Rincewind Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 I wonder how City supporters inThailand feel about it? Ex-pats will have to face Tai people daily and Tai supporters may turn their support away from City who they support mainly because of the owners. It may take some convincing that not all City players afct like that. If the players offer to leave of their own accord it may take away the need to sack them and maybe the publicity. The owners status and influence may calm things down but with Pearson being a patron of Kick it Out it will be embarrassing for him. If they had kept it private then it would just be on their concience. Even if the girs were consenting did they agree to have a video of them performing those acts?
Guybino Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 What were they thinking? absolute idiots, shame on them for what they have done, sack immediately. I feel sorry for Pearson and the owners.
Narborough_fox Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Some of the comments on this thread have been phenomenal. Shame the subject is a terrible one.
Steven Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/578883/leicester-tries-apology-for-bangkok-racism In the Bangkok Post
Gary Eatfood Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Some of the comments on this thread have been phenomenal. Shame the subject is a terrible one. Some have bordered on scandalous, some have been downright inflammatory, some have come straight out of the Mary Whitehouse textbook of feigned moral outrage and some have been a well reasoned and educated response to what is a shameful and embarrassing situation for the club. I have no doubt though that the club, manager and squad will emerge stronger again from all of this.
Rincewind Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 You have to open a box of eggs to find the bad ones so they can be thrown away. That would make a good statement from Pearson.
MadKaw Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Leicester finally get in the news over here in Sydney.! I guess being asked "who are they" when wearing my Leicester jersey will now be replaced with "where's the orgy.?".... FFS.!!!!!
Mike Oxlong Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Are you for real? Consenting adults can do what they like and from what I can tell, prostitutes or not, consent doesn't seem to be an issue in this case. For some people, male and female, rimming or being rimmed is an essential part of foreplay and maybe their only root to sexual ecstasy. I personally don't like it and I don't really have the stomach to watch another bloke's arse getting a tonguing, but it doesn't matter what we find sexually appealing or not. Consenting adults can do these things and your outrage/disgust is completely irrelevant. One of my favourite quotes on this comes from the dissenting words of Lord Mustill speaking in a UK case (R v Brown[1994]) which I really recommend reading (enough degrading behaviour to make you even more outraged): Can everybody please just forget about what their opinion on the act of rimming and farting is. It is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if it's degrading, demeaning, depraved or distasteful - people consent to it and that is all that matters. If it materialises that the women did not consent to these acts then we have a different, more serious problem, but until that happens you have nothing to complain about other than the inappropriate (and possibly racist) remarks used. Read the above case (R v Brown) to be truly disgusted! These 3 will look like angels. R v Brown. Couldn't have scripted that better!
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Well, I go away for a few days with the Mrs, no mobile no tablet or other devices just an emergency landline number left for the babysitter. And wtf happens? The silly bint rings the EMERGENCY number which happens to be that of a quaint little hotel just outside the Cotswold, and proceeds to tell the owner she must speak to me. This was about 10-10:30pm on sat. So I'm sat there in a restaurant ( recommended by the hotel owner ) polishing off my tirimasu, when a pretty young waitress thankfully interrupts the wife's five year plan bollocks to tell me I have a phone call. "Are you sure its for me" I ask her. "Yes sir they gave your name, even your description" The Mrs looks at me inquisitively. "I think its your babysitter" the waitress said. The look on the Mrs face turns to pure horror. I rush to the phone with the Mrs close behind. "Hello, Claire?" Claire is a good friend, a fellow Leicester fan and as I now know, a shite babysitter. "Hi, you having a good time" she asks "Yeah, what's wrong? Are the kids ok? I say. "Yeah they're fine sound asleep" she answers, I give the Mrs a thumbs up so she knows. "Have you heard what's gone on in Thailand" claire asks "Ffs Claire, you about gave us a heart attack, we thought something awful had happened" I said " it has, that's why I thought you would want to know. Guess who has been videoed in an orgy with 3 Thai hookers?" Claire replied Now at this point I wanted to smash the phone down but I relented. I gave it little thought and said " Schlupp " "No" claire said "Mahrez" I said. At this the Mrs gave me a look as if I had just shat on her chest. "No" Claire replied. "Ffs claire just tell me, we're in the middle of our meal I ain't got time for guess who" "Hopper and Pearson, Nigels son" she says smugly as if now she thought I would be grateful for her bloody Thailand tour update. So I simply said, "Claire, you're a twat" And promptly put the phone down and went back to the table, where my Mrs had a glare in her eye that told me I wasn't getting slippy on her tonight! "You told claire to give you updates on the frigging football? The season is over, we were supposed to be getting away from everything for a few days but you can't go a ****ing day without some childish football drama to talk about.........." And it went on and on and, a bit like this post. So, I say sack them all, not for their degradation of women, not for their racist bile, but for completely ruining my weekend. lol
foxfanazer Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 As awful as this sounds Nigel could play a blinder here with the owners if he encourages them to sack the players including his son. It will show them his strong morals and strengthen his position within the club imo. After his own controversial episodes this season it could show him to be the good guy again. Not for a minute suggesting this is a good thing or that NP will see it that way
st albans fox Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 If they, at the age of 22/23, think it's a good idea to video themselves doing this, then they aren't intelligent enough to even be a pro footballer. Get rid. We don't need them anyway. the morals etc etc don't need to be looked into. they are too stupid to be employed by our football club.
Illusion35 Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 FoxesTalk quoted by name in sky news article this morning - glad they chose carefully, could have chosen some more 'interesting' comments to quote!
Raj Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 A lot of new posters having an input in what is obviously a very exciting thread for them!!! Thanks for all your input guys!
howlinmadmurfdoc Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Surely, given the potential effect of what these "men" did, given the relationship of Thai owners and their contacts and sponsors , they should have a greater awareness of the fallout from this than your average overpaid dick that thinks he can get away with anything because he has wealth? Yours is a stupid argument and cannot justify what occurred People have every right to be offended when people that are supposed to represent the football club they love come across as pervy little racists.
Rob1742 Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 I find it astonishing that you are complaining of the acts that have taken place in the video and you think these guys should be sacked. If you are getting on your high horse about this, then I assume you all are really anti gay and take great offence at gay people being together. Because, I am not sure if you know or not, but are you aware of the normal sexual practices of gay men? Surely this is more outrageous than one of them having his bum rimmed in a video? Just have a think about what all that involves. I am pretty sure being gay doesn't stop at walking down the street and holding hands. Either you are all missionary men, or like I said earlier, Take A Break readers who desperately like to see people fall and are after their next fix of helping someone fall down. Get over it, move on, worry what is going on in your own lives and let others do what they want to do as long as it's legal. Thailand is full of whores and you can be sure as you could be that the birds involved got exactly what they wanted that night. It is their job. Normal life over there. They got their money. Come on you guys, if you are disgusted by this, start an anti gay thread as the things they do surely must cause you outrage.
Merging Cultures Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 I can't believe some people have been defending them. While on this trip, they were representatives of the club, at all times. There was no private time. This was a work trip. They have brought the club into disrepute. That is gross misconduct and HR should be able to fire them immediately once the facts are gathered. I'm sure players do this stuff all the time. But they were stupid to video it. I saw someone on here saying casual racism behind closed doors is fine. No it isn't. It is still racism. I'm disappointed that anyone can think this is OK.
Webbo Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 I find it astonishing that you are complaining of the acts that have taken place in the video and you think these guys should be sacked. If you are getting on your high horse about this, then I assume you all are really anti gay and take great offence at gay people being together. Because, I am not sure if you know or not, but are you aware of the normal sexual practices of gay men? Surely this is more outrageous than one of them having his bum rimmed in a video? Just have a think about what all that involves. I am pretty sure being gay doesn't stop at walking down the street and holding hands. Either you are all missionary men, or like I said earlier, Take A Break readers who desperately like to see people fall and are after their next fix of helping someone fall down. Get over it, move on, worry what is going on in your own lives and let others do what they want to do as long as it's legal. Thailand is full of whores and you can be sure as you could be that the birds involved got exactly what they wanted that night. It is their job. Normal life over there. They got their money. Come on you guys, if you are disgusted by this, start an anti gay thread as the things they do surely must cause you outrage. Ridiculous. People are disgusted that A)Our players went with prostitutes. B)They were misogynistic and racist against them. A) Is maybe forgivable, B) is not.
Merging Cultures Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 I find it astonishing that you are complaining of the acts that have taken place in the video and you think these guys should be sacked. If you are getting on your high horse about this, then I assume you all are really anti gay and take great offence at gay people being together. Because, I am not sure if you know or not, but are you aware of the normal sexual practices of gay men? Surely this is more outrageous than one of them having his bum rimmed in a video? Just have a think about what all that involves. I am pretty sure being gay doesn't stop at walking down the street and holding hands. Either you are all missionary men, or like I said earlier, Take A Break readers who desperately like to see people fall and are after their next fix of helping someone fall down. Get over it, move on, worry what is going on in your own lives and let others do what they want to do as long as it's legal. Thailand is full of whores and you can be sure as you could be that the birds involved got exactly what they wanted that night. It is their job. Normal life over there. They got their money. Come on you guys, if you are disgusted by this, start an anti gay thread as the things they do surely must cause you outrage. For me, I don't care what sex acts they engaged in. It's the fact it was recorded and the causal racism. Actually, I didn't like how they treated the women. I am sure some women like to be degraded. And that may have been the case this time. We don't know. But just because a woman is a sex worker doesn't mean she should be treated so poorly. It seemed like a misogynistic power trip from some undereducated relatively wealthy mediocre footballers.
Rob1742 Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 For me, I don't care what sex acts they engaged in. It's the fact it was recorded and the causal racism. Actually, I didn't like how they treated the women. I am sure some women like to be degraded. And that may have been the case this time. We don't know. But just because a woman is a sex worker doesn't mean she should be treated so poorly. It seemed like a misogynistic power trip from some undereducated relatively wealthy mediocre footballers. Treated so poorly, you having a laugh?? Thailand is full of fat old pot bellied business men who travel there to shag whores. It's rife. They got lucky this time with some young lads having a laugh. If you were to think about what they normally have to do with sweaty old blokes, they will have had a good time in comparison. A mate of mine went to live there. Stopped for a soapy every night on his way home from work and probably still does. The women who have to deal with him are who you have to feel for. But you know what, I bet they don't even care, they will just want his wallet
Jimothy Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 I can't believe some people have been defending them. While on this trip, they were representatives of the club, at all times. There was no private time. This was a work trip. They have brought the club into disrepute. That is gross misconduct and HR should be able to fire them immediately once the facts are gathered. I'm sure players do this stuff all the time. But they were stupid to video it. I saw someone on here saying casual racism behind closed doors is fine. No it isn't. It is still racism. I'm disappointed that anyone can think this is OK. On the racism point, even if it was fine behind closed doors, once they've filmed and shared it, it's no longer behind closed doors. So it's a stupid argument to use in the first place.
Merging Cultures Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Treated so poorly, you having a laugh?? Thailand is full of fat old pot bellied business men who travel there to shag whores. It's rife. They got lucky this time with some young lads having a laugh. If you were to think about what they normally have to do with sweaty old blokes, they will have had a good time in comparison. A mate of mine went to live there. Stopped for a soapy every night on his way home from work and probably still does. The women who have to deal with him are who you have to feel for. But you know what, I bet they don't even care, they will just want his wallet Your mate sounds like a really great bloke.Having travelled in the region, and worked with some of the poorest people in the world, I'll tell you paying for sex doesn't give anyone the right to talk to the women like they did. I bet your boss would love to know that they can treat you with so much contempt.
lestajigs Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Except its not. It is three idiots playing for a high profile club who thought it would be clever to behave like chimps in a country they are guests on an all expenses paid trip by our thai owners. Its disrespectful to so many people. The fact they filmed it and sent it out was to humiliate those women and the language they used towards them is gross to say the least. It says an awful lot about society these days when people are trying to justify it. Humiliate those woman?? Don't think the whores had any self respect anyway going up to the room for an orgy,
foxfanazer Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Calling somebody lucky for having the opportunity to lick Tom Hopper's ring piece has the be one of the strangest things I've read on here. Extraordinary!
Merging Cultures Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Humiliate those woman?? Don't think the whores had any self respect anyway going up to the room for an orgy,Do you know what poverty is? Do you know what coping strategies are?I highly doubt the women wanted to be sex workers. Girls/women are sent to urban areas to earn money and send back home. Often they go to cities to work in factories. However, sometimes they end up having to engage in transactional sex to be able to survive. Just because men are paying for a service, doesn't mean they have the right to treat them like crap. The women should be degrading these little pathetic men who can't get a regular good time without paying for it. Sometimes I think some of you haven't even left Beaumont Lees.
Rob1742 Posted 1 June 2015 Posted 1 June 2015 Your mate sounds like a really great bloke. Having travelled in the region, and worked with some of the poorest people in the world, I'll tell you paying for sex doesn't give anyone the right to talk to the women like they did. I bet your boss would love to know that they can treat you with so much contempt. I haven't a boss. I am the boss. As I say, if you think that is bad. Check what gays get upto. You will be outraged beyond belief.
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