DennisNedry Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I don't get this need to "come out" or have parades as if it's something unusual. I don't think it is. There are so many shades of sexual grey where people are concerned. And, apart from certain religious zealots, I don't think anyone gives a toss. Just get on with being yourselves (legally) and let others be themselves. How would I react to a homosexual footballer? I've played lots of football and honestly never noticed one, perhaps because I can't remember giving the subject of homosexuality a thought while playing or being involved in football. It wasn't much talked about when I was a kid. How would I be expected to react? Do the rules of football change? Should I be careful in the bath? It's never been a concern and I can't imagine how it would matter in the slightest. The truth lies in the fourth sentence, especially the last bit. I've twice had the seriously scary problem of homosexuals trying to abduct me when I was 14/15 and also had uncomfortable approaches while at a gymnastics club at the Leicester YMCA as a teenager and at an amusements arcade in Leicester City centre around the same time, when staff came to my rescue in a fairly dramatic way. Those experiences - although successfully thwarted and thankfully harmless in the event - left a lot of long-lasting anger and distrust. Most of that's gone now I'm pleased to say. And, thankfully, at my age, it's unlikely to be resurrected! . Gays must have become a lot less rapey now than when you were a lad Thrac
Countryfox Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I don't give a fook ..whats it got to do with anybody where a footballer shoves his totdger as long as its legal...? mind you, the way some celebrate after a goal..one thing could lead to another... I agree with you JTF ..... and if the restart is delayed whilst two of them start chatting and swapping phone numbers, I for one would have to start booing !
Wymsey Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I watched a Jeremy Kyle episode which consisted of a transgender person (man to woman) saying that he lost 5 jobs due to his choice of how he wanted to be/feel. So of course this type of 'sex change' is a taboo regarding being accepted in a work environment.
Guest MattP Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 There was a programme with Fashanau a while back about his brother. I am sure there are a few. One of the players at the poker night I go to told the organiser who asked me if I had a problem. I said no of course but he came out to us because he did not want confusion or embarrassment to arise during the games. It may seem wrong to say it but I was not overly surprised. His mannerism veered that way. Hard to explain. I have friends who hug me. Does it make them gay? I'm not but my sister asked if I was a few years back. Partly because I am single and not been with many women or had a regular GF. I put that down to my shy manner and lack of confidence when younger in approaching girls or in conversation with them and others. Yet I can stand up at a open mic evening and read poetry to an audience. It is one situation I feel appreciated. I know one gay from my DNO friends. He told the rest of us during one of our radio sessions. We just said so what. It is awkward for him as he is religious but says it should not matter to HIS god as love is love regardless. I think you might be giving off some serious gaydar.
DillonLive Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 As long as he plays well, I don't care about who he wants. That is his personal life. Let's leave it to him.
Captain... Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I think the press and people's views would all come to a head if a professional footballer was caught cheating on his wife with a fella. Would he become a figure of hate and target for abuse, like Terry and Giggs were, or would he get some sympathy and support for the nature of his indiscretion? Would that matter on the terraces? It's one thing coming out, it's another being found out. The other aspect is transgender, would a woman that was born a man be allowed to compete with women? Would she be allowed to compete with men?
Strokes Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Maybe gay folk are not very good at football, we should arrange a charity match to find out.
Leicesterpool Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I think in future though a lot more players will come out, however even if they do come out they shouldn't be treated any differently to a player who is straight. However I don't think a player should brag about being gay, I mean like do we have players bragging their straight?
Fox92 Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I think in future though a lot more players will come out, however even if they do come out they shouldn't be treated any differently to a player who is straight. However I don't think a player should brag about being gay, I mean like we do have players bragging their straight. Do we!?
Leicesterpool Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Do we!? For give me I got the words the wrong way round. I've corrected.
MPH Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I Just want to know if a footballer who plays for us is any good. And all i care about is if the fan next to me is a die hard Leicester fan and if they'd cheer the lads on.
Captain... Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I Just want to know if a footballer who plays for us is any good. And all i care about is if the fan next to me is a die hard Leicester fan and if they'd cheer the lads on. Which is all well and good when they are a good player, but what if he isn't a very good player, what if he is an absolute arsehole, imagine if D*nnis W*se, had been openly gay. Would a crowd be able to resist resorting to homophobic insults to express their disgust? Or a wind up merchant like Savage, if he was up to his usual tricks, would there be a few comments thrown his away about his sexuality, maybe even a chant or 2, it might even be a funny chant? Or even a fairly non descript player, like Sessegnon on Tuesday, had a bit of a flair up (arguably justified) and got a load of abuse for the rest of the half, if he was gay would it have crossed that line?
Carl the Llama Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Which is all well and good when they are a good player, but what if he isn't a very good player, what if he is an absolute arsehole, imagine if D*nnis W*se, had been openly gay. Would a crowd be able to resist resorting to homophobic insults to express their disgust? Or a wind up merchant like Savage, if he was up to his usual tricks, would there be a few comments thrown his away about his sexuality, maybe even a chant or 2, it might even be a funny chant? Or even a fairly non descript player, like Sessegnon on Tuesday, had a bit of a flair up (arguably justified) and got a load of abuse for the rest of the half, if he was gay would it have crossed that line? Pretty much this. Brighton fans can barely go a match without getting a load of homophobic slurs chanted at them so it's easy to see why somebody who is actually gay might not want to make a stadium of football fans aware of that fact.
Haydos Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 If there are top level players out there at the moment who are gay and don't want to come out due to fear of being stigmatised they are thinking about it all wrong. The first few to be open about their homosexuality will make an absolute fortune from marketing/merchandising opportunities that will inevitably arise, especially if they happen to be good looking. Not only that but they would become over night gay icons and secure a legacy for themselves that would long outlive their playing days. Obviously this kind of thing isn't for everyone but sooner or later someone will come to view their coming out potential in this way. This is assuming there are actually a load of gay players out there. There might not be many/any after all. What? They should forget all the fears and judgements of hundreds of millions of people because there's a bit of money to be made? It's shit like this that contributes to the issue.
MPH Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Which is all well and good when they are a good player, but what if he isn't a very good player, what if he is an absolute arsehole, imagine if D*nnis W*se, had been openly gay. Would a crowd be able to resist resorting to homophobic insults to express their disgust? Or a wind up merchant like Savage, if he was up to his usual tricks, would there be a few comments thrown his away about his sexuality, maybe even a chant or 2, it might even be a funny chant? Or even a fairly non descript player, like Sessegnon on Tuesday, had a bit of a flair up (arguably justified) and got a load of abuse for the rest of the half, if he was gay would it have crossed that line? History has proven, especially with Denise Wise. that arseoles will always be game for cristicism. and so will crap players ( aka Junior Lewis)
Unabomber Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 I mean like do we have players bragging their straight? bragging their straight what?
GaelicFox Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Has anyone ever heard homophobic chanting at a match or comments ? I never ever have , and I'm 29 years going to football
GaelicFox Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 This is a bonkers story Both sides are bonkers in my honest opinion http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/gay-cake-row-bakers-ashers-legal-costs-top-129k-34510859.html
Vicki Vixen Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Has anyone ever heard homophobic chanting at a match or comments ? I never ever have , and I'm 29 years going to football Yes, including from our own fans against Brighton. "Does your boyfriend know you're here?" Etc.
GaelicFox Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Yes, including from our own fans against Brighton. "Does your boyfriend know you're here?" Etc.Never been to Brighton for a game I never ever heard a single homophobic comment And is that above homophobic ? Crass or stupid but homophobic ? Surely to be homophobic the person or people being subjected to that chant have to be gay ? You can call me the N word all day long but because I'm not black it isn't racist
Vicki Vixen Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Never been to Brighton for a game I never ever heard a single homophobic comment And is that above homophobic ? Crass or stupid but homophobic ? Surely to be homophobic the person or people being subjected to that chant have to be gay ? You can call me the N word all day long but because I'm not black it isn't racist That's up to you how you feel about it, but I was personally offended by Bristol City singing "you're just a town full of pakis" at us even though I am white. I feel the same about the homophobic remarks though I'm not gay. Each to their own though mate.
MPH Posted 4 March 2016 Posted 4 March 2016 Never been to Brighton for a game I never ever heard a single homophobic comment And is that above homophobic ? Crass or stupid but homophobic ? Surely to be homophobic the person or people being subjected to that chant have to be gay ? You can call me the N word all day long but because I'm not black it isn't racist But the terminology is racist. Just like the terminology of the first phrase she used would still be homophobic, whether you are gay or not...
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