waylander Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Oh and it was a liger a Leicester liger . Some one smart post a picture
biggs Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 That's fine, of course. You can be as confident as you want, whether we win the league or not. I understand our players are pros and can cope with pressure, I just don't see why some people are so eager to heap extra pressure - taking into account that it's pressure and pretty much pressure alone that could cost us the title from here - on a bunch of guys who already have plenty to deal with. It might only take an accidentally-unfurled 'Champions' banner, a premature chant, a stunned silence, or a few more images of those scarves, to make the wrong result on Sunday feel a lot more serious than it should. Once again, we'll be placing all our faith in our players being able to re-root their feet to the ground when we could probably lend a hand ourselves. I'm sure they will handle it if they have to, but why make a difficult pill to swallow feel like a brick? And if Pochettino were to believe that the image of Leicester fans celebrating the title before they'd won it might motivate his team to win it themselves (and bear in mind it's an old, old trick to use negative media to motivate a side), then I see no reason why we should be so obliging. Spurs may well fail to get 76 points, but let's worry about getting 79 points ourselves before people start ramming our triumph down their throats. Because that sort of thing has a history of backfiring. And I'm fairly sure nobody ever wants to be 'over-confident', not even your good self. That would mean that your confidence isn't justified, when I sincerely hope - suspect, maybe - that it is. OK this fits more my way of thinking. I will not celebrate anything until the deed is done. Possibly I misread/understood your other post Pressure is there for both teams. Still think we have shown to handle it better so far. The fans have been better too as when we were down, the fans got louder and the team responded. Quite the opposite happened at the lane Monday night when their fans went silent. Cheers
ThaiFox Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 They're among the best paid professionals in the game. If they feel their professionalism is being questioned - as it is now in some areas of the media, thanks to comments by the likes of Fabregas - then they will do their best to demonstrate that they're good pros. When you look at our fixtures, they're of equivalent difficulty to the run of games in which we played Man City, Arsenal etc., and came out with a good points haul, but also of similar difficulty to the run of three games when we only scraped together two. So if we lose away at Man U, arguably the toughest fixture of the season, and it drives Spurs on to beat Chelsea then we'll face a key game against Everton, who have an outstanding away record. If we don't win, and Spurs respond to our failure with a home win, then it goes to an away game to the reigning champions, while their opponents could be relegated by then. It's an unlikely scenario, but Spurs have won three on the bounce at times this season, and we've had a run which - if it had occurred at the same time - would have seen us drop seven points to Spurs. It's not unthinkable that the two occurrences will repeat now, facing these fixtures. Matt Elliott and Muzzy Izzet both said that we collapsed in the 2000-01 season because we got carried away. This time around, I'd suggest we leave talking about the title in the past tense until we overcome the side that have only lost two games and conceded seven goals at home all season, or the one that's only lost three away all season, or the one that's still - as it stands - champions. Alternatively, I'd be perfectly happy to accept Spurs stumbling again, but if we're depending on one of their results then we should remember that - no matter when the game is - they will be playing with the knowledge that they can close the gap on Leicester with a win. With or without Alli, and as long a shot as it is, it's a realistic enough scenario for people to delay talking about Spurs' chances as if they no longer exist. It's far from a certainty yet. But if we focus, avoid being too flattened by any further twists that might occur and avoid the sort of arrogance which will allow Pochettino, Van Gaal, whoever's in charge of Everton and whoever's in charge of Chelsea to simply flash a few photos of Champions' scarves or social media messages in order to motivate their sides, then yes, we'll do it. How? I don't care. It could be a hard-fought draw on Sunday which just reminds Spurs that we're not in the mood to give a title away, and which fails to ignite them sufficiently against Chelsea. I don't know. Maybe we'll blow United out of the water, or there'll be the fairy tale Vardy return in the next game. Maybe we scrape a point against Everton while they trip up against Southampton. However it pans out, I think we'll stand the best chance if Ranieri learns from the title he threw away against Roma, the players continue to profit from the high pressure situations they underwent in 2014 and 2015, and everyone else - fans, staff, friends, local journos - remembers that we can help keep feet on the ground too. I, for one, have enough experience to know nothing is won until it's won. Gloating beforehand gets you nowhere.
Foxmeister Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 IMO we haven't won anything yet and we should maintain a dignified silence until we have. Anyone out there ever won a 6 game accumulator? Well that's all that stands between us and a pretty devastating outcome to the end of the season. We've got a massive advantage, but talk of writing books on who made what daft claim could backfire in sensational fashion!!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 I, for one, have enough experience to know nothing is won until it's won. Gloating beforehand gets you nowhere.This Very much this We are so close now but it isn't done yet Come on City let's finish this off Up the Foxes
Gerard Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 IMO we haven't won anything yet and we should maintain a dignified silence until we have. Anyone out there ever won a 6 game accumulator? Well that's all that stands between us and a pretty devastating outcome to the end of the season. We've got a massive advantage, but talk of writing books on who made what daft claim could backfire in sensational fashion!! Especially as in that six matches Tottenham are favourites to win all three of their matches. We will only be favourites in the Everton match of our three. Anyone who thinks this is as good as done is an absolute fool.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Yes it's not done yet and yes there are possibilities and permutations, I hear you loud, negative and clear. I'm just glad the people that count, our warriors and Premier League Title winners elect have got focus, positivity and balls. I'm finding this nervous pussy attitude tedious, toxic and for me it's spoiling what should be the greatest period in the clubs history. So boys and girls you continue with the negative crap and I'm going to enjoy us winning the Premier League as this place is sucking out all the fvcking joy!
Foxxed Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 United have great form. They're playing really well. And they are fighting strongly for a place in Europe. We will have to play a lot, a lot better than against Swansea. Can you imagine the pain after all the premature celebrations if something goes amiss? One game at a time, I heard. This next one is the most important, and the most difficult. Ain't over. Could be if we work hard enough though.
Gerard Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Yes it's not done yet and yes there are possibilities and permutations, I hear you loud, negative and clear. I'm just glad the people that count, our warriors and Premier League Title winners elect have got focus, positivity and balls. I'm finding this nervous pussy attitude tedious, toxic and for me it's spoiling what should be the greatest period in the clubs history. So boys and girls you continue with the negative crap and I'm going to enjoy us winning the Premier League as this place is sucking out all the fvcking joy! I will enjoy it if and when the job is done. At this moment in time we've won the square root of fuck all so it's not the "greatest period in the club's history" just yet. Let's not put the cart before the horse and concentrate and the job in hand rather than go on like entitled bellends presuming the league is won and whinging about how and where we should win it.
Fox 4 Life Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 United have great form. They're playing really well. And they are fighting strongly for a place in Europe. We will have to play a lot, a lot better than against Swansea. Can you imagine the pain after all the premature celebrations if something goes amiss? One game at a time, I heard. This next one is the most important, and the most difficult. Ain't over. Could be if we work hard enough though. Totally agree that this is our toughest game since City/Arsenal away but to say United have form is a bit of an overstatement. They stuttered to a 1 nil win at home to Villa and struggled to beat Everton in the FA cup semi, they are very inconsistent. The worry is they have turned up against the bigger sides this season (apart from Spurs). I can't see this being anything but a draw without Vardy but we will be fully going for it as this is a free shot in theory. I just hope Chelsea can beat Spurs as I know it's not the most exciting way to win the league but at least it will be won! Nightmare scenario is us losing and Spurs winning meaning huge pressure on the Everton game.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 I will enjoy it if and when the job is done. At this moment in time we've won the square root of fuck all so it's not the "greatest period in the club's history" just yet. Let's not put the cart before the horse and concentrate and the job in hand rather than go on like entitled bellends presuming the league is won and whinging about how and where we should win it. I very clearly said should, so based on your attitude a title challenge is only about the winning moment not enjoying the build up and fantastic hard work and results over 35/6/7 or 38 games? What a miserable existence that is and god help us in a lesser season. Believing we will do it does not make me entitled or a bellend I am positive and everything is in our favour and control. If you're happy with a negative/cautious outlook stance then that's your perogative, I will be positive, happy and enjoy it. Yes job to be done but I am totally confident we will.
Corky Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Especially as in that six matches Tottenham are favourites to win all three of their matches. We will only be favourites in the Everton match of our three. Anyone who thinks this is as good as done is an absolute fool. I don't understand that. Why would Spurs be favourites to win at Chelsea and we wouldn't?
biggs Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Yes it's not done yet and yes there are possibilities and permutations, I hear you loud, negative and clear. I'm just glad the people that count, our warriors and Premier League Title winners elect have got focus, positivity and balls. I'm finding this nervous pussy attitude tedious, toxic and for me it's spoiling what should be the greatest period in the clubs history. So boys and girls you continue with the negative crap and I'm going to enjoy us winning the Premier League as this place is sucking out all the fvcking joy! I'm with you BTS's but I'm always lifted by your posts and a few others. Cheers to you
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Dele Ali banned for 3 games. Nice.Quite correct aswell the nasty little thug Anyway up the Foxes
Gerard Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 I don't understand that. Why would Spurs be favourites to win at Chelsea and we wouldn't? Because Tottenham are rated a better team than us by the betting markets. That's why they'll be a much shorter price than us to win the PL 2016/17.
cecchini Posted 28 April 2016 Author Posted 28 April 2016 There's something very facile and patronising about this post - even though two misguided souls voted it up! "Be nice children"! What the fvck does that mean?! Not yet, eh? Strictly speaking that's correct. I despise the word 'should'. What happened to Spurs won't happen to City - because City don't fold when the going gets tough. What happened last night was a team letting their fears overwhelm them - a team which let their focus drift away. Even mentioning the 'woodwork' shows the desperation of their thinking - bars and posts don't suddenly bend to stop shots going in - a miss is as good as a mile. Dele Alli punching Yacob instead of concentrating on defending illustrated the difference between Spurs and City exactly. Immaturity. So I'd ask who or what's to stop Leicester going out at Old Trafford and doing what they've been doing all season? According to the world outside Leicestershire, Swansea was going to be a bad day at the office. Turned out different to all those Vardy-less predictions before the match. Do you believe that Spurs will recover their composure enough to steam-roller Chelsea or Southampton? Maybe two more "bad days at the office" soon appearing over Tottenham's horizon. I'm glad you're happy, cecchini, but let's not p1ss on the strawberries just when they're nicely ripening, eh? Evening Gerbold, The comment isn't facile at all. The situation is indeed very simple, we need to win 3 points and we haven't yet. Maybe you think 'Facile' means something else? I have spent the last 20 years working in the gambling industry and understand that despite something being an 'odds on cert', something else can, and often does, happen. I'm not superstitious, I don't think anyone will 'jinx it' I'm just making a statement of fact. Its not over yet. As I said, feeling good about the whole situation, I'll feel even better if we beat ManU on Sunday! Peace man - there's no need to try to belittle other peoples posts because they run counter to your own views.
easilee Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 United have great form. They're playing really well. And they are fighting strongly for a place in Europe. We will have to play a lot, a lot better than against Swansea. Can you imagine the pain after all the premature celebrations if something goes amiss? One game at a time, I heard. This next one is the most important, and the most difficult. Ain't over. Could be if we work hard enough though. United's recent form is a concern for us. I have the impression though (rightly or wrongly), that our boys have played more expertly than people give us credit for. I believe that they gauge each game as they go, and expend the required energy to accomplish what they need to. It would also explain the lack of injuries, consistency, and the cohesion of the team. I truly believe we can win on Sunday and if at any point are losing, will up the game for a draw at least.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Evening Gerbold, The comment isn't facile at all. The situation is indeed very simple, we need to win 3 points and we haven't yet. Maybe you think 'Facile' means something else? I have spent the last 20 years working in the gambling industry and understand that despite something being an 'odds on cert', something else can, and often does, happen. I'm not superstitious, I don't think anyone will 'jinx it' I'm just making a statement of fact. Its not over yet. As I said, feeling good about the whole situation, I'll feel even better if we beat ManU on Sunday! Peace man - there's no need to try to belittle other peoples posts because they run counter to your own views. May I strongly suggest you take heed of your own advice.
Sharpe's Foxes Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Because Tottenham are rated a better team than us by the betting markets. That's why they'll be a much shorter price than us to win the PL 2016/17. I assume this is before the Delli Ali suspension. Now I wouldn't like Totenham's chances against Chelsea.
Fox 4 Life Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 I assume this is before the Delli Ali suspension. Now I wouldn't like Totenham's chances against Chelsea. Could it cause them to raise their game like we did without vards?
Sharpe's Foxes Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Could it cause them to raise their game like we did without vards? I don't think so because he seems integral to what they are doing with his skill and pace and their style of play. Totenham seem to do well when they are scoring multiple goals but seem to struggle when they have to pick up clean sheets or 1-0 wins and end up taking loses or draws.
inckley fox Posted 28 April 2016 Posted 28 April 2016 Yes it's not done yet and yes there are possibilities and permutations, I hear you loud, negative and clear. I'm just glad the people that count, our warriors and Premier League Title winners elect have got focus, positivity and balls. I'm finding this nervous pussy attitude tedious, toxic and for me it's spoiling what should be the greatest period in the clubs history. So boys and girls you continue with the negative crap and I'm going to enjoy us winning the Premier League as this place is sucking out all the fvcking joy! I'm fairly sure the players, staff and everyone associated with the club ('our warriors' as you rather emotively put it) have been constantly calling for composure. Remember what Elliott and Izzet said about them blowing it in 2000-01 because they got carried away, and because too many people were crowing about title contenders or Champions League. Why not learn from them? Look, I'm pleased for you that you've decided that you are the one with 'balls' while those among us pointing out that the title isn't won (which it isn't) are 'toxic' and 'pussies'; but over-confidence could actually have an adverse effect. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't make noise, be excited, enjoy every minute of it or truly believe that we will end up as Champions. It just means that those who wave 'Champions' scarves, banners, or gloat about something which hasn't happened yet, might actually be handing our opponents, and rivals, their team-talks on a plate, while simultaneously putting our own players under even more pressure. Yes, we've coped with that pressure beautifully up to now and I expect that will continue to be the case, but why add to it? And I honestly hope those currently celebrating the foregone conclusion aren't stunned into silence if things go wrong on Sunday, nor feel the world is over if we aren't Champions come Tuesday. I hope the rest of us aren't studying pictures of people weeping over forlorn banners when we know full well there's an even more critical game coming up. If you go around prematurely proclaiming us to be the winners now - and I'm not saying that's what you, personally, are doing - then how will that stack up if we're clearly not Champions, and have a big job left to do next weekend? How will Everton feel when they see that, as far as we're concerned, it's a done deal that we roll them over? How might our own players feel? It's arrogance and an unjustified sense of entitlement among fans, owners, players, which has seen the old guard come undone in English football. There's no reason why a club like ours should stumble into the same trap. There's work to be done, let's enjoy the work now and enjoy the celebrations, all being well, when it's over.
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