Gerard Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 For goodness sake.... only ten managers in the history of the premier league have a better win ratio... That's completely irrelevant stat. He's only ever managed Chelsea, it's hardly fair to use this stat compared to his peers when the vast majority of other managers have managed inferior teams. That's like comparing Floyd Mayweather's 49-0 record to someone who has only fought at national level and has a similar record.
Gerard Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I read an article the other day that suggests otherwise, I'll try and pluck it out for you so you can be a little bit at ease Could you? I'm in bits here (serious)
Babylon Posted 13 July 2015 Author Posted 13 July 2015 I think probably 70% are behind him, let's find out.I'd hope 100% are, it might not be the direction I would have gone, but he must receive backing. What's the point in anyone having the knives out from the start (although some will).
NewburyFox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I think probably 70% are behind him, let's find out. He wouldn't have been my (or many others) first choice, but that doesn't mean we're not behind him. Expressing reservations doesn't mean they won't give 100% support.
Gerard Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'll be 100% behind him when I've calmed down, I just think it's a shit appointment. As fans we're entitled to have an autopsy first though.
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'd hope 100% are, it might not be the direction I would have gone, but he must receive backing. What's the point in anyone having the knives out from the start (although some will). What direction would you have gone? I will get you off that fence
benpicko Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 These seem like decent comments on reddit for all the people saying 'but with the teams he's managed he should have won the league!': He always took over after their decline though. He was Roma manager at a time when Inter were completely dominant (5 consecutive titles, they won the treble that season and he took over from Spalletti with Roma bottom of the table). He took over Juve after they'd just got promoted from Serie B and took them straight into the Champions League and got sacked a year later when they were second (his successor Ciro Ferrara got them to 7th). And Inter have struggled ever since Mourinho left, they've had seven managers since then. I wouldn't say underperformer. Just not overperformer. Taking Cagliari from Serie C to Serie A and Fiorentina from Serie B to winning the Coppa Italia, are definitely achievements. Did well at Valencia, won the Cup and took them to the Champions League for the first time, but his successors would achieve more. Similar story at Chelsea, 2nd in the league (to Arsenal's Invincibles) and a Champions League semi final are big achievements, Mourinho just took Chelsea to the next level. Took newly promoted Juve to third, Roma to second (only to Mourinho's treble winners in the middle of a five year domination of Serie A, and even then only on the last day of the season), and got Monaco promoted and then finished second. He didn't underperform, these teams weren't expected to win the league. He actually did remarkably well in some cases. Which team should have won the league though? Inter were far and away the best team in Italy and were winning the treble that season, Ranieri took over a Roma at the bottom of the league and managed to take Mourinho's Inter to the last game of the season. And Paris-Saint Germain are clearly the best team in France and have been for a few years now.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'll be 100% behind him when I've calmed down, I just think it's a shit appointment. As fans we're entitled to have an autopsy first though. I agree We can all have an opinion can't we? Like you said come the season starting we will all be right behind him and the team as we are all Leicester City fans
GH1 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Well I wish him good luck and will back him 100%. I hope he's still ambitious and hungry
The Doctor Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 The Club's he has managed are "superb". I would argue he has generally underperformed at those clubs though. His CV is far from superb given the tools he has been given to work with. Eh, great win percentage, took Monaco from second division to title challengers in two seasons, laid the groundwork for mourinhos chelsea domination, took Roma as close as they've been in years for the scudetto. He's done well with his sides in the main.
RedSoxUK Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 4 years ago any Leicester fan would have dealt in a second at 14th in the premier league with an Italian manager at the helm, breaking our transfer record on several occasions and our number 9 in the England squad. We should be embracing this appointment and daring to dream of more! Good first post.
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ARM1968 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I would hope for 100% support. Give the guy a chance. We're deluded if we think we could have done much better.
Webbo Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I want answers as a fan as to why: 1. It took so long. It was less than 2 weeks.
MC Prussian Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I don't know what people were expecting... We're not going to compete for a title here (and won't be doing so at all for a long, long time to come ), but Ranieri's previous record suggests he ought to be able to stabilize this club in terms of league position. The only downside is that he hasn't managed in the Premier League in ten years and I think the game has moved on quite a bit since then and his recent stint with Greece was suboptimal. I do also hope the players that Pearson assembled can warm up to him as a person as well as a manager and that we don't have to endure long, arduous winless streaks like last season. I wish Claudio Ranieri the best of luck and now let's all get behind the new manager.
Babylon Posted 13 July 2015 Author Posted 13 July 2015 What direction would you have gone? I will get you off that fence Do a search, I've been fairly open about how I wanted us to go. I'm not going through it all again.
Tielemans63 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Bet Big Peter is gutted he left it until yesterday to apply.
pazzerfox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I just hope it isn't another square pegs in round holes scenario....trying to get the likes of Jamie Vardy, Wes Morgan and Jeff Schlupp to play possession football and try to ping it around like Andre Pirlo.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'd hope 100% are, it might not be the direction I would have gone, but he must receive backing. What's the point in anyone having the knives out from the start (although some will). You're right on both counts, it was clumsily worded but I still don't think he's going to have unanimous support to start with.
steveherbe Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Well, I've got his song sorted anyway. Easy really, to the tune of George Ezras Casio - obviously You managed in Valencia You managed down in Greece And now you've come to Leicester You will get no f****ng peace Claudi - o - o - o - o - o- o - o - o - o Claudi - o - o - o - o - o- o - o - o - o
Weller in Tights Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I would hope for 100% support. Give the guy a chance. We're deluded if we think we could have done much better. Agreed. I am not deluded, I've followed City since 1968. I accept supporting City has ups and downs like a rollercoaster. This may be inspired, it may be a disaster. Let's get behind Ranieri and the team. Let's get the atmosphere at the start of the season like the end of last season. Come on City.
RedSoxUK Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I want answers as a fan as to why: 1. It took so long. I can draw you a graph if you'd like, the longer you wait / attention drops from the original source of problem/error - the better media portrayal and attention towards the next step. Ranieri may have been approved/considered last week and the owners have waited even longer before introducing him to the players for pre-season.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 But isn't he supposed to be a 'world class manager'? After all the clubs he's managed in the past proves it right? Far from it, despite managing some of the biggest clubs in the world with the budgets to match, he has won next to **** all. Hence why he's joined us after the phone stopped ringing after the Greece debacle. But let's see what happens. His task is to beat 14th this season. Surely that can't be that difficult considering the mans reputation? I certainly haven't called him a world class manager and few outside of the club's PR machine would either. What he is is a very experienced, well-regarded and highly successful manager, particularly with reference to the resources at his disposal and the competition he faced. Even a truly world class manager would have had to have pulled off a minor miracle to win a title with any of the clubs he's managed given the resources available to him and the opposition he's faced.
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