thegaffa Posted 14 September 2016 Share Posted 14 September 2016 My cousin was in the academy for 7 years some time back. Tony Loughlan ( became Roy Keanes assistant manager at Sunderland ) was his coach and he told my cousin Basically were looking at young athletes to turn into footballers, I think that says it all really. Although I believe developing talent requires many factors from the player themselves, coaches, parents and clubs philosophies. my thought is that too many clubs stockpile potential players and that there is no patience in football, clubs want success too soon and youngsters chase the wage too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 14 September 2016 Share Posted 14 September 2016 14 hours ago, BigWesMorgan said: Lost again Although not great I don't think it was the same team that lost at Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 14 September 2016 Share Posted 14 September 2016 1 hour ago, thegaffa said: My cousin was in the academy for 7 years some time back. Tony Loughlan ( became Roy Keanes assistant manager at Sunderland ) was his coach and he told my cousin Basically were looking at young athletes to turn into footballers, I think that says it all really. Although I believe developing talent requires many factors from the player themselves, coaches, parents and clubs philosophies. my thought is that too many clubs stockpile potential players and that there is no patience in football, clubs want success too soon and youngsters chase the wage too much. That's been going on for much longer. A scout came along to watch some school training of ours about 13/14 years ago and he was there to watch one lad and we were basically told to pass it over the top to him so he could show off his pace/running ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffa Posted 14 September 2016 Share Posted 14 September 2016 6 hours ago, AjcW said: That's been going on for much longer. A scout came along to watch some school training of ours about 13/14 years ago and he was there to watch one lad and we were basically told to pass it over the top to him so he could show off his pace/running ability Sad state that is mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 15 September 2016 Share Posted 15 September 2016 I believe that the truth is, the first team have come such a long way in a short period of time, that the academy just cannot in all fairness, keep up with the expectations of the footballing situation that has been created by our success. The academy team now is expected to be at a European elite level, when in reality it is not at an elite... elite level nationally. Yes we have a top academy with many exciting prospects but within the industry there are clubs like Man city and Chelsea that will think nothing to pay £1,000,000 for a 10 year old from anywhere in the world, and at that level of financial backing, it is almost impossible to complete with the richest clubs in Europe, when our club looking is taking the best players from our county. Standards will improve steadily with the academy in time as the owners investment will pay off over the years to come, but it is a lofty expectation that we will win competitions at a national or European levels. The gap in standard will close but it's not something that can be done overnight. Personally I am pleased that the young local players get first refusal on entering the acafemy system rather than buying in. The end goal for all young players brought in to the academy system is that they become a professional. This however is not possible for the vast majority as only a few places are available in football. I think when speaking about the academy and the people working there, you have to take in the difficulty of the challenge that is faced, as the club has grown, which is fantastic, and the levels that the other huge rich clubs are going too, it's not that simple to look at short term results and say... Lost again. If I was watching a youth football match, and the ball was constantly being lumped over the top I'd be very disheartened! What are young players learning smashing the ball? Unfortunately I see it often, and those players, even talented ones plsying under poor guidance are highly unlikely to be noticed. Finally and most importantly, the academy deals with kids, many excellent footballers, who due to the nature of the industry as I have explained chances are will not be a professional, the club acknowledges it's responsibility to be human whilst dealing with young players, but while they are learning and developing in a happy environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 17 September 2016 Share Posted 17 September 2016 How's Hamza doing at Burton Albion? Good enough for us to recall him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 17 September 2016 Share Posted 17 September 2016 1 hour ago, Foxxed said: How's Hamza doing at Burton Albion? Good enough for us to recall him?? I'll answer my own question: https://www.whoscored.com/Players/312670 Benched, normally. Played well when he started apparently. One assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightySystem Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 Live stream against Southampton on youtube, currently 1-1 at half time, Muskwe with ours just before the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 martis looks rapid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightySystem Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 That Martis we bought in the summer looking good at the start of the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 Muskwe seems to be quite encouraging. Always seems to score. Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightySystem Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 Scored a nice header in the first half, could have had another but he was offside and it was disallowed. Our goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salieri Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 The co commentator in this sounds like some bored, stoned kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 Nice header that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightySystem Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 2 minutes ago, Salieri said: The co commentator in this sounds like some bored, stoned kid. One of there U23 players so pretty accurate description Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyfox Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 Martis and uche look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightySystem Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 2-2 full time scored the second about 2 minutes after going behind again. I wonder why the club don't do livestreams themselves of the U23 games, hell even put it behind foxes player instead of youtube. Im guessing though the club don't really care anymore as in the past they used to do minute by minute updates on twitter but now rarely bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyfox Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 32 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Muskwe seems to be quite encouraging. Always seems to score. Any good? He's ok mate but I think martis and uche are better prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 Raul Uche is actually real then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyfox Posted 19 September 2016 Share Posted 19 September 2016 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Raul Uche is actually real then! Yeah he came on for u23 tonight for 20mins and looked very tidy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 20 September 2016 Share Posted 20 September 2016 Claudio is adamant that he does not want first team players in the lower teams. Will no doubt be exceptions + players proving fitness etc. That is his general rule and will no doubt have/will affected results. Not gone down that well in certain circles at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 20 September 2016 Share Posted 20 September 2016 15 minutes ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: Claudio is adamant that he does not want first team players in the lower teams. Will no doubt be exceptions + players proving fitness etc. That is his general rule and will no doubt have/will affected results. Not gone down that well in certain circles at the club If we are to improve our academy players then they need as much exposure to the best standard of football and rather than a lot of them missing out due to the team being full of fringe 1st team players this will be better for them. The whole academy needs refreshing in my opinion, there's nowhere near enough end product given we're category A status, I hope the recruitment process of improving all age groups is as important on the agenda as is continuing to improve the 1st team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 20 September 2016 Share Posted 20 September 2016 Muskwe, Darnell Johnson & Elliot Moore have the potential to make the step up. Especially Johnson & Moore with our shortage in defence. The talent is there plus Ulche & Martis looked promising yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 20 September 2016 Share Posted 20 September 2016 2 hours ago, foxes21 said: Muskwe, Darnell Johnson & Elliot Moore have the potential to make the step up. Especially Johnson & Moore with our shortage in defence. The talent is there plus Ulche & Martis looked promising yesterday Not sure Elliot Moore does if im honest. Not been impressed greatly by him in a number of games. Harvey Barnes, Muskwe and possibly Johnson are the 3 I'd say have half a chance of playing here. Barnes looks like a mark Davies type of midfielder when I've seen him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightySystem Posted 20 September 2016 Share Posted 20 September 2016 53 minutes ago, hornyhollthefox123 said: Not sure Elliot Moore does if im honest. Not been impressed greatly by him in a number of games. Harvey Barnes, Muskwe and possibly Johnson are the 3 I'd say have half a chance of playing here. Barnes looks like a mark Davies type of midfielder when I've seen him.. Heard alot of good thinks about Barnes and was apparently one of our best players last night, think he is only 16 or 17 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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