4-3-3

[foxes21]

so if the ITK's are right, we are switching to a 4-3-3. How does everyone feel about this?

Personally, I think the 4-3-3 we played against man city @ home had potential. We limited them to about 1 chance, but had 4/5 great chances ourselves. With a pre season behind us working on this formation & the better personnel (Musa & Mendy), we could be onto something.

If we are going to do well this year, squad rotation & tactical changes game to game will be key.

Mahrez-Vardy-Musa - for counter attacks.

Albrighton-New CF-Gray/Schlupp - for when teams sit back.

Okazaki/Ulloa gives us the option to switch back to 4-4-2, partnering either Vardy/New CF (Slimani or Luan?) up top.

[Webbo]

What's wrong with the formation we won our only ever league championship with?

[foxes21]

What's wrong with the formation we won our only ever league championship with?

Nothing, but the ITK's are saying we are switching to 4-3-3

[richardsfoxes]

I guess we'll see what he does against United, no harm in trying it but i cant see us just changing a formation that we're so successful with. 

[WigstonWanderer]

Surely Mahrez would still be key against teams that sit back?

[Babylon]

Nothing, but the ITK's are saying we are switching to 4-3-3

Nobody has said that by the way, it's just guess work

 

EDIT: someone in anther thread says he has said that. Not seem them myself, but take there word for it.

[Guest CityFan 06]

It might be an option for Europe maybe, as CL teams will set up well and probably differently to the Premier League. Our current formation & style seems to suit the PL, as proven. We're the best counter attacking team in the Premier League IMO, and hopefully we contiune that style with it being a proven success.

 

The same for Europe, we might keep the same style and formation. But, I reckon they are working on 4-3-3 as an alternative option so if we know we need to change to a certain formation in any particular game, we can do this with 4-3-3, with the players already having some experience of how it works for our side & who plays where. 

 

Plenty of positional options though for a range of formations:

For example as a front three, we could have Musa/Vardy/Gray or Musa/Vardy/Mahrez, and in the midfield, Drinkwater/Kante/Mendy or Drinkwater/Mendy/Amartey. That's just a few ideas but there's more than that too. We've still got the likes of King, Albrighton, Inler(?) and Schlupp. Some excellent potential whatever formation we choose.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Why do people keep saying, "when we play Champions Leauge teams"? We played Champions League teams 8 times last season and 8 times the season before. We did very well against them. If we have the attitude that these teams are fantastic, awesome, behemoths that will sweep us aside unless we find some magical formula, which seems to be some peoples' attitude here, then we've lost before we start.

 

Fortunately, said people do not coach our team.

 

  :scarf: :scarf:

[Ric Flair]

I'm quite amazed there's any knowledge of such a switch given pre-season has barely started. I think what we might be seeing is a strategy of giving ourselves increased options of changing systems. We played 4-3-3 a few times last year with very mixed performances and would have to revert back to our 4-4-1-1 to get the result needed and perhaps Ranieri realised he didn't really have the necessary personnel to play this way. That said, I didn't see too much wrong with how we pissed the league last season and I'd hate to see us change our method of play, I love our style and we know what we're good at. Possession football is seriously being tested right now and I hope we're not trying to become embroiled in this way of playing to try and compete with Europe's elite as we're up against them because we play a different way and have exploited this.

[ramadaone]

4-3-3 being effective was not possible last year due to the personnel available

The intention is to change that but is obviously dependent on getting the target players in

Will it be 4-3-3 every week ?

I very much doubt it but it will be required in certain games

Either a way a conventional no. 10 who plays in the hole as a playmaker is not on the agenda

[Gerard]

4-3-3 being effective was not possible last year due to the personnel available

The intention is to change that but is obviously dependent on getting the target players in

Will it be 4-3-3 every week ?

I very much doubt it but it will be required in certain games

Either a way a conventional no. 10 who plays in the hole as a playmaker is not on the agenda

 

What about an attacking right back?

 

If we play 4-3-3 will we want more offensively from our full backs or are you not privy to that information?

[MC Prussian]

We'll highly likely stick with the established 4-4-2 in the league, but may be able to opt for a 4-3-3 in European games.

 

In any case, I do hope we get Musa (and a second striker and maybe another full-back) and we're ready to go.

[ealingfox]

The reality is the orthodox 4-3-3 is a shite formation.

People have gotten caught up in Barcelona making it work during a decade wherein they've put together some of the best starting XIs of all time and consistently had probably the best player of all time.

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

I haven't read much about Musa as others will know. Is he more of a winger or striker?

If we want to play 433 will obviously be to help accommate him.

But id like to stick with 442 personally. Worked so well

[Strokes]

I haven't read much about Musa as others will know. Is he more of a winger or striker?

If we want to play 433 will obviously be to help accommate him.

But id like to stick with 442 personally. Worked so well

I'm not sure we will be accommodating anyone, he will be targeted with this in mind.

[BlueBoy1]

Stick to what works.

As the wise Mike Bassett once said, 4, 4 f*****g 2.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

The reality is the orthodox 4-3-3 is a shite formation.

People have gotten caught up in Barcelona making it work during a decade wherein they've put together some of the best starting XIs of all time and consistently had probably the best player of all time.

Agree with very little you write but this is spot on. I think 4-3-3 is a largely negative formation all about having a lot of bodies in midfield and attacking wise, relies on individual brilliance rather than a cohesive team (not our strength)

[Jobyfox]

I really hope we haven't got a whole recruitment strategy devised around targeting players to fit a predetermined formation. In fact I doubt this very much.

You pick the formation to get the best out of the players at your disposal and then tweak it occasionally to fit specific opposition.

If we keep hold of the likes of Vardy, Mahrez and Kante then I can't see us changing our formation and style too much. If we lose one or two of them - then it all depends on who comes in - but I don't think that Ranieri will be playing a formation (4-3-3) come what may.

[Grey Fox]

4-3-3 being effective was not possible last year due to the personnel available

The intention is to change that but is obviously dependent on getting the target players in

Will it be 4-3-3 every week ?

I very much doubt it but it will be required in certain games

Either a way a conventional no. 10 who plays in the hole as a playmaker is not on the agenda

 

Do you know if there are any other attacking players on the agenda after Musa?  Or even any other players?

[EverybodyDannsNow]

I find it very hard to believe that Ranieri is trying to buy players to fit into a brand new formation when we've just won the Premier League by 10 points playing 4-4-2. If it ain't broken...

[Oxfordfox83]

Nobody has said that by the way, it's just guess work

EDIT: someone in anther thread says he has said that. Not seem them myself, but take there word for it.

Yikes, glad I didn't read this pre-edit. Are you on the inhibition reducer tonight Babs?

[Carl the Llama]

What's wrong with the formation we won our only ever league championship with?

First ever. 

[Gerard]

I find it very hard to believe that Ranieri is trying to buy players to fit into a brand new formation when we've just won the Premier League by 10 points playing 4-4-2. If it ain't broken...

 

Ranieri will know how ideally he wants a team to play so this will only be part of his evolution for the team.

 

I quite like the idea.

 

A solid back four

Mendy sitting in front of it spraying the ball around and make sure the team ticks over

Kante and Drinkwater going box to box

The pace of Vardy & Musa

Mahrez, the "man with the key"

 

Without the ball it's 4-5-1 and whilst Mahrez may not be the best defensively Musa is apparently a work horse as is Vardy and three excellent defensive midfielders behind them.

 

Against the bus parker's we'd probably sacrifice Mendy for a No10.

 

I'd imagine we'll be very hard to beat next season as we will be built as a team that doesn't concede goals often. We could be in our element against sides who expect to beat us soaking up pressure and hitting them on the counter.

[Tielemans63]

It could be that Claudio feels that 442 might get picked apart in the Champions League. I doubt he'll scrap an incredibly successful formation just like that. The way I see it the club are sensibly bringing in players to give us the option of playing a couple of different systems. Could be wrong obviously, but I fully expect us start the season with 442 v Hull.

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[filbertstreet]

It could be that Claudio feels that 442 might get picked apart in the Champions League. I doubt he'll scrap an incredibly successful formation just like that. The way I see it the club are sensibly bringing in players to give us the option of playing a couple of different systems. Could be wrong obviously, but I fully expect us start the season with 442 v Hull.

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if Kante stays we'll have the best of both worlds and start 4-4-3 against Hull