Bluetintedspecs Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Wasn't he a Death Eater in the Harry Potter books? I thought he was in Rocky 1V,the drug problem concerns me though!
MC Prussian Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Not really sure how anyone can argue that Kramaric hasn't flopped to be fair. We signed him for a near club record fee being one of the most highly rated up and coming players in Europe and he hasn't established himself in our team. How is he not a flop? It reminds me of the Inler debate. You sign promising or talented players for relatively large amounts of money (well, at least compared to our previous signing fees when we were in the Championship - but may I remind you the market's changed and prices have gone up everywhere), then the manager decides against deploying them because he's discovered a winning formula that relies on a squad Kramaric can't or doesn't need to get into. Hardly anybody's fault we're doing so well. Kramaric does have talent, or else he wouldn't have been in demand by other big PL clubs. To call Kramaric a "flop" sounds rather far-fetched to me and doesn't do the situation any justice.
Guest Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 It reminds me of the Inler debate. You sign promising or talented players for relatively large amounts of money (well, at least compared to our previous signing fees when we were in the Championship - but may I remind you the market's changed and prices have gone up everywhere), then the manager decides against deploying them because he's discovered a winning formula that relies on a squad Kramaric can't or doesn't need to get into. Hardly anybody's fault we're doing so well. Kramaric does have talent, or else he wouldn't have been in demand by other big PL clubs. To call Kramaric a "flop" sounds rather far-fetched to me and doesn't do the situation any justice. If any other team bought a club record signing who couldn't get in the team and left after a year, you'd call them a flop. There may be all manner of reasons for his failure to break through here but he had most certainly flopped. I tend to think that if his name was Peter Smith people on here would be far less forgiving about his failures.
Donut Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Joke of the century. Well, almost. Neither has he flopped, nor has he proven himself not to be good enough. Ranieri has so far simply relied on another formation and on other starting strikers. Whether Kramaric is or isn't good enough is open for debate, there is no definite answer. Hes not been good enough, end of.
VLC86 Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 It reminds me of the Inler debate. You sign promising or talented players for relatively large amounts of money (well, at least compared to our previous signing fees when we were in the Championship - but may I remind you the market's changed and prices have gone up everywhere), then the manager decides against deploying them because he's discovered a winning formula that relies on a squad Kramaric can't or doesn't need to get into. Hardly anybody's fault we're doing so well. Kramaric does have talent, or else he wouldn't have been in demand by other big PL clubs. To call Kramaric a "flop" sounds rather far-fetched to me and doesn't do the situation any justice. So you sign for a club and can't get a game then you aren't a flop?
MC Prussian Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 So you sign for a club and can't get a game then you aren't a flop? A flop to me is a highly-touted player who arrives at a club, then fails to live up to that promise because of the lack of skill/talent promised. Lack of pitch time doesn't automatically make you a flop. There's usually a good reason behind it. My guess is it's because he does not fit in our style of play (yet). I think we should give the guy a break and see how he's developed at the end of this season - be it with us or on loan someplace else.
1972 Fox Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 A flop to me is a highly-touted player who arrives at a club, then fails to live up to that promise because of the lack of skill/talent promised. Lack of pitch time doesn't automatically make you a flop. There's usually a good reason behind it. My guess is it's because he does not fit in our style of play (yet). I think we should give the guy a break and see how he's developed at the end of this season - be it with us or on loan someplace else. This.
WhoGivesAFuchs Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Why can't Kiev beat Man City? Why not have loyalty to his team mates for six months? His situation is no different to Vardy or Mahrez. Given how Kramaric has flopped here, I suspect a few prospects might have second thoughts about joining us Why would a prospect not want to join us? They can take a look at players like Mahrez, Vardy, Kante, Albrighton, Drinkwater, all of these came to our club as prospects and look how they turned out, so yeah Kramaric is god awful but thats due to his sheer lack of talent. If i was a prospect id massively look into our squads overall development.
VLC86 Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 A flop to me is a highly-touted player who arrives at a club, then fails to live up to that promise because of the lack of skill/talent promised. Lack of pitch time doesn't automatically make you a flop. There's usually a good reason behind it. My guess is it's because he does not fit in our style of play (yet). I think we should give the guy a break and see how he's developed at the end of this season - be it with us or on loan someplace else. As a signing Kramaric has been a flop end of. Your definition means that numerous players who fit this bracket who were blatant flop signings are not considered to be. Diego Forlan to United? Highly rated, was absolute turd for United and then went on to have a fantastic career. Was he a flop when signed for United? Hard to argue otherwise. Kevin De Bruyne to Chelsea. Same as, now one of the best players in the world but was his signing to Chelsea a flop? Of course it was.
inckley fox Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 As a signing Kramaric has been a flop end of. Your definition means that numerous players who fit this bracket who were blatant flop signings are not considered to be. Diego Forlan to United? Highly rated, was absolute turd for United and then went on to have a fantastic career. Was he a flop when signed for United? Hard to argue otherwise. Kevin De Bruyne to Chelsea. Same as, now one of the best players in the world but was his signing to Chelsea a flop? Of course it was. Equally, you could say that after 11-12 months at the club a lot of people would have said Vardy was a flop and, in years gone by, the same might have applied to others who went on to have a significant impact, like Wright, Russell, Willis, Kaamark, Ullathorne, Taggart, Fryatt, Simpson and so on. On the other hand, some players have an impressive enough first year at the club before later tailing off, in some cases disastrously. Darren Eadie, Matt Jones, Dean Sturridge and Stephen Hughes all spring to mind. As it stands, the chances are that Kramaric won't come to hold down a place in the side, or make a measurable impact on this season or next season. The same could be said of Inler and Benalouane. But if he did manage to turn things around and prove, almost out of nowhere, to be a quality player then he certainly wouldn't be the first. Until he makes that cut price return to Eastern Europe, or Cup Final cameo in which he costs us the game, I'll delay judgement.
CosbehFox Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Why would a prospect not want to join us? They can take a look at players like Mahrez, Vardy, Kante, Albrighton, Drinkwater, all of these came to our club as prospects and look how they turned out, so yeah Kramaric is god awful but thats due to his sheer lack of talent. If i was a prospect id massively look into our squads overall development. I explained further on, it's a risk for a young player in January who has an Euro 2016 spot to consider.
VLC86 Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Equally, you could say that after 11-12 months at the club a lot of people would have said Vardy was a flop and, in years gone by, the same might have applied to others who went on to have a significant impact, like Wright, Russell, Willis, Kaamark, Ullathorne, Taggart, Fryatt, Simpson and so on. On the other hand, some players have an impressive enough first year at the club before later tailing off, in some cases disastrously. Darren Eadie, Matt Jones, Dean Sturridge and Stephen Hughes all spring to mind. As it stands, the chances are that Kramaric won't come to hold down a place in the side, or make a measurable impact on this season or next season. The same could be said of Inler and Benalouane. But if he did manage to turn things around and prove, almost out of nowhere, to be a quality player then he certainly wouldn't be the first. Until he makes that cut price return to Eastern Europe, or Cup Final cameo in which he costs us the game, I'll delay judgement. All quite irrelevant, the signing of Kramaric hasn't been a success and it looks like he's off so he isn't going to do a Vardy. Anyway, this isn't the Kram thread and I'm bored of trying to tell one or two people who claim black is white otherwise.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 http://m.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-boss-Claudio-Ranieri-keeping/story-28450022-detail/story.html Seems to all be speculation if CR has denied it.
Buzzell Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 http://m.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-boss-Claudio-Ranieri-keeping/story-28450022-detail/story.html Seems to all be speculation if CR has denied it. If he's keeping his 'cards close to his chest' then he won't announce who he's after. This transfer could still be a possibility.
MC Prussian Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 All quite irrelevant, the signing of Kramaric hasn't been a success and it looks like he's off so he isn't going to do a Vardy. Anyway, this isn't the Kram thread and I'm bored of trying to tell one or two people who claim black is white otherwise. True, it's getting astray. However, Kramaric cannot be labeled a flop (yet), because we simply haven't seen enough of him this season to fully judge his abilities or progress at LCFC. He's had a run out under Pearson in the space of four months and Ranieri is now sticking to his main guns, e.g. Vardy up front. The fate of Kramaric is a lesser version of how Ulloa and Okazaki have fared so far, seeing their pitch time reduced to bit parts. Kramaric may have been underwhelming so far (especially given his odd decision-making in the League Cup games), but a flop? Behave. It's the price tag that clouds people's minds ("near record-signing"), when in fact fees like that are the norm nowadays. We're not in the Championship anymore. EDIT: Maybe one of the mods wants to move the Kramaric-related posts in this thread in the corresponding thread in the LCFC section.
Strokes Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 As a signing Kramaric has been a flop end of. Your definition means that numerous players who fit this bracket who were blatant flop signings are not considered to be. Diego Forlan to United? Highly rated, was absolute turd for United and then went on to have a fantastic career. Was he a flop when signed for United? Hard to argue otherwise. Kevin De Bruyne to Chelsea. Same as, now one of the best players in the world but was his signing to Chelsea a flop? Of course it was. Yes he has been a flop so far...........he is still here though, so he isn't a flop signing yet.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 would love this guy! Any news on anything that you can inform us on?
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 Any news on anything that you can inform us on? I think you're confusing ramboacdc with ramadaone, man.
Vardinio'sCat Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Any volunteers to tell huth we are gonna sign him? Thought not...
Ozwin Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 This guy is some player. Signing him shows some SERIOUS intent.
mozartfox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Aleks Dragovic steht auf dem Wunschzettel von Leicester City. Keine Transferzeit vergeht ohne neue Gerüchte über Aleksander Dragovic. Der Österreicher gilt als eine der heißesten Aktien auf dem internationalen Fußballmarkt und wurde bereits mit zahlreichen Top-Clubs in Verbindungen gebracht. Wechsel auf die Insel?Dragovic‘ aktueller Arbeitgeber Dynamo Kiew würde den 24-Jährigen im Jänner für 22 Millionen Euro ziehen lassen. Wie britische Medien berichten, soll das Sensationsteam Leicester City bereits Interesse bekundet haben. Die Engländer wollen den Innenverteidiger dabei schon im Winter verpflichten und somit den Kader im Kampf um einen Champions-Leaugue-Platz weiter verstärken. Damit könnte Dragovic nicht nur zum Sensationsteam der englischen Premier League wechseln, sondern auch Teamkollege von Christian Fuchs werden. Dragovic hat bei Kiew noch einen Vertrag bis 2018, der Österreicher gilt aber als einer der begehrtesten Verteidiger in ganz Europa. Dragovic selbst bleibt cool – er will frühestens im Sommer nach der EURO wechseln! Nothing concrete here. Just says we would like to sign him to strengthen our defence to mount a challenge for a Champions League spot. DK will apparently let him leave for 22M Euros. Under contract until 2018. Final sentence says he is staying cool about things and the earliest he wants to move is after the Euros. I would not hold your breath on this one.
bovril Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Dragovic-vic-vic, he's a wizard on the pitch, Dragovic-vic-vic, look at us we're ****ing rich.
sdb Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Signing him up now for next season would be great. A good EUROS would pump up the price. We don't NEED a CB at the mo. In fact it'd probably be best for all parties.
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