Premier League stars' racist orgy shame caught on camera during Thailand tour

[Merging Cultures]

Been out of the loop most of the weekend.

I don't agree with the media obsession that footballers are role models, but they were representing the club on this trip and that behavoir is unacceptable, most likely gross misconduct and even if its not there should be zero tolerance for racism, and after due process wouldn't be surprised to see them dismissed & would like for that to be the case.

Don't know if it has been said over the previous pages, but would people feel differently if it was a first team star as opposed to dev squad players?

 

I am with you that players are not role models, and I don't think they are heroes either. They were on official business, so if it was a first team star, then yes, they should also be fired for gross misconduct.

[Babylon]

Woke up this morning and I'm astonished to find Tom Hoppers arsehole such a hot topic of debate. Surely this shouldn't detract from the racist comments these prats have made.

Only one of them seemed to make a racist comment (not sure if I've seen the full thing or not), and if I were to give racist comments a scale, it was probably fairly low down in that scale. But that's only my opinion.

[Babylon]

Radio 1 news headlines top story!

We are massive.

Slow news day then.... I still don't think people are aware that they are essentially a bunch of nobodies unlikely to ever even kick a ball for us in the league.

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

I find it astonishing that you are complaining of the acts that have taken place in the video and you think these guys should be sacked.

If you are getting on your high horse about this, then I assume you all are really anti gay and take great offence at gay people being together. Because, I am not sure if you know or not, but are you aware of the normal sexual practices of gay men?

Surely this is more outrageous than one of them having his bum rimmed in a video?

Just have a think about what all that involves. I am pretty sure being gay doesn't stop at walking down the street and holding hands.

Either you are all missionary men, or like I said earlier, Take A Break readers who desperately like to see people fall and are after their next fix of helping someone fall down.

Get over it, move on, worry what is going on in your own lives and let others do what they want to do as long as it's legal.

Thailand is full of whores and you can be sure as you could be that the birds involved got exactly what they wanted that night. It is their job. Normal life over there. They got their money.

Come on you guys, if you are disgusted by this, start an anti gay thread as the things they do surely must cause you outrage.

You have seriously missed the point! Don't think anyone on here particularly cares about the specific sex acts, each to their own. The racism and misogynism are deplorable and inexcusable.

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

Slow news day then.... I still don't think people are aware that they are essentially a bunch of nobodies unlikely to ever even kick a ball for us in the league.

In fairness the newsreader did state that they are ACADEMY players

[Ollie93]

Don't know if it has been said over the previous pages, but would people feel differently if it was a first team star as opposed to dev squad players?

 

Don't think you'd see Cambiasso doing it.

[Babylon]

In fairness the newsreader did state that they are ACADEMY players

Blimey!! Not "premier league star" then.

[Bettsj2]

If they were 3 blokes who'd booked their own holiday, gone out there and done this, peoples defence of them being 'lads doing what lads do' would still be wrong in my eyes but a little more understandable.

However, this was a WORK trip paid for by the company they WORK for. So it isnt lads doing what lads do. I dont know anyone that would be that stupid on a works do to do this in the first place and then be thick enough to film it and send it around to their mates who I can only assume are as dumb as the three involved.

I'm open minded when it comes to sexual practice. To each their own. But there is something about the video and I cant put my finger on what it is, that really disgusts me.

Its not the rimming or anything else thats going on, its something about the way that the 3 players are acting that just makes me feel sick about the situation. It's almost as if they're not mentally sane.

Is this really what young lads are like now? I'm 34 so its been years since my mates and me would go to Ibiza on a lads holiday or go Zanzibar on a Saturday night on the prowl. But we never acted like this and we werent from rich or privileged backgrounds, quite the opposite in fact.

I just dont understand it.

[Finnegan]

It's not just the racist jibe it's the entire thing being just absolutely deplorable. They're literally everything that's wrong with modern football and "lad" culture. The fact people have become so desensitised to this shit that people are defending it is just as woeful.

Twenty years ago, the future best players of the world were scrubbing boots and driving clapped out fiestas.

Now a bunch of useless pricks who'll struggle to get a career in league one are recording sex tapes of themselves abusing a bunch of local girls on a free all inclusive holiday to paradise, acting like they rule the world and are so pleased with themselves they send the evidence to their lad lad lad mates.

Get rid, make an example, they're shit anyway.

[lestajigs]

Do you know what poverty is? Do you know what coping strategies are?

I highly doubt the women wanted to be sex workers.

Girls/women are sent to urban areas to earn money and send back home. Often they go to cities to work in factories. However, sometimes they end up having to engage in transactional sex to be able to survive. Just because men are paying for a service, doesn't mean they have the right to treat them like crap. The women should be degrading these little pathetic men who can't get a regular good time without paying for it.

Sometimes I think some of you haven't even left Beaumont Lees.

Your as much clueless as me, on the back ground of these whores

[lestalee]

Think the last 20 seconds or so of Wire season 1's theme tune would make a good sountrack tbh:

nah theme to the Muppet show..

[Merging Cultures]

You could stretch this argument though and say is it much different to someone watching a bit of porn. Now I'm sure there are some saints on here who never have, but I'd wager many screaming that it's degrading, demeaning, misogynistic, exploitation etc have partaken at some point in it, and all of those things can be said about that as well.

 

It is a bit of a stretch. To me, it really depends on the circumstances. If it is "Hollywood" porn, then often those women have more choices about potential sources of income, they most likely come from a developed country and are probably not that poor. They also probably get paid quite well for their performances. If it is some sort of 'back street' or 'developing country' porn, I'd imagine the production would be of a lower quality, and likely that those involved would have less options available.

 

In this case, the women probably could find alternative sources of income, I'd imagine one of two main avenues, petty trade or working in a factory. Neither would pay well and would require long hours. I think in the sex sector in Thailand there is quite a bit of competition, so I doubt as sex workers they get paid very much either and they probably have quite a short shelf life. Also, once in I imagine it would be difficult to leave (drugs, pimps etc). Also, human trafficking (buzzword) is very active in the region. People pay to leave rural areas, they are promised housing and jobs and they end up forced into sex work.

[Mike Oxlong]

Leicester City Football Club are proud to announce that three of their rising young stars, Tom Hopper, James Pearson and Adam Smith have been appointed as ambassadors to the new Lick It Out campaign.

[yorkie1999]

It is a bit of a stretch. To me, it really depends on the circumstances. If it is "Hollywood" porn, then often those women have more choices about potential sources of income, they most likely come from a developed country and are probably not that poor. They also probably get paid quite well for their performances. If it is some sort of 'back street' or 'developing country' porn, I'd imagine the production would be of a lower quality, and likely that those involved would have less options available.

 

In this case, the women probably could find alternative sources of income, I'd imagine one of two main avenues, petty trade or working in a factory. Neither would pay well and would require long hours. I think in the sex sector in Thailand there is quite a bit of competition, so I doubt as sex workers they get paid very much either and they probably have quite a short shelf life. Also, once in I imagine it would be difficult to leave (drugs, pimps etc). Also, human trafficking (buzzword) is very active in the region. People pay to leave rural areas, they are promised housing and jobs and they end up forced into sex work.

You seem to "imagine" quite a lot of detail there.

[FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife]

No... but I don't think it's pushing the bounds of reality to presume so for the sake of the argument.

 No I agree, and I don't condone what was said. But take the language out and is there really, legally not morally, grounds for dismissal?

If they can prove who used the racist language I expect them to go but the rest i don't see how it can be deemed anything other than very very poor taste and embarrassing. But ultimately consenting adults making a sex tape?

[Babylon]

It is a bit of a stretch. To me, it really depends on the circumstances. If it is "Hollywood" porn, then often those women have more choices about potential sources of income, they most likely come from a developed country and are probably not that poor. They also probably get paid quite well for their performances. If it is some sort of 'back street' or 'developing country' porn, I'd imagine the production would be of a lower quality, and likely that those involved would have less options available.

 

In this case, the women probably could find alternative sources of income, I'd imagine one of two main avenues, petty trade or working in a factory. Neither would pay well and would require long hours. I think in the sex sector in Thailand there is quite a bit of competition, so I doubt as sex workers they get paid very much either and they probably have quite a short shelf life. Also, once in I imagine it would be difficult to leave (drugs, pimps etc). Also, human trafficking (buzzword) is very active in the region. People pay to leave rural areas, they are promised housing and jobs and they end up forced into sex work.

 

Drugs and pimps etc are a problem even in the "hollywood" porn stuff a lot of those women have serious problems, come from abusive homes etc. Can't remember the documentary but there was something that "looked behind the curtain" and it was pretty shocking. Anyway, we digress.

[thybluefox]

You could stretch this argument though and say is it much different to someone watching a bit of porn. Now I'm sure there are some saints on here who never have, but I'd wager many screaming that it's degrading, demeaning, misogynistic, exploitation etc have partaken at some point in it, and all of those things can be said about that as well.

 

The key things for me are what was quoted above in the club statement. "Our players at every level are expected to behave as representatives and ambassadors for our Football Club, both on official Club duty and in their personal lives, so we treat their conduct extremely seriously." They have failed spectacularly in that and really could have no complaints should they lose their jobs.

 

The porn industry is a slightly different case, given the fact of how much porn stars can get get paid, however I see your point. 

 

I think the hypocrisy of people on here though can't detract from the seriousness of what they did. They have to hold themselves to a higher level of scrutiny because of the privileged and very public life they live. 

 

As Bettsj2 and Finnigan have said though, there is something about the videos that makes me feel ill. Its everything about 'lad' culture that I detest. The high-fives, egging each other on, and then filming it to prove what massive LADZ they are, and that they have serious BANTZ. 

 

I hope they're dismissed and made an example of. 

[FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife]

It's not just the racist jibe it's the entire thing being just absolutely deplorable. They're literally everything that's wrong with modern football and "lad" culture. The fact people have become so desensitised to this shit that people are defending it is just as woeful.

Twenty years ago, the future best players of the world were scrubbing boots and driving clapped out fiestas.

Now a bunch of useless pricks who'll struggle to get a career in league one are recording sex tapes of themselves abusing a bunch of local girls on a free all inclusive holiday to paradise, acting like they rule the world and are so pleased with themselves they send the evidence to their lad lad lad mates.

Get rid, make an example, they're shit anyway.

 

Hmm, I think the likes of Moore and Best were getting pissed and fooking anything that moved long before that - not excusing it, just saying

[digitalalba]

I wonder if Nigel will adopt the ostrich approach to this?

ostrich head in sand

Head lick inside orgy arsenal

Is it football?

[Babylon]

 No I agree, and I don't condone what was said. But take the language out and is there really, legally not morally, grounds for dismissal?

If they can prove who used the racist language I expect them to go but the rest i don't see how it can be deemed anything other than very very poor taste and embarrassing. But ultimately consenting adults making a sex tape?

"Our players at every level are expected to behave as representatives and ambassadors for our Football Club, both on official Club duty and in their personal lives, so we treat their conduct extremely seriously." from the club press release. I would say they have failed that considering they were on a club trip, in the owners homeland. They have dragged the name into the gutter sadly.

[LCCFox96]

These 3 clowns are thick scum, they will no doubt be sacked imminently. I couldn't give a toss what impact this has on their careers.

It's this type of media that worries me: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11712/9870978/leicester-city-launch-investigation-into-thailand-video-as-three-players-sent-home

See the very last quote from Piara Power, director of the Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) society. It's a subtle attack on Nigel Pearson and given some of NP's current media antics this season, coupled with the fact it's his docile ignoramus of a son involved, makes him an easy target for this kind of damaging write up. Thankfully, with it being close season it's unlikely he will face the media on this for some time but with credible societies like FARE on our backs we will get some very negative media in the coming weeks. Mickey Adams said that everyone struggled with that after La Manga and with the feel good, team spirit factor being one our biggest assets, I worry for us a little in that respect.

These three may have apologised but I'd wager they are far too stupid to fully understand the consequences of their actions on the rest of the club. James Pearson in particular has made his Dad's job very, very difficult for the immediate future. What a mess this is. The sooner the club bin these guys the better.

[Ollie93]

Why is anyone talking about the porn industry? This is just as irrelevant as to why the women do what they do. The point is these lads have paid these women, they have "abused" them so to speak on an all expenses paid trip to the home land of their bosses. They disrespected them and should go, we have no need for them at the club anyway.

[Babylon]

The porn industry is a slightly different case, given the fact of how much porn stars can get get paid, however I see your point. 

 

I think the hypocrisy of people on here though can't detract from the seriousness of what they did. They have to hold themselves to a higher level of scrutiny because of the privileged and very public life they live. 

 

As Bettsj2 and Finnigan have said though, there is something about the videos that makes me feel ill. Its everything about 'lad' culture that I detest. The high-fives, egging each other on, and then filming it to prove what massive LADZ they are, and that they have serious BANTZ. 

 

I hope they're dismissed and made an example of. 

I agree, not trying to detract from what they have done. I've said they should be sacked because of it, I just think there is a lot of people in glass houses chucking stones on here.

[Merging Cultures]

Your as much clueless as me, on the back ground of these whores

 

Of course I don't know these particular women. But I work in poverty alleviation, I know the typical backgrounds of sex workers, and the triggers that move them in to the sector.

 

As a note, you don't need to use a derogatory term like 'whore' to describe these women, you can call them prostitutes or sex workers. There is no need for FT members to degrade them any further than these boys have done. I am sure you are getting a little kick from calling them 'whores' though.

[Ollie93]

Of course I don't know these particular women. But I work in poverty alleviation, I know the typical backgrounds of sex workers, and the triggers that move them in to the sector.

 

As a note, you don't need to use a derogatory term like 'whore' to describe these women, you can call them prostitutes or sex workers. There is no need for FT members to degrade them any further than these boys have done. I am sure you are getting a little kick from calling them 'whores' though.

 

Because calling someone a prostitute is slightly better than a whore.