Outgoings?

[Gerard]

Well in my original post I said the ideal scenario would be to have 13 players fighting for those 6 places in midfield and forward lines. If we got Luan in and sold Okazaki, Ulloa & Albrighton for £25m-£30m then that leaves us money to get another player in to make the numbers up to 13. I'm not saying we will sell all three but I would suggest we would be very receptive to decent offers for them.

 

1) Mendy

2) Drinkwater

3) Kante

4) King

5) James

6) Amartey

7) Albrighton

8) Schlupp

9) Gray

10) Mahrez

11) Musa

12) Vardy

13) Luan ???????????

14) Ulloa

15) Okazaki

[stix]

I think we'd sell Okazaki, Ulloa and Albrighton if we had half decent offers for them.

Okazaki and Ulloa won't be starters and it's good business to sell 30 year old reserves for decent money if you can.

If we play 4-3-3 as our stock formation Albrighton doesn't really fit that as a defensive winger. He'd be good to bring on for Mahrez when we are winning but I can't see him starting much. His main asset is his work rate and crossing and without an aerial presence in the box he becomes less effective.

I'll eat my hat if we sell any of those three.

They contributed massively to us winning the league ffs.

We need more numbers in the squad for next season. Rotation is key.

[EGBFitness]

Well in my original post I said the ideal scenario would be to have 13 players fighting for those 6 places in midfield and forward lines. If we got Luan in and sold Okazaki, Ulloa & Albrighton for £25m-£30m then that leaves us money to get another player in to make the numbers up to 13. I'm not saying we will sell all three but I would suggest we would be very receptive to decent offers for them.

1) Mendy

2) Drinkwater

3) Kante

4) King

5) James

6) Amartey

7) Albrighton

8) Schlupp

9) Gray

10) Mahrez

11) Musa

12) Vardy

13) Luan ???????????

14) Ulloa

15) Okazaki

So basically what your trying to suggest is you'd happily get rid of Okazaki for an unproven/young player and wouldn't mind cashing in on Ulloa and Albrighton too!?

Mate, they have all contributed massively last season - yes this is a new season coming but they still have plenty to offer in terms of rotation and tactics for next season. Buying and selling doesn't always work so why unsettle a very well balanced and professional squad for the sakes of a few quid.

Going back to your original post aswell from my first point, I don't understand the desire for Shinji to leave so much - he is a well liked member of the squad, puts a good shift in, can score goals, experienced in the league and seems to be a true professional (as I mentioned, he has basically played out of position all season) plus he has been subbed for Ulloa in about every game going and hasn't kicked off once! He is a good squad player and still has something to offer wether it's behind Vardy with a changed formation, rotation with Vardy with fixtures or coming on as a sub - would be silly to sell him.

[foxes21]

sell albrighton?

are you having a laugh

[hackneyfox]

Okazaki has a decent scoring record in The Bundesliga and for Japan. He played a different role for us, no reason to think that if asked to he couldn't be chipping in with 10-15 goals a season. 

With Musa signed and perhaps another on the way in it seems he'll spend most of his time on the bench, at best.

[hackneyfox]

We surely won't be selling Albrighton any time soon, we've yet to see whether Musa is up to the role, assuming that's where Ranieri sees him playing.

If Musa was slow to adjust then we'd only have Schlupp as the alternative.

[Will1981]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a big offer for Okazaki from the Chinese league because of their registration rules.

[FireFox]

We may be getting the personnel to play 4-3-3, but you can't just rule out ever playing 4-4-2 during the season. An injury to any of the 3 midfield players and no doubt it's back to 4-4-2. Also with Champions League and the domestic cups, there will be time for squad rotation and sometimes that'll mean playing 4-4-2.

 

Also, not suggesting it's likely to happen, but what if one of the new signing just doesn't adapt to the Premier League? Trying to change too much of the squad at once is never a good idea. So unless we get over-priced offers for Okazaki, Ulloa, or Albrighton, why sell?

 

 

As for Hamer, Moore, Benalouane, De Laet, James, Inler, and Lawrence....

 

Personally, I like RDL. There is also no news of signing another RB, so he's worth having around in case Simpson gets injured. (That is, unless Claudio trusts one of Hernandez, Amartey, Was, or Benny more as 2nd choice RB.) However, he might want to leave... as he also won't even be getting on the bench for PL or CL games. Unless Simpson gets injured, the domestic cups are all he can hope to play.

 

I liked the look of Benny, but is he 5th choice CB behind Was and Hernandez? I also think Inler has something to offer, but again, is he 6th choice behind King and Amartey?

 

James, Moore, and Lawrence should all be sold if we can get a decent price, otherwise, loan them out.

 

Sell Hamer for anything.

[foxes21]

Even the thought of selling albrighton 'any time soon' is ridiculous.

I hope Albrighton stays here for the rest of his career, like alot of our players.

[shen]

Okazaki has a decent scoring record in The Bundesliga and for Japan. He played a different role for us, no reason to think that if asked to he couldn't be chipping in with 10-15 goals a season.

With Musa signed and perhaps another on the way in it seems he'll spend most of his time on the bench, at best.

On the contrary, I don't see there's evidence he'll even get 10 next season, even if he got as much playing time. He is anything but clinical.

[themightyfin]

How anyone can say we should listen to offers for Okazaki is beyond me.

The guy has just played a major role in helping his team win the league.

Remember he was playing out of position and in a new league in fact a new country so if anything I'm expecting him to kick on this season.

When will people realise this is not Football manager where you can buy 40 players and sell 40 players a season.

Albrighton Okazaki and Leo all played big parts in our success last season and with the demands of more games this season they will be needed just as much.

To find players with the chemistry that the squad had last season is a very rare thing and to think people would even think about splitting that up if we can at all help it is madness.

I am very happy at the way our business is going adding 5-6 players and keeping last seasons squad together is giving is the best chance of doing something special again.

[fuchsntf]

James should stay..cant understand the fans who are eager to see him go.

I still reckon he is one of our better players, and can boost our squad.

[fuchsntf]

We need a quality squad, so I dont see too many of the players listed in this thread, will

be moved on.Until our pre-season games are done and dusted, why should we be forcing

offloads.Theres still enough time, and there will be some 'natural moves' seen from the side

Of management and coaching staff.

I wont cherry pick names, because in 3-4 months, we might be happy to have kept them.

[WigstonWanderer]

I think we'd sell Okazaki, Ulloa and Albrighton if we had half decent offers for them.

 

Okazaki and Ulloa won't be starters and it's good business to sell 30 year old reserves for decent money if you can.

 

If we play 4-3-3 as our stock formation Albrighton doesn't really fit that as a defensive winger. He'd be good to bring on for Mahrez when we are winning but I can't see him starting much. His main asset is his work rate and crossing and without an aerial presence in the box he becomes less effective.

Not safe to sell anyone who was regularly involved in our title-winning performances yet. Wait and see how the newcomers settle in. Our team and tactics from last season will be a useful fallback if it all goes to worms with 433, replacement players, etc.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

CR wants 5 forwards. He tried to pick up Musa last January, and Luan will have to adjust to the PL in any case. We were very lucky with injuries and unlucky in cup runs last year. And Okazaki had an off-year last year, mainly because of learning a new system. He has been scoring for Japan, and I expect him to surprise people next year.

[Gerard]

It looks like I'm swimming against the tide on this one. 

 

If 4-3-3 is our stock formation then Okazaki or Ulloa can only play one position in that team and Vardy and Musa would be ahead of them. Assuming we sign Luan then he might be ahead of them as well as he often plays a "false 9". I would guess our strategy at this moment in time would be to sell one of Okazaki or Ulloa and keep the other as a squad player. As I've said before it's good business to sell 30 year old strikers for good money if they aren't going to play in the first team too often.

 

As for Albrighton I'd happily keep him but I believe if we got a good offer for him we'd sell him. Im a 4-3-3 he can play two of those positions but he doesn't really suit the wide forward role, I would suggest Mahrez, Musa, Schlupp, Gray and Luan would all be ahead of him and far better suited to playing the wide forward role. Albrighton would be a good sub for Mahrez if we want to hold onto a lead but I don't see him starting too much in a 4-3-3. I think we'll keep Albrighton as he has a lot of uses in a 4-4-2 and keeps the team well balanced in that formation playing the defensive winger role.

 

I appreciate a lot of you want to show loyalty to players who won us the league but every player needs to be evaluated and asked what does he bring to the squad and what is he worth in monetary terms in the market? 

[foxes21]

@@Gerard we need to keep Albrighton/Okazaki. Not because of sentiment, but because they are good players, simple as that.

As people have said Okazaki could surprise a few people this year in a 4-3-3 as he's been playing as a lone striker most his career, bar last season. And there aren't many better crossers of the ball, than Albrighton & I'm sure he could adapt to the 4-3-3 too. Not to mention, both these players give us different options, If we want to play a 4-4-2, or need to set up defensively.

Cant believe you are even contemplating the thought of selling them.

[Gerard]

We'll just have to agree to disagree then.

 

In a 4-3-3 Okazaki can't be trusted to play the striker role, he scored 5 of our 68 league goals last season. He doesn't offer an attribute to worry centre halves other than work rate. Even coming on as a sub for Vardy with 20 mins to go when we're winning is a bad idea as he won't offer a good enough goal threat. Okazaki will be no more than a squad player who plays a few cup games next season unless we have big injury worries. If we get a decent offer for him I'm sure we'd sell as he's 30 and will be sparsely used next season. 

 

Football teams are constantly evolving and he was arguably our weakest player last season and Musa and Luan will be ahead of him. Even Ulloa will be ahead of him as his attributes are far better suited to the striker role in a 4-3-3.

[Koke]

I'd keep Okazaki but if a decent offer comes in I'd accept it. He's 30 years old and most likely won't be first choice next season.

Appreciate what he has achieved here with us but if we get Luan in Okazaki will be very low in the pecking order.

Just to reiterate, I'd only sell him IF a decent offer comes in.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

Another, more cynical, reason to keep Okazaki, is financial. He put LCFC on the map in Japan, the world's second most profitable market. He gets LCFC on the screen, and increases the value of the club. Even if he doesn’t earn regular starts - which is not a given - him coming off the bench has value, especially given the realities of FFP.

[themightyfin]

He's 30! So what? If we were that worried about his age we would not have Signed him on a 4 year contract.

What do people here not understand that we will be needing All the players From last year and more

I hardly think the owners are worried about selling him to bank a few million it's not like the coffers are empty.

And show me where it says we are going to be playing 4-3-3?????

Nobody at the club has suggested that it's just people guessing here because of the quality of players we have signed so far.

Why on earth would we move from 4-4-2 that won us the league Last year.

I'd expect all the players to be rotated at some point and we are going to need them all

What EXATLY has Okazaki done to suggest that he can't compete for a place in the team?

He's just played a major role in the league champions side so why on earth would we just ditch him now?

He is staying just like Albrighton and Leo they are good players and we need them

[mozartfox]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a big offer for Okazaki from the Chinese league because of their registration rules.

mmmm.. Japanese players in China. Not so sure, the Chinese have never forgiven them for Nanjing.

[Guest]

mmmm.. Japanese players in China. Not so sure, the Chinese have never forgiven them for Nanjing.

 

Who did he play for? 

[Gerard]

He's 30! So what? If we were that worried about his age we would not have Signed him on a 4 year contract.

What do people here not understand that we will be needing All the players From last year and more

I hardly think the owners are worried about selling him to bank a few million it's not like the coffers are empty.

And show me where it says we are going to be playing 4-3-3?????

Nobody at the club has suggested that it's just people guessing here because of the quality of players we have signed so far.

Why on earth would we move from 4-4-2 that won us the league Last year.

I'd expect all the players to be rotated at some point and we are going to need them all

What EXATLY has Okazaki done to suggest that he can't compete for a place in the team?

He's just played a major role in the league champions side so why on earth would we just ditch him now?

He is staying just like Albrighton and Leo they are good players and we need them

 

@@ramadaone who is a proven ITK has said 4-3-3 is on the agenda http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/107558-4-3-3/

 

Okazaki was arguably our weakest link last season and his No10 position may becoming obsolete.

 

Plus we have Musa and maybe Luan overtaking him, at 30 years old playing 4-3-3 his chances will be very limited.

 

Like @@Koke said I would advocate selling him for a decent offer only.

[WigstonWanderer]

@@ramadaone who is a proven ITK has said 4-3-3 is on the agenda http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/107558-4-3-3/

 

Okazaki was arguably our weakest link last season and his No10 position may becoming obsolete.

 

Plus we have Musa and maybe Luan overtaking him, at 30 years old playing 4-3-3 his chances will be very limited.

 

Like @@Koke said I would advocate selling him for a decent offer only.

Yes but both 433 and new players are unproven as yet for us. Surely best to keep our PL winning set up intact until we have a proven alternative.