Les-TA-Jon Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 The amount of articles/posts that are saying simply "Leicester need 3 points" is mind boggling. That's true of course. But it's not the whole truth, it implies that we need to win a game and have 3 chances to win the league. The WHOLE truth is a lot simpler than that. We need 3 points gained by us and/or lost by Spurs in any combination. We could lose all 3 and win the league, if Spurs lost a game. We could draw a game and Spurs draw a game. Spurs are in such a perilous position it's unreal.
inckley fox Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 The amount of articles/posts that are saying simply "Leicester need 3 points" is mind boggling. That's true of course. But it's not the whole truth, it implies that we need to win a game and have 3 chances to win the league. The WHOLE truth is a lot simpler than that. We need 3 points gained by us and/or lost by Spurs in any combination. We could lose all 3 and win the league, if Spurs lost a game. We could draw a game and Spurs draw a game. Spurs are in such a perilous position it's unreal. I agree that it's perfectly possible we have enough points already, and that the chances are hugely stacked in our favour. It makes sense that we feel optimistic about this. However, I'm slightly wary that we look at the situation from the point of view of Spurs being in a 'perilous position' while we are pretty much home and dry. They may equally feel as if they have nothing to lose, and they're perfectly capable of winning any one of their three games, or even all of them. And, bearing in mind that they have won three games on the bounce more than once, while we have had a patch of games whereby we only got two points from difficult fixtures, I think it's unwise to start counting our chickens, or talking about who scores the winning goal, or when it's scored. I have, for instance, seen some saying that they'd actually prefer to secure the title at home to Everton. If our lead over Spurs is reduced - which is the only way the title can be decided against Everton - then we'll be facing, potentially, a major banana skin. To be so sure of triumphing that a person actually wants this to happen seems surreal, because Everton are very capable of winning points away from home, even against good sides, just as United and Chelsea are generally backed to win their home games against anyone. Our success has been based on a sense of fighting to achieve the impossible and one game at a time. I think we should avoid being so sure of victory that we're knocked flat by a disappointment at Old Trafford, or in the Chelsea-Spurs game. And, equally, we need to make sure that the crowing and Champions scarves and the talk of a dream-come-true doesn't deliver Pochettino's, or Van Gaal's, or whoever-the-Everton-manager-is-at-the-time's team talk for them on a plate.
maynefox Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I hear the Fat Lady is currently warming up her vocal chords ...
thesilverfox Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 How i'm settling myself down is this. There's 9 points left to play for, and Spurs have got to get 7 MORE than us to win it. It'd be a collapse of epic proportions. I say settling down, it's not working and i'm still waking every hour thinking about it!
fuchsntf Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 When Cottee was on our books, he scored at old trafford giving us the 3 points... That kept in mind, I just think its marvellous, even beautifull that pundits, outside reporters TV sports commentators, and many of the fans, even believe we could actually go to Manu and get a result, that in itself shows what an incredible season we have had, Plus what a team and set up we have at Leicester. Most important though, no matter how nervous or apprehensive our fans may get, We can be confident, that Ranieris boy will not be taking anything for granted, incredibly they might not even be nervous or feel any pressure the outside world world might try and put up on them. They have that extra unknown that their teams soul and character holds that has created this unique characteristic within. I just feel somewhere between ' Bluetinted' thoughts and my stance of , no games lost no probs. I really..actually ..this could ...somehow..someway...have an inkling... maybe...probably...Trotteresk...lesserwatch...he who dares....moment, see BWM with CR.....lift a bright shining bit of stuff...bound with BW ribbons...high into the air..!! Engraved with....L E I C E S T E R....... C I T Y
inckley fox Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I had a conversation with someone a while back who said that, because of the fixture list and the two main rivals rarely playing at the same time, the title would probably be won when the winners weren't playing. Especially if the winners were to be Leicester or, back when it was a possibility, Arsenal. Specifically, the scheduling appears to have been based on TV companies feeling that the real drama lies in Spurs' games. The fact that they have been programmed to play after Leicester in 6 or so of the final 8 fixtures, indicates that someone was expecting a rally. In a race between two sides it's the second game which clarifies whether points have been gained or lost, and so people clearly felt that the major points would be gained by Spurs. They desperately want to broadcast the moment the winners win it. The Spurs surge might happen yet, and the programming may even help. If Spurs were to play first this weekend, I'd have fully expected a loss, but if they see that chink of light after a slip-up by us it may drive them on against Chelsea. In fact, every time Spurs play they will either know they're out of it, or know that they can reduce our lead. But as it stands there seems to be a solid chance that we'll be at home glued to our TV screens if our title-winning moment does arrive. Sunday is our best chance of changing that. But I'd take it happening on Monday night gladly, and - while retrospect may change this - am happy to say that I'd prefer to have it wrapped up without the fireworks and the spontaneous celebrations, than for us to face the decisive showdown with Everton. I suspect we'd win it, but the reason it's so likely that we win the league is that there are 6 critical games, any one of which needs to go fully in our favour. If it's down to four people won't care whether the winning goal is a Vardy masterclass or something bouncing in off Stones' bum.
Jazzy_Jeff Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 If we don't beat Utd I'm sure Chelsea would take great pleasure in ending Spurs title challenge. If we lose and Spurs do win. We'll deal with it.
Monsell1976 Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I think we will win it, after we lose at Man U, and then Chelsea beat Spurs, party time at home to Everton. And I think the whole ground should stand and sing, " stand up, for the champions", as the players come out against Everton, now if that wouldn't give you goose bumps, nothing will
richardsfoxes Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 We have one hand, 3 fingers and a thumb on the trophy just gotta get that little pinky on.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 It's not just waiting for the fat lady to sing, I want her to finish the ****ing concert and then we can hopefully celebrate
Gerard Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I agree that it's perfectly possible we have enough points already, and that the chances are hugely stacked in our favour. It makes sense that we feel optimistic about this. However, I'm slightly wary that we look at the situation from the point of view of Spurs being in a 'perilous position' while we are pretty much home and dry. They may equally feel as if they have nothing to lose, and they're perfectly capable of winning any one of their three games, or even all of them. And, bearing in mind that they have won three games on the bounce more than once, while we have had a patch of games whereby we only got two points from difficult fixtures, I think it's unwise to start counting our chickens, or talking about who scores the winning goal, or when it's scored. I have, for instance, seen some saying that they'd actually prefer to secure the title at home to Everton. If our lead over Spurs is reduced - which is the only way the title can be decided against Everton - then we'll be facing, potentially, a major banana skin. To be so sure of triumphing that a person actually wants this to happen seems surreal, because Everton are very capable of winning points away from home, even against good sides, just as United and Chelsea are generally backed to win their home games against anyone. Our success has been based on a sense of fighting to achieve the impossible and one game at a time. I think we should avoid being so sure of victory that we're knocked flat by a disappointment at Old Trafford, or in the Chelsea-Spurs game. And, equally, we need to make sure that the crowing and Champions scarves and the talk of a dream-come-true doesn't deliver Pochettino's, or Van Gaal's, or whoever-the-Everton-manager-is-at-the-time's team talk for them on a plate. I read that post too and it's amazing some people are picking and choosing when the ideal time would be to win the title, they said they didn't want Chelsea to win it for us, Jesus Christ. If we don't win the title this weekend then the Everton match is going to be absolutely huge. There are two huge matches left out of the six. Chelsea vs Tottenham Leicester vs Everton If we don't get a favourable result in one of those matches then the title is right up in the air again. If we aren't Champions on 10pm on Monday I'll be bricking it again, the only caveat to that is if we're 6pts clear because we lost and Tottenham drew.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I think we will win it, after we lose at Man U, and then Chelsea beat Spurs, party time at home to Everton. And I think the whole ground should stand and sing, " stand up, for the champions", as the players come out against Everton, now if that wouldn't give you goose bumps, nothing will I have similar thoughts to you on this Monse, though it wouldn't surprise me if our fantastic team of warriors sealed the deal on Sunday I'm expecting a draw and for Chelsea to finish off a crushed Spuds feint title hopes on Monday night. Then party time v Everton
Babylon Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I had a conversation with someone a while back who said that, because of the fixture list and the two main rivals rarely playing at the same time, the title would probably be won when the winners weren't playing. Especially if the winners were to be Leicester or, back when it was a possibility, Arsenal. Specifically, the scheduling appears to have been based on TV companies feeling that the real drama lies in Spurs' games. The fact that they have been programmed to play after Leicester in 6 or so of the final 8 fixtures, indicates that someone was expecting a rally. In a race between two sides it's the second game which clarifies whether points have been gained or lost, and so people clearly felt that the major points would be gained by Spurs. They desperately want to broadcast the moment the winners win it. The Spurs surge might happen yet, and the programming may even help. If Spurs were to play first this weekend, I'd have fully expected a loss, but if they see that chink of light after a slip-up by us it may drive them on against Chelsea. In fact, every time Spurs play they will either know they're out of it, or know that they can reduce our lead. But as it stands there seems to be a solid chance that we'll be at home glued to our TV screens if our title-winning moment does arrive. Sunday is our best chance of changing that. But I'd take it happening on Monday night gladly, and - while retrospect may change this - am happy to say that I'd prefer to have it wrapped up without the fireworks and the spontaneous celebrations, than for us to face the decisive showdown with Everton. I suspect we'd win it, but the reason it's so likely that we win the league is that there are 6 critical games, any one of which needs to go fully in our favour. If it's down to four people won't care whether the winning goal is a Vardy masterclass or something bouncing in off Stones' bum. Exactly how I feel.
Stevosevic Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 People choosing when we win it? Wow. Spurs closing ground on us this weekend would leave us with the most pressure game possible at home to Everton. Chelsea beat Spurs please, I don't care if we are playing or not.
Great Boos Up Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 It's won! We're just teasing the spuds a little longer.
Gerard Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 It's won! We're just teasing the spuds a little longer. 5% of the time Tottenham win it from here. Have a word with yourself.
Foxmeister Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 For Spurs' to win it their worst result has to be better than our best and even that could not be enough!
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 5% of the time Tottenham win it from here. Have a word with yourself. I'd say it's more like 1%. Maybe I'm quibbling over numbers here but 1 in 20 seems a rather generous proability for Tottenham. This isn't over, indeed two bad results this weekend will put it right back on, but we needn't be overly worried IMO.
Gerard Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 I'd say it's more like 1%. Maybe I'm quibbling over numbers here but 1 in 20 seems a rather generous proability for Tottenham. This isn't over, indeed two bad results this weekend will put it right back on, but we needn't be overly worried IMO. It's actually just over 5% of the time. We should win this but it's far from a foregone conclusion. We need 3pts or to rely on Tottenham dropping more points. The route to 3pts is either to win one of our remaining games or draw all three. It will be a tough ask to go away at Man Utd & Chelsea and either win or get two draws. If we don't do that we have to beat Everton or it's in Tottenham's hands. I can easily see a feasible scenario for the remainder of the season where we fail to win the league. Betfair has Tottenham at about a 5% chance. This price isn't plucked out of thin air but a derivative of the prices in the six games left that Tottenham and Leicester have. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/football/market/1.118280148
ithuriel Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 Spurs need to win their 3 games, their best scenario for us is 2 draws and a defeat. We only need 1 win or a draw and them to draw or just for them to lose. Basically, they need all 6 games to go for them, we only need 1 or 2 at best.
m4DD0gg Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 Think Everton will be trickier than people think. They have lost only twice away in the league this season.
ithuriel Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 Everton now have nothing but pride to play for, no games are easy and none of the 35 games already played were taken for granted either but to think that this team is going to collapse now, cant see that happening. We could win any one of our three games or even all three and the Spurs are playing two teams who still have something to play for at present plus a team that wants to beat them and at whose ground they have not won since 1989? Got the 1989 from that Spurred On shite
AKCJ Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 It's actually just over 5% of the time. We should win this but it's far from a foregone conclusion. We need 3pts or to rely on Tottenham dropping more points. The route to 3pts is either to win one of our remaining games or draw all three. It will be a tough ask to go away at Man Utd & Chelsea and either win or get two draws. If we don't do that we have to beat Everton or it's in Tottenham's hands. I can easily see a feasible scenario for the remainder of the season where we fail to win the league. Betfair has Tottenham at about a 5% chance. This price isn't plucked out of thin air but a derivative of the prices in the six games left that Tottenham and Leicester have. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/football/market/1.118280148 Those figures are derived on what Betfair is willing to offer to generate profit rather than actual probability.
David Hankey Posted 27 April 2016 Posted 27 April 2016 She'll be singing after the next round of matches!!
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