Voll Blau Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Interesting piece by Paul Hayward on why supporters are more prone to booing these days... High ticket prices and lavish wages for players are cited by supporters as the main cause for a rash of early booing in this new football season. At least four Premier League teams have been booed off the pitch already, two games into the new campaign. Arsenal were jeered for losing at home to West Ham on the opening day; Spurs were given the bird for surrendering a 2-0 lead over Stoke and West Brom and Sunderland have been derided for the crime of general mediocrity. In the Championship, Queens Park Rangers have already heard the sound of fan displeasure. A thread of logic is developing that connects the high cost of watching games with a supposed right to be entertained – or at least not offended by the fare on display. One fan joked that Sunderland have been booed on to the pitch as well as off it. The growing estrangement of many fans from their teams ought to be a concern to Premier League clubs, where the transfer window turnover of players is higher and higher, with the result that supporters feel little immediate empathy with the latest £5million signing. The conversion of fans into customers or consumers may be weakening the old tribal bonds between terrace and team. Booing used to be a sanction of last resort at many grounds. Now it is an accepted part of the “match day experience”, as a marketing department might put it. A poor return on a £50 ticket is plainly less and less acceptable to the typical fan. Equally galling is a perceived lack of effort by players. With the high level of analysis on programmes such as Sky’s Monday Night Football, everyone can see when players are not bothering to “press the ball” – which means letting the opponent skip around in space without offering a challenge. Sunderland’s players have come off badly in that respect. The full scale of their reluctance, or indolence, has been obvious to television viewers. Fans these days are not short of forums to express their unhappiness. After defeats, blogs and social media seethe with anger towards players and managers. Premier League clubs are working hard to create an appearance of closeness between teams and fans. The player selfie on a plane or team bus is designed to bring the supporter into the sanctum and make him or her feel involved and valued. All the signs are, though, that fans would just rather not be charged so much in a sport that pays immense salaries to the performers. The trend is for cheering and jeering to be equally acceptable responses in football grounds. Good news for democracy, maybe, but not so good for the players. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11809713/Booing-used-to-be-a-football-fans-last-resort-now-its-part-of-the-matchday-experience.html
Benji Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 No need to over-analyse this - booing exists because there are a lot of cvnts in football grounds.
Strokes Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 No need to over-analyse this - booing exists because there are a lot of cvnts in football grounds.I'm a cúnt.
filbertway Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 I can never get my head around a grown man shouting "boo". It's really weird.
Guest Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Each to their own. If someone pays their money they can say/shout what they want (as long as not racist/homophobic)
Fox92 Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 If you pay your money you've got a right to show your feelings. Not by entering the pitch, not by personal insults but booing is fine by me. People spend a lot of money on tickets, travel and everything else that comes with the day at a football match. You've got people travelling the width of the country.
kingcarr21 Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 I can never get my head around a grown man shouting "boo". It's really weird. So what do you say when you are trying to scare someone?
filbertway Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 So what do you say when you are trying to scare someone? RAWR!
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 So what do you say when you are trying to scare someone? "Don't look now but there's a weird looking bloke with a chainsaw behind you"
Steven Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 So what do you say when you are trying to scare someone? Peter Taylor, Dennis Wise, Craig Levein, Steve Howey; the list could go on and on.
Voll Blau Posted 18 August 2015 Author Posted 18 August 2015 I hate booing and it's largely cretins who partake, but I can see the logic in what he says. The higher clubs make ticket prices, the more likely supporters are to feel entitled to be entertained.
Corky Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Ticket prices must've had a huge impact on the opinions of games. If you'd paid a fiver and saw a crap game you could almost write it off and hope for better next week. If you'd paid £50+ then it's a different view. It would be interesting to know how non-league fans react to a bad game compared to the higher divisions given the disparity in cost. To the older members of the forum, when did booing really come into practice at matches? Has it always been there?
Captain... Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 The price doesn't come in to it for me, not because I'm mega rich, but because I have been watching football for long enough to know what I am paying for and it is not just entertainment I am paying for the chance of extreme happiness, if I don't think that is worth it then I won't pay, nobody is forcing me to pay and watch a game. If I had paid £30 to watch West Brom, or Sunderland and it was a shit game of football, I wouldn't boo, I would expect it, if after 2 games of exciting attacking football we started the next game with Ulloa up front on his own and spent all game lumping the ball up to him, I would be pissed off as I had paid to watch the team I saw rip West Ham and Sunderland to shreds. That would be the same if it was £5 or £50.
Dan Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 I do agree with the article. Definitely think the amount that gets paid creates an expectation that would otherwise not be there. The prices need to come down. They are the main thing ruining matchdays.
Grandad. Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Prices won't ever change though will they? I know some clubs do their best to drop prices for people but not enough. Fans will pay the prices as well, look how much of a joke it was for you Leicester fans this weekend at West Ham.. £25 wasn't it last season? Sold out. West Ham put it up to £45 this season and the same thing happens, Leicester sell out. Credit that you have such a good following away from home, but is that going to be your own downfall? Clubs can now charge the top prices because they know you will sell out. Liverpool obviously did that at Hull away last season but unless you do it for 5 away games in a row, then I can't see how doing it on a Tuesday night at the end of the season will do anything to change the prices.
Jordan Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Fans using the Premier League's high salaries as an excuse for booing their own team is focus-group bullshit.
Grandad. Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Aren't Arsenal charging Liverpool £62, Grandad? Yeah, crazy. But if all them fans were to do what they did at Hull and all buy childs tickets and boycott going then that would have more of an effect, big game on TV, surely that would have more people take note. Obviously would never happen though as fans want to see us play against the best sides in the best stadia. Don't think it will ever change to be honest, unfortunately.
Larry_LCFC Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Start Danny Simpson Claudio, then you'll hear some booing.
Guest kristianity77 Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Thing is, with the price you pay these days to get into a ground, there is almost an expectation to be entertained by the team you watch. Back when it was a tenner to get in, win lose or draw the average fan could still walk away having had a good time because it hasn't rinsed a large chunk of his spare cash. These days, for £35 odd quid, it leaves a sour taste when your team for one reason or another just "doesn't turn up".
Kitchandro Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 No need to over-analyse this - booing exists because there are a lot of cvnts in football grounds. It also exists because some of these so called cvnts are on the pitch. Booing is sometimes unfair but you can hardly blame Sunderland fans, for example. They've been an absolute disgrace so far and the effort some players are putting in (Patrick Van Aanholt a major culprit) is unacceptable.
Kitchandro Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Ticket prices must've had a huge impact on the opinions of games. If you'd paid a fiver and saw a crap game you could almost write it off and hope for better next week. If you'd paid £50+ then it's a different view. It would be interesting to know how non-league fans react to a bad game compared to the higher divisions given the disparity in cost. Not sure that's necessarily true. Regardless of ticket prices there will always be a certain amount of expectation on clubs. When we went down to league 1 would it have mattered if we had been paying a fiver? I'd still be equally as gutted and equally as likely to boo. The amount of money will never equal the emotions I feel watching Leicester.
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