How long are you going to give Ranieri?

[dannythefox]

He a good manager but he's had it his own way since arriving this will test how good he is. What's worrying for me is I've not seen an improvement from hull away and some of our tactics have been shocking so far.

[MattCan]

Yeah, get rid of Ranieri, Mahrez and Vardy and you will compete for the title again .... LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ... Gosh, some people ..

[Guest Col city fan]

Why does Ranieri have to be 'unsackable'?

Football is a very unforgiving, in some ways mercenary game. 

He'll go down in LCFC folklore. But personally I see last season as last season and this is a new term.

And if we judge him THIS season we are doing well below par. We're not 'little Leicester' anymore. Anyone who thinks this is talking shite. We've splashed 30 mill quid on just one player. 

Personally, if we had made the right signings in the summer we could have kicked on as a successful club. In the Premiership I mean. I have no idea how we'll do in the latter Champs League.

But the worrying thing is he's tinkering too much. We are not playing a consistent side and he still doesn't seem to know his best 11. Completely contrary to last season. 

We are playing worse football recently than we even did under Pearson. I recall us saying on more than occasion that under Nige we were 'unlucky to lose' games. We can't say that at the moment. We've been pasted away from home, we've just lost at home to the Baggies, we are shaky at one end and not creative at the other.

How long do we give this? That's tough...without a doubt until after the next transfer window. We need to get better players in. Then I think I can re-judge.

[sly1]

Wtf

[AyewJoking]

didnt our owners ask him if he would stay on even if we went down last season?

 

dont know if winning the title will make them expect more or further enhance their loyalty to him.

 

we seem to be setting up to lose at the moment so he probably doesnt know what to change or just keep rolling out the same tactics hoping they work.

[Sublime_Coatsworth]

That there are some people who would even start talking about 'getting rid' of Ranieri - after only 12 games shows what plastics they are. Fvck off. Really.

[mad biker]

4 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

If you wouldn't, you're an idiot.

I have always suspected that I am an idiot, nice to have it confirmed though  Cheers Voll.

 

[Rialto 290352]

Certainly we ought not to be playing 4 4 2 in away games.  Little point as the two forwards see so little of the ball and most of that is when they help out our defence!  An obvious easy change would be to play 4  5 1.  At least for the first half of games and then re-assess the situation.  

 

For home games I'm inclined to think that 3 5 2 would improve things?  Using Hernandez.  

 

January needs to see at least three class players being signed and two of them mid fielders.

 

Overall, aside from Drinkwater and Mahrez, there is a worrying lack of creativity and skill in the side.  

[volpeazzurro]

Reality check. IF we made the stupid decision to get rid of Ranieri, can anyone thing of a better manager wanting to come?

 

For me, Champions League quarter finals and mid table would be a superb season. Even if we got relegated I'd still want Ranieri.

[Guest Col city fan]

9 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Reality check. IF we made the stupid decision to get rid of Ranieri, can anyone thing of a better manager wanting to come?

 

For me, Champions League quarter finals and mid table would be a superb season. Even if we got relegated I'd still want Ranieri.

If we made the quarters of the Champs League and got RELEGATED? You'd still want Ranieri? Why?

 

[Merging Cultures]

WTF?

Ranieri is just a manager, he isn't motivating the team right now and he isn't building for the future.

He did fantastically last season, building on the success of a guy who developed and dad involved in the club from top to bottom.

A very successful season in, we are now paying players way more than they are worth, we've lost crucial backroom staff, and we are performing terribly.

I am unashamedly a NP fan. I could see the long term picture. I could see what he was building. With CR I don't have a clue. We've bought expensively (good prospects but a lot of money!) and we've increased wages to the point that we can't sell players, or even threaten to, if they perform badly.

CR is alright. He's a nice guy. I wasn't someone to call an ostrich an ostrich and sort this spoilt, over paid, mollycoddled bunch of tw@ts out.

[volpeazzurro]

2 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

If we made the quarters of the Champs League and got RELEGATED? You'd still want Ranieri? Why?

 

Because I think a lot of what has happened thus far this season was entirely predictable for all the reasons that have been exhausted. I believe the Champions League is the priority over a relatively dull top ten finish,  it's possibly a once in a lifetime experience  (a bit like before when some fans would chose an FA cup win over retaining Premiership status). The reason I'd keep Ranieri is because if we went down (and I don't think we'll even come close), I can't think of anyone else out there that's available that would want to come and who would have been capable of doing a better job on two fronts at the same time.  I also then don't see anyone better out there more capable of bringing us straight back up. It's no surprise that Newcastle with Benitez and money and the best part of a Premiership team are where they are currently.  Just my opinion. 

[Wymsey]

Considering the shock of last season, I'd support him if he tries to balance the competitions we're in and play at the quick and fast tempo that we were known for before the season ended.

 

Beginning to think now, like others, some of the players are only half-bothered about the PL in recent times with a big glance at the CL situation.

Which seems wrong as it's not the right way of earning a wage if you want more focus over the other just because you're new to the competition after winning a 1st domestic trophy for the club and try to get to 'shock' the football world further via trying to grab the CL trophy.

[volpeazzurro]

9 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

WTF?

Ranieri is just a manager, he isn't motivating the team right now and he isn't building for the future.

He did fantastically last season, building on the success of a guy who developed and dad involved in the club from top to bottom.

A very successful season in, we are now paying players way more than they are worth, we've lost crucial backroom staff, and we are performing terribly.

I am unashamedly a NP fan. I could see the long term picture. I could see what he was building. With CR I don't have a clue. We've bought expensively (good prospects but a lot of money!) and we've increased wages to the point that we can't sell players, or even threaten to, if they perform badly.

CR is alright. He's a nice guy. I wasn't someone to call an ostrich an ostrich and sort this spoilt, over paid, mollycoddled bunch of tw@ts out.

NP did a great job for a period of time and certainly managed to get rid of a lot of expensive dead wood. But...he was a tactical midget, let's not forget that prior to the great escape it was he and his methods that got us there. He was a tactical midget.The jury is out on who masterminded the great escape. In the end he and his idiot boy of a son were authors of their own downfalls. Compared to Ranieris long and distinguished career NP is just a mediocre journeyman. Without his team he's toothless and his lack of success shows it.

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

NP did a great job for a period of time and certainly managed to get rid of a lot of expensive dead wood. But...he was a tactical midget, let's not forget that prior to the great escape it was he and his methods that got us there. He was a tactical midget.The jury is out on who masterminded the great escape. In the end he and his idiot boy of a son were authors of their own downfalls. Compared to Ranieris long and distinguished career NP is just a mediocre journeyman. Without his team he's toothless and his lack of success shows it.

Tactical Midget, love it.  The man was a walking turd interms of tactics and behaviour 

[volpeazzurro]

5 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

Considering the shock of last season, I'd support him if he tries to balance the competitions we're in and play at the quick and fast tempo that we were known for before the season ended.

 

Beginning to think now, like others, some of the players are only half-bothered about the PL in recent times with a big glance at the CL situation.

Which seems wrong as it's not the right way of earning a wage if you want more focus over the other just because you're new to the competition after winning a 1st domestic trophy for the club and try to get to 'shock' the football world further via trying to grab the CL trophy.

I do have to agree with you here and a majority of blame lies with the players and not just the manager. We know where we are weak and I'm sure so is the club. I also don't presuppose that they didn't try and negate those weaknesses.  But you can only buy who's available and who wants to come and us daft sods on here wouldn't have the remotest idea who they tried to get.

[Guest Col city fan]

29 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Because I think a lot of what has happened thus far this season was entirely predictable for all the reasons that have been exhausted. I believe the Champions League is the priority over a relatively dull top ten finish,  it's possibly a once in a lifetime experience  (a bit like before when some fans would chose an FA cup win over retaining Premiership status). The reason I'd keep Ranieri is because if we went down (and I don't think we'll even come close), I can't think of anyone else out there that's available that would want to come and who would have been capable of doing a better job on two fronts at the same time.  I also then don't see anyone better out there more capable of bringing us straight back up. It's no surprise that Newcastle with Benitez and money and the best part of a Premiership team are where they are currently.  Just my opinion. 

The Rafa situation at Newcastle was very different. He came in when they were awful, couldn't turn em around and chose to stay to fight it out in the Championship.

If Ranieri takes us down, it will be on the back of taking us to Premiership glory, keeping most of our players and spending a fortune in the summer. Two completely different situations.

I dont think we'll get relegated either, but if we did, to want to keep the manager that took us down, given the circumstances we were in, would be preposterous.

[lgfualol]

42 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

Ranieri is just a manager, he isn't motivating the team right now and he isn't building for the future.

I'm not sure about the building for the future bit. It's difficult because last season we went from 0-100 and couldn't build for the future, though Gray and Amartey played parts in getting us points. Now we are in a relegation battle (see next paragraph) and I guess Ranieri is still trusting the players from last season. Our development of youngsters has been bad for ages though.

 

Like it has been said a million times, the Summer was a mess and the good times meant we were dishing out mega contracts. I think that could be the thing affecting the team right now along with just bad form that has carried on from a pre-season where the club had money as their main interest and not preparation. I bet there is a lot of envy in the team, where there was none last season because everyone was about equal. 

 

Not sure what Ranieri can do unless something has happened that we don't know about. I think our 'band of brothers' need to sort it out themselves or sell anyone unhappy.

 

Keep Ranieri I say.

[coley1884]

9 hours ago, Barky said:

As long as he wants

Agree with this.

 

In all seriousness, in twenty years time when we look back at all of this, it will be with misbelief  if we sacked the most successful manager we've ever had after winning the league for the first time in our history, making the champions league knock out and who knows, maybe even more. La Manga, Pearson's sacking, administration - all those other times we've shot ourselves in the foot will pale in insignificance compared with that.  We'll quite rightly have a statue to Claudio at some stage and probably name a stand after him. It was my choice we'd be playing at Stadio Ranieri already

 

Let's not get carried away. Class in permanent after all. Claudio will pull things round. It may take a month, it may take a season but he'll sort it and we'll come out stronger as a result.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

10 hours ago, davieG said:

The problem is the team resources and fitness/stamina not the manager.

Any replacement will face the same team problems hopefully in January he can get the players he wants like Silva and Keene or suitable alternatives to boost the squad in terms of quality, quantity and mental lift. 

On the button, Davie.

[Buzzell]

Forever. Give him the key to the city. 

[Rob1742]

I think Ranieri is in serious danger. The owners are not sentimental. They will be seeing the money we have spent, what has risks of losing £70m Premier money per year will be. They will also be looking at signings we have made. 

 

The funny thing is, I always thought that the great creation was Nigel Pearson's. He put it all together, he created the group and Ranieri didn't have any building to do. 

 

I am not saying though that this is Ranieri's fault. I actually think, and he will know that to try and keep momentum after a massive season, with a fairly average bunch was going to be a huge task.

 

I think this is all going to spiral downwards. Mahrez and Drinkwater will get courted and unrest will follow. It may well take a new manager to try and stabilise us, rebuild and try and create a stable mid table Premier League club.

 

My prediction is that he will be gone by the end of the season if we are teatering on the brink. The owners will act to try and preserve our position. 

 

But look at it realistically, we have spent yet are not doing well. How is this going to turn around now? The strong group mentality has been broken with new team members and excisiting ones now having a massive lifestyle change.

 

Big Sam to come in and change everything around and create a new team that can stay up. 

[weller54]

5 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

I think Ranieri is in serious danger. The owners are not sentimental. They will be seeing the money we have spent, what has risks of losing £70m Premier money per year will be. They will also be looking at signings we have made. 

 

The funny thing is, I always thought that the great creation was Nigel Pearson's. He put it all together, he created the group and Ranieri didn't have any building to do. 

 

I am not saying though that this is Ranieri's fault. I actually think, and he will know that to try and keep momentum after a massive season, with a fairly average bunch was going to be a huge task.

 

I think this is all going to spiral downwards. Mahrez and Drinkwater will get courted and unrest will follow. It may well take a new manager to try and stabilise us, rebuild and try and create a stable mid table Premier League club.

 

My prediction is that he will be gone by the end of the season if we are teatering on the brink. The owners will act to try and preserve our position. 

 

But look at it realistically, we have spent yet are not doing well. How is this going to turn around now? The strong group mentality has been broken with new team members and excisiting ones now having a massive lifestyle change.

 

Big Sam to come in and change everything around and create a new team that can stay up. 

Nightmare on Elm Street! 

[Smudge]

Seems to me he's hit a perfect storm

[funkyrobot]

After last season Ranieri should be able to be relegated and still keep his job. That's how good last season was. That's how much he has done for Leicester. You can't sack him.