticising him)and he gets "pulled in to messy situations" - with fans and press... and even McArthur - he likes stable sensible grown up players... I think Nigel can make us a safe mid table club - and maybe that's what we need to do in the next few seasons - to reach higher we will need more sophistication and an ability to manage "highly strung thoroughbreds" - which maybe he will grow into. I wonder if there will be ambition to take LCFC to the top 4? But for now I would be happy becoming a Southampton. (PS: their result yesterday makes our result last week look exceptional)...
stox259 Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 Never wanted him to go. I'll tell you who the maddest bloke in the world is right now. The guy who Nigel told to F off and die . I bet he was desperate for relegation and Nigel's dismissal. I hope he didn't actually F off and die but I bet we don't see him at the king power for a while ;-)
JonesLCFC Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 Whoever said "Hopefully he falls off his bike and requires knee surgery like Redknapp." needs to apologise. What a disgraceful thing to say about a manager who has been nothing but a credit to the club.
BoneDog Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 Yeah big thanks to Nigel and all the lads. They've pulled off an incredible escape with a run most teams can only dream of. We had a very decent start to the season but then it started to look a bit 'doom and gloom'. I nearly turned on Nige at some point when we were on 19 points. Thought he'd gone a bit mental, but am so glad that he wasn't sacked. Love the guy and am very happy that he can relax for a bit now.
ImBlue Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 I now look back at all his crazy interviews and can laugh! Didn't find them funny bottom of the table. Fair play though, I for one thought he was delusional with the confidence he had, but guess I was wrong and it came together. Look forward to next season.
Out Foxed Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 Was never worried, new we were better than at least 3 teams. When people were saying to sack Pearson I didn't agree, because who was there to be brought in? It's not like we haven't been on a shit run under Pearson before and pulled it out the bag. A lot of people on here are just negative for the sake of it, which to be honest is a bit of a Leicestershire trait.
iamafox Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 I'll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. Credit to Pearson and the players for turning our season around when it looked like all hope was lost. I hope Nigel has learned from his mistakes and will not make them again next season.
Mike Oxlong Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 There's that many people beating themselves up about wanting Nige out that the QPR game could look something like one of those Shia festivals
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 But you doubt him every single season, every time something's going wrong you call for his head and profess that he's not good enough, not up to standard. Yet every. single. time. he proves you wrong and you never have the balls to say that you were wrong. And you know what, as soon as we have a bad patch next here you'll do exactly the same. It's funny really, the people that repeatedly want him gone often claim he 'never learns' when it's actually them that never learn. You clearly ignored the post where I admitted I was wrong, but that is the general trait of your inept responses.
EnglishOxide Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 My only hope is that those who did get it massively wrong and lost the faith learn next season not to be so fickle. Its alright coming in here and showing your face now, but if we struggle next season then please don't turn on our manager and players so quickly. Someone earlier in the thread said they would only start questioning the manager if the performances were consistently shit. I think that's a good rule to follow generally.
elvis f kennedy Posted 17 May 2015 Posted 17 May 2015 My only hope is that those who did get it massively wrong and lost the faith learn next season not to be so fickle. Its alright coming in here and showing your face now, but if we struggle next season then please don't turn on our manager and players so quickly. Someone earlier in the thread said they would only start questioning the manager if the performances were consistently shit. I think that's a good rule to follow generally. How is it fickle? He took us on the worst run,any other club would have sacked him not to mention we did sack him.he turned it round which is great but it's a highly unusual situation.
EnglishOxide Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 fickle adjective: fickle; comparative adjective: fickler; superlative adjective: ficklest changing frequently, especially as regards one's loyalties or affections. That's how its fickle. Things can change very quickly in football. The fact that even before the Hull game many were saying we were 'already down' yet now are crowing showing they were happy to be proved wrong shows fickleness. I just hope when we go through a tough time again people will consider more than just a bad run of results before calling for the managers head. A lot of our fans turn on the club before the pundits even do which I just can't get my head around.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 Was never on the 'Pearson OUT' bus but had there not been that remarkable end to the season and relegation followed, then he wouldn't have had many complaints had he lost his job, and I said that on here a couple of times. Made mistakes, on and off the field, hopefully he can learn from them. Be nice if he shows more of the side some of us see than the rather flat media persona. That said, he is what he is and how he comes across in the press doesn't make much difference to the players. One of his great strengths is keeping the dressing room tight and together; the players never stopped playing for him; of course some players not involved or who feel harshly treated will have a moan but overall they have massive respect for him. Be nice if we can develop a bit more positive consistency next season and move forward but the points at the end of the season count the same regardless of when you get them.
Steven Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 Is that what happened to Sergio hellings? He died in a car accident, didn't he?
Steven Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 All true, but the evidence was misleading. By the same token, the evidence of the last eight games is misleading.
MattGamble92 Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 Is that what happened to Sergio hellings? According to wikipedia he has some how managed 4 goals in 0 games. Sign him back up!
elvis f kennedy Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 fickle adjective: fickle; comparative adjective: fickler; superlative adjective: ficklest changing frequently, especially as regards one's loyalties or affections. That's how its fickle. Things can change very quickly in football. The fact that even before the Hull game many were saying we were 'already down' yet now are crowing showing they were happy to be proved wrong shows fickleness. I just hope when we go through a tough time again people will consider more than just a bad run of results before calling for the managers head. A lot of our fans turn on the club before the pundits even do which I just can't get my head around. So changing twice is frequent? I wanted him gone,especially with all the off field chananigans.he stayed he proved us wrong I couldn't be more happy.what he and the team have just pulled off is a minor miracle and anyone who when we were stuck on 19 points was thinking we could possibly finish on 41 is a liar.Some people are never satisfied we have had threads asking for those people who wanted him gone to show their face and when we do its fickle.what do you want? That we still want him gone then?
klrice Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 The best place is be on the touchline, that in the stands on a laptop GREAT ESCAPE FOR THE FOXES.
Fox Ulike Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 My only hope is that those who did get it massively wrong and lost the faith learn next season not to be so fickle. Its alright coming in here and showing your face now, but if we struggle next season then please don't turn on our manager and players so quickly. Someone earlier in the thread said they would only start questioning the manager if the performances were consistently shit. I think that's a good rule to follow generally. Having ‘faith’ in anything is simply deluding yourself. Having 'faith' isn't a valid opinion, it's just hoping. We all hoped, so just because you say you had 'faith' doesn't make you right about anything. Faith is a state of mind, not an opinion that can be right or wrong. Anyone who can do maths had ‘faith’ that we could stay up. I had ‘faith’ that we could win 6 of 7 games and survive. 6 x 3 = 18 points. That's my 'faith'!! It was just very unlikely to happen. That’s not being ‘fickle’, that’s having an intelligent opinion about the situation that faces you, and being able to change your opinion as circumstances change. I thought we were dead and buried after Hull 0-0 Then after Swansea I thought we had an outside chance. After Burnley I thought we had a good chance of surviving After Newcastle I thought we would probably stay up. My opinion changed four times. That’s not being fickle, that’s just adapting to changing circumstances. Before you have a go at your fellow fans, you need to understand that there’s a key difference between people who thought we were relegated, and those who took to this forum to personally insult Pearson and denigrate his previous achievements with us. Those who personally insulted Pearson and said he was ‘clueless’ are idiots. They were idiots then, and they’re idiots now. If we had been relegated, they would still have been idiots who don’t understand football.
Simi Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 I turned after the Cup match at Villa Park and I'm not sorry at all. That performance was typical of the negative shite we had been delivering week in week out and at that time smacked of a side who were probably already down not giving a shit about an opportunity to take this club to Wembley. I'm glad I have been proven wrong about us being down but I had every right to be angry with some of the football we were seeing which is what got us into the predicament we were in in the first place. Pearson does deserve great credit for turning things around and there's nobody I would rather see leading us to success. I've always liked the man, whatever I've thought of the football at times this season. But I always thought our squad was good enough to survive and I maintain that we should have been more comfortable than we have been throughout this season. This is exactly the stance I had. I had always been a huge backer of NP but that match in particular infuriated me beyond belief which led me to being ok with it if he was to be sacked. That performance was an absolute disgrace and I couldn't see a way out because he seemed insistent on sticking with 5 at the back. Thankfully he changed it just in time and he deserves credit for that. I am delighted he's still in charge and fully back him to continue to take us forward.
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 May 2015 Posted 18 May 2015 Having ‘faith’ in anything is simply deluding yourself. Having 'faith' isn't a valid opinion, it's just hoping. We all hoped, so just because you say you had 'faith' doesn't make you right about anything. Faith is a state of mind, not an opinion that can be right or wrong. Anyone who can do maths had ‘faith’ that we could stay up. I had ‘faith’ that we could win 6 of 7 games and survive. 6 x 3 = 18 points. That's my 'faith'!! It was just very unlikely to happen. That’s not being ‘fickle’, that’s having an intelligent opinion about the situation that faces you, and being able to change your opinion as circumstances change. I thought we were dead and buried after Hull 0-0 Then after Swansea I thought we had an outside chance. After Burnley I thought we had a good chance of surviving After Newcastle I thought we would probably stay up. My opinion changed four times. That’s not being fickle, that’s just adapting to changing circumstances. Before you have a go at your fellow fans, you need to understand that there’s a key difference between people who thought we were relegated, and those who took to this forum to personally insult Pearson and denigrate his previous achievements with us. Those who personally insulted Pearson and said he was ‘clueless’ are idiots. They were idiots then, and they’re idiots now. If we had been relegated, they would still have been idiots who don’t understand football. Faith is a metaphysical thing. It's not bound by logic, reality facts or figures. It shouldn't be..its metaphysical Regarding Pearson, no-one KNEW whether he would get success this season. But some simply felt it. They believed in him, they had faith in his ability to learn and to motivate his players. And rightly so too. Fair play to Una, Mark w, the Doc, Scouse and the like for having such faith. Personally I said make a change after Christmas. Then slowly I could see little improvements happening, so much so I laid an hundred on us avoiding relegation. Myself, that wasn't really about faith in Pearson as such, it was about seeing with my own eyes where some of the wrongs were being righted. I have no qualms with people who have faith in something. In this case, it's proven founded.
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