filbertway Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 Is Albrighton a viable medium term solution at right-back? Can't imagine he would improve things defensively at all. I'd hope Ritchie is a better defender than Albrighton haha.
KP Fox Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 RDL is the last donkey remaining at the club now Konch and Nugent have left. He has been targetted by every team we have played this season, far more than Schlupp, so odds are ge may nake a few tackles as every attack comes his way. Riyad's cover isn't the best but I've never seen a defender get turned more than this clown. His nickname is braindead Ritchie for a reason. He is cack! I don't know why we have to slag players who took us up. They are not donkeys any one of them. They are our heroes. If it weren't for Nuge's goals we'd probably be playing Brentford this week.
Captain... Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34249318 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34249318 Say whhhaaaaaaaat His inclusion in the team of the week is based on stats and stats don't record poor positional play and losing your marker, but it will include his goal, his 8 successful tackles out of 9, 80% passing success (above the team average of 77%), 4 blocks, 1 interception, 4 out of 6 headed duels won, 1/2 successful take ons. His duels, will be the high number of tackles he won, by the stats he had an effective game (boosted by his strong end to the game), according to some fans he was dog shit (clouded by preconceptions), the truth is somewhere in between.
Woof Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I have to say I thought he had a decent game against Villa and obviously CR rates him the best choice in that position. I doubt he would keep getting picked if his positional sense was so bad. I'm guessing he is in the position CR wants him in most of the time.
biggs Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 I played in his position at a decent level some years ago so I often study him during game times from my position in the East stand. His positional sense really is appalling. Many times he drifts aimlessly inside and is virtually standing next to Huth or Wes Morgan in the middle of the pitch when the opposition are attacking us. He leaves the winger for them unmarked so the opposition always have an outball when they attack. It is always interesting to note the amount of attacks that start down his side. Opponents see him as our weak link in defence and always target his side when attacking. Yes he is ok going forward but lets get one thing clear he is a fullback and he isn't very good. Defensively I think he is poor. He plays well off off the attacking player and when one on one, he gets turned too easily. Going forward, I think he's a good asset but relying on him to defend, I cringe every time the opposition attacks down his side.
BlueTillIDie Posted 15 September 2015 Posted 15 September 2015 He is the weak link of the defensive unit and i definately think Claudio will be looking for a right back January. However he is quick as lightning and not too shabby going forward, he will do for now and great for the squad but we can certainly look to improve to makes us more solid.
ozleicester Posted 16 September 2015 Author Posted 16 September 2015 RITCHIE 3 of them in there....How good is that... we ARE the team of the week and to those who say he isnt being scapegoated... De laet is in the premier league team of the week and some here are still saying he's sh*t?
The_77 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 It's incredibly disappointing to see all of the negative and ridiculous comments re: RDL. The stats have been proving that he's been playing well enough each week, and he certainly had his best game of the season yesterday. And that 2nd Villa goal?? Inler was clearly gassed and could not get back in time, and Mahrez was in nowhere-land when he backtracked, leaving Gil open at the top of the box. You guys are going to keep moaning about RDL, and I suppose that's a small price to pay for Ranieri making good personnel decisions and 11 points out of 15 to start the season.
MrSpaM Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Just crazy seeing three of our players in the premiership team of the week
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 I think this just proves yet again that once fans decide they don't like someone, no amount of evidence will change their mind. People were initially moaning that he gets beat too easily, doesn't win his tackles and is sloppy in possession. Now all the stats show clearly that he is doing very well in these areas, the critics move on to more intangible and largely unfalsifiable things like positioning (like they have any idea about this anyway). As others have pointed out, in the modern PL teams like to load one side and outnumber fullbacks, draw centre backs out of position and stretch the back line to create space. You can't win every tackle or stop every attack especially when you've got 2v1 or 3v2. I think RDL has done really well this season so far and the criticism is a bit unfair.
stox259 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 There is an argument that any team is as good as the weakest link so naturally, fans (myself included) will often site the weakest link as a reason for poor moments in a game or often deflect blame on that player if things don't go well. I remember Steve Guppy getting some proper stick for not tackling and often if Leicester lost back then a lot of people would say it was because Guppy 'couldn't defend'. However, looking back now its widely regarded that Guppy was a good player. De Leat is the current weakest link in a lot of peoples opinion so therefore gets a bit of stick. I noticed on Sunday he missed an easy tackle in the middle of the park and the crowd gave an audible groan yet when Mahrez gave the ball away which let the second Villa goal that was forgiven pretty quickly. Its the way fans are. We laud the best players in the team even if things go wrong and we get on the back of the worst players in the team even when things go right for them. Once someone says 'that player is not good enough for the team' it takes a hell of a lot to change a mind.
Bamba's Babes Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 He improved in the second half because Villa didn't attack us. He didn't have to defend very much. He will be targeted every time he plays a game, he's not very good.
Jordan Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 He improved in the second half because Villa didn't attack us. He didn't have to defend very much. He will be targeted every time he plays a game, he's not very good. When de Laet was targeted 1-on-1, he came out on top in 8 of the 9 chances.De Laet gets "targeted" because Leicester use him (and Schlupp) as wing backs in a 4-4-2, and because Leicester have a marked preference for attacking down the right side. Ranieri doubled-down on the right side vs Villa and won, once again.
Dan Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Nothing against De Laet, but he just isn't quite good enough for the Premier League for me.
Wymsey Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Surprised that Pearson didn't teach him well to defend properly.
Fox92 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Nothing against De Laet, but he just isn't quite good enough for the Premier League for me. Agreed. Always thought the same. Full backs are the weaklinks in our defence.
Ric Flair Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Surprised that Pearson didn't teach him well to defend properly. Pearson gave up being a defensively sound manager a long time ago. During his second stint as manager for us it never seemed a priority for him to focus too much on defending well. When he did do that with negative formations it nearly cost us as we were bottom of the league playing 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 diamond formation. We committed the same mistakes at set pieces time and time again, we got done by doubling up on our very attack minded full backs in Schlupp and De Laet but we focused on our strengths which were rapid counter attacks and that's why we're one of the most exciting teams in the league.
Captain... Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Agreed. Always thought the same. Full backs are the weaklinks in our defence. Because of the way we play, not because they are shit players. We need them to get forwards to support our attack to play the way we do, that comes with risk. I'm sure we could tell them to stay back and just play a safe game, think the spurs game, they stayed back because we were worried about the threat of spurs, we ended up conceding a lot of possession but very few clear cut chances, but we also didn't create much either. If we want to continue to play an aggressive fast counter attacking game, it means we need to get forwards quickly and in numbers, De Laet and Schlupp allow that to happen and do a phenomenal job getting up and down the flank, but it will mean that there is space to attack us behind the full backs and other managers will know that and target those spaces.
Stan Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 I think this just proves yet again that once fans decide they don't like someone, no amount of evidence will change their mind. People were initially moaning that he gets beat too easily, doesn't win his tackles and is sloppy in possession. Now all the stats show clearly that he is doing very well in these areas, the critics move on to more intangible and largely unfalsifiable things like positioning (like they have any idea about this anyway). As others have pointed out, in the modern PL teams like to load one side and outnumber fullbacks, draw centre backs out of position and stretch the back line to create space. You can't win every tackle or stop every attack especially when you've got 2v1 or 3v2. I think RDL has done really well this season so far and the criticism is a bit unfair. This should have been the last post of this thread.
MPH Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 De Laet in the same team as Mahrez is as much a disparity as... - Starting me up top for a Championship team (I'm an eleventh tier Keeper.) - Putting Freddy Mercury in One Direction - Rachel being my bird - Forest in the Prem - Liam anywhere other than Transfer Talk or Twitter - Leicester City out of the top 4 - Tops Helicopter going undetected tl;dr - I don't think he's very good.
David Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Technically and positionally (is that a real word?) very poor Aggressive, Fast and a threat going forward Depends what you are looking for? Personally, I would have liked us to strengthen that area, especially when we have a Left back who likes to bomb forward also.
Fox92 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Because of the way we play, not because they are shit players. We need them to get forwards to support our attack to play the way we do, that comes with risk. I'm sure we could tell them to stay back and just play a safe game, think the spurs game, they stayed back because we were worried about the threat of spurs, we ended up conceding a lot of possession but very few clear cut chances, but we also didn't create much either. If we want to continue to play an aggressive fast counter attacking game, it means we need to get forwards quickly and in numbers, De Laet and Schlupp allow that to happen and do a phenomenal job getting up and down the flank, but it will mean that there is space to attack us behind the full backs and other managers will know that and target those spaces. Sorry but Schlupp's defensive positioning is woeful.
biggs Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 I think this just proves yet again that once fans decide they don't like someone, no amount of evidence will change their mind. People were initially moaning that he gets beat too easily, doesn't win his tackles and is sloppy in possession. Now all the stats show clearly that he is doing very well in these areas, the critics move on to more intangible and largely unfalsifiable things like positioning (like they have any idea about this anyway). As others have pointed out, in the modern PL teams like to load one side and outnumber fullbacks, draw centre backs out of position and stretch the back line to create space. You can't win every tackle or stop every attack especially when you've got 2v1 or 3v2. I think RDL has done really well this season so far and the criticism is a bit unfair. If you're relying on stats to tell me he's a good defender then so be it because for the most part when challenged down the wing, he was not even close to the winger who easily got the cross in. I guess that doesn't count as a challenge in the stats??? 1 v 1 defending he so often gets turned around and I'm suggesting for the most part the tackles he made were up field not so much when defending. He sure made some great plays attacking but defending IMO he is a liability.
Silverdaz Posted 17 September 2015 Posted 17 September 2015 The thing is with De Laet if he plays right back then if we go into three at the back the manager doesnt have to change any personnel because ritchie is more than comfortable playuing the right side centre back in a back three
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