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Nalis

Rugby World Cup 2015

By Nalis, in General Football and Sport

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RobHawk

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As for England, they need to regroup and beat the Aussies. Pre tournament, all I heard from Enlgand fans was about them winning the tournament! Well to do that you need to beat the best sides so it's not all over yet!

Guest Bilo

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As for England, they need to regroup and beat the Aussies. Pre tournament, all I heard from Enlgand fans was about them winning the tournament! Well to do that you need to beat the best sides so it's not all over yet!

 

No chance of England beating the Aussies. 

RobHawk

RobHawk

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No chance of England beating the Aussies.

Course they can! It won't be easy but on home soil, they need to step up now!

Don't get why ben youngs was taken off. Thought he was playing well

That was the turning point for me! Bad move by lancy!
BlueSi13

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As for England, they need to regroup and beat the Aussies. Pre tournament, all I heard from Enlgand fans was about them winning the tournament! Well to do that you need to beat the best sides so it's not all over yet!

 

We had good reason to think we were in an incredibly strong position considering recent performances and the fact we are at home.  We have completely fallen of a cliff the past couple of months though.  Also no chance of us beating Australia who are favourites for the tournament and will be desperate to beat us at Twickenham as always.  England won't recover emotionally from this debacle.  

 

Also makes our decision to allow Wales to play most of their games at the Millennium Stadium even more bonkers.

Finnegan

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Course they can! It won't be easy but on home soil, they need to step up now!

That was the turning point for me! Bad move by lancy!

 

If Australia turn up and perform and England play like they did against Fiji and Wales then I really can't see England winning.

 

I think Australia will win the group unless they bottle it. 

 

Hoops, Pocock, Izzy, Foley, Skelts, it's a very, very good team. Actual world class players. 

Finnegan

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We had good reason to think we were in an incredibly strong position considering recent performances and the fact we are at home.  We have completely fallen of a cliff the past couple of months though.  Also no chance of us beating Australia who are favourites for the tournament and will be desperate to beat us at Twickenham as always.  England won't recover emotionally from this debacle.  

 

Also makes our decision to allow Wales to play most of their games at the Millennium Stadium even more bonkers.

 

1. You weren't in an incredibly strong position, performances hadn't actually been that great (that's not just my verdict - Guscott, Barnes, Moore, Woodward and plenty of other English pundits have had concerns.)

 

2. Australia were/are nobody's pre-tournament favourites. Even Campo reckoned it was four years too early for Australia and he'd be happy to just see them develop and he's probably the most biased pundit from any nation, anywhere in the world!!

 

3. Wales are playing England and Australia at Twickenham.

 

 

Basically, what you smoking? I'm assuming you only follow rugby when England play a big game? :dunno:

RobHawk

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If Australia turn up and perform and England play like they did against Fiji and Wales then I really can't see England winning.

 

I think Australia will win the group unless they bottle it. 

 

Hoops, Pocock, Izzy, Foley, Skelts, it's a very, very good team. Actual world class players.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't put money on England beating the Aussies. But to say it's game over is ludicrous, especially when your at home and you have nothing to lose! Stranger things have happened!

RobHawk

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Nice to see bigger getting the plaudits!

He's been a top player for the last few years but hasn't always been in favour, especially when gats refused to drop preistland!

Finnegan

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Oh of course it's not game over. England will get massive bonus points / points difference off Uruguay, that's a game that's just made for Brown and May. Even a losing bonus point against Australia (or two) makes the group still hugely open.

 

It's also perfectly possible that Australia might just simply choke. If there's questions anywhere about them it's character.

Finnegan

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Nice to see bigger getting the plaudits!

He's been a top player for the last few years but hasn't always been in favour, especially when gats refused to drop preistland!

 

Even as a Scarlets fan I was getting furious with the refusal to drop Priestland. 

 

Biggar has grown in to a brilliant all round player. I think he gets quite unfairly overlooked when people discuss the best tens in the Northern hemisphere, I don't think Sexton is noticeably better with ball in hand and I think Biggar is probably the best fly in the world defensively. 

BlueSi13

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1. You weren't in an incredibly strong position, performances hadn't actually been that great (that's not just my verdict - Guscott, Barnes, Moore, Woodward and plenty of other English pundits have had concerns.)

 

2. Australia were/are nobody's pre-tournament favourites. 

 

3. Wales are playing England and Australia at Twickenham.

 

 

Basically, what you smoking? I'm assuming you only follow rugby when England play a big game? :dunno:

Not the biggest rugby fan no but we have come just short in the past couple of Six Nations and were building consistently up to this tournament.  However we have regressed significantly in the warm-ups and in our two matches so far this tournament.  This is a match we should have won tonight, no excuses.  However a home tournament brings uniques pressures and we haven't handled them well at all.  That's sport unfortunately and will see what changes will be made upon if/when Lancaster is removed after the tournament. 

 

Australia are surely favourites after their Rugby Championship victory but either way, both them and New Zealand look a class above.

BlueSi13

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Can't see Aussies choking, they rarely do... unlike us, well done Wales.

 

Just hoping something weird happens and we make it through. :o)

 

Absolutely no chance, they won't squander the chance to dump us out of our own world cup early.  

Finnegan

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The Rugby Championship was changed from the usual format this year because of the world cup. It was basically a friendly tournament.

 

I watched the 'decider' between NZ and Aus and it watched like a practice match. Basically, neither side wanted to get injured (and the ABs beat them  41 - 13 the week later.)

 

Make no mistake about it, the real form team in the tournament are the All Blacks and it's not just been in international rugby, it's been their teams in Super Rugby as well. The best three teams were from New Zealand, by a distance. The current South African form could have been predicted easily by the dire form of their domestic sides in Super Rugby.

 

I'm a Super Rugby addict, I watched most of the Southern Hemisphere's club rugby this year and most of the Rugby Championship. Trust me when I say the ABs should walk this world cup, nobody is even close.

 

Of course tournament sport never really works like that but Australia aren't really miles ahead of England and Wales. They're better, yes, but it's not unfathomable that they won't get out of the group either. I think they will and I think we just played the play-off to come second but you never know.

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What a thoroughly depressing day of sport's results.

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Still Fiji beating the Welsh - quite possible and England beating the Aussies will make this week all the better.

RobHawk

RobHawk

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Jesus, don't. Terrifyingly possible.

That's 100% the way Wales roll. Beat the English then lose to Fiji! Still a lot to do!

Guest MattP

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Great game, Wales brilliant to win from that we'llddone Finners you bastard.

I might stay in tomorrow.

Rugby Union is a great game isn't it, the older I getthe more I enjoy it.

surrifox

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Not the biggest rugby fan no but we have come just short in the past couple of Six Nations and were building consistently up to this tournament. However we have regressed significantly in the warm-ups and in our two matches so far this tournament. This is a match we should have won tonight, no excuses. However a home tournament brings uniques pressures and we haven't handled them well at all. That's sport unfortunately and will see what changes will be made upon if/when Lancaster is removed after the tournament.

Australia are surely favourites after their Rugby Championship victory but either way, both them and New Zealand look a class above.

Don't dismiss France as a serious contender

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