How long are you going to give Ranieri?

[sm1]

As much as I don't think CR is in any danger regarding his job, he has been far too passive in terms of subs and tactics. Most people can see 442 with our midfield is dead and buried, this has been proven numerous times already, yet CR seems completely oblivious to this. Last season he was proactive, he made game changing subs at half time, he dropped Mahrez, he changed our game mid season to make us more solid at the back. Where is that Ranieri? Our tactics are dire week after week, yet there seems no change in personnel or systems to try and change this. Yesterday we were lobbing balls in the box to Shinji and Vardy, then we wonder why we didn't create anything. If that is our tactic then play Ulloa. Fans complain that players seem to have lost that hunger from last season, what if Ranieri has also lost that hunger too?

[TrentFox]

He looks in reasonable health. I reckon he'll make 85 ??? 

[adejo92]

Definitely should not be sacked and he needs to be given the time to sort out the issues that have come about. He does, however, need to stop defending his players so much after woeful performances and instead make some changes and face reality.

[Izzy]

4 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Why does Ranieri have to be 'unsackable'?

Football is a very unforgiving, in some ways mercenary game. 

He'll go down in LCFC folklore. But personally I see last season as last season and this is a new term.

And if we judge him THIS season we are doing well below par. We're not 'little Leicester' anymore. Anyone who thinks this is talking shite. We've splashed 30 mill quid on just one player. 

Personally, if we had made the right signings in the summer we could have kicked on as a successful club. In the Premiership I mean. I have no idea how we'll do in the latter Champs League.

But the worrying thing is he's tinkering too much. We are not playing a consistent side and he still doesn't seem to know his best 11. Completely contrary to last season. 

We are playing worse football recently than we even did under Pearson. I recall us saying on more than occasion that under Nige we were 'unlucky to lose' games. We can't say that at the moment. We've been pasted away from home, we've just lost at home to the Baggies, we are shaky at one end and not creative at the other.

How long do we give this? That's tough...without a doubt until after the next transfer window. We need to get better players in. Then I think I can re-judge.

I'd suggest supporters of the so called 'big clubs' would disagree mate! 

In fact, many friends I've got who follow the likes of Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelski etc. still see us, and will always see us, as 'Little Leicester'. And after our start to this season, we're now 'Lucky Little Leicester' 

Just because we spent £30m on Slim doesn't make us something we're not. £30m is small change to the really big clubs and they just see this as spending our winnings from last season. In terms of doing 'well below par' this season, I've go no idea what 'par' is for us anymore. Par for us was always you-yoing between the top two divisions but obviously expectations are a lot higher now. 

 

[Voll Blau]

Imagine at any point in our history prior to this season if someone had told you we'd be top of our Champions League group but people would be asking this question. You'd have had them committed.

 

We're a spoilt bunch, no matter what level the team are playing at. It's sad.

[ZeGuy]

Sacking CR in January (can't believe it's already on the table for some) is a guaranteed one way ticket to relegation. The unstability that would ensuit would be the coup de grace for the team. Don't underestimate the bond that he built with his players. I think he is in damage control mode and looking for the next transfer window to strenghten the midfield as well as the back four. After that we'll see...

[Number 6]

20 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Sacking CR in January (can't believe it's already on the table for some) is a guaranteed one way ticket to relegation. The unstability that would ensuit would be the coup de grace for the team. Don't underestimate the bond that he built with his players. I think he is in damage control mode and looking for the next transfer window to strenghten the midfield as well as the back four. After that we'll see...

Problem is then next transfer window comes around at the same time as AFCON. I know Mahrez hasn't been in great form this season but he's our most capable player and we'll miss him. Well also lose Slim, Amartey and Schlupp.

 

I don't have any confidence in us managing some squad rotation given how we've handled the CL group stages and trying to integrate new players will take even longer due to regulars being away.

 

On the plus side it won't take new players long to learn how we play.

 

EDIT: In answer to the titular question, he's got the full season for me...whatever happens. My main gripe is lack of mixing it up at the moment. We know the current set up doesn't work but nothing else is even being tried.

[ZeGuy]

16 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Problem is then next transfer window comes around at the same time as AFCON. I know Mahrez hasn't been in great form this season but he's our most capable player and we'll miss him. Well also lose Slim, Amartey and Schlupp.

 

I don't have any confidence in us managing some squad rotation given how we've handled the CL group stages and trying to integrate new players will take even longer due to regulars being away.

 

On the plus side it won't take new players long to learn how we play.

Mahrez and Slimani won't be out long. As far as I know Algeria has a coach problem and is underperforming at the moment. Their AFCON group stage is tough and I don't see them making it to the next round. So let's say two weeks. Good opportunity to play Gray and Kaputska or see if Musa is really any good (not convinced a bit by him and still think he's a dud). Schlupp will be gone in january and is not a loss imo. Don't let his "performance" on saturday fool you. He has no end product and no brains. He wants to go anyway. Mendy should be fit by then so Amartey won't be missed that much. Even less if they manage to sign a decent CM.

[Donut]

Deserves the full season. I dont believe for a moment we will go down, this will be turned around.

 

Many of these players also know what it takes ina relegation battle lets not forget. Its about time they fronted up instead of blaming Ranieri for everything. Im not saying Ranieri is blameless as some of his decisions have been highly questionnable, but the players need to up their game too

[Wymsey]

Thought he looked quite nervous in the post-match interview (shoulder shrugs, ''er'' etc). He does appear hot under the collar, but perhaps that's a good thing as now is an important time for him and the team to get their heads screwed on again and knuckle down.

 

After the Brugges game, I can imagine him motivating the players in training to fully concentrate on what they're good at combined and create unity together for the Middlesbrough game.

 

 

[m4DD0gg]

As long as he needs, the man delivered the Premier League title to Leicester City.

 

However someone does need a quiet word in his ear as 442 is most certainly not working.

 

I really hope the recruitment staff have been working hard behind the scenes as relying on a shattered DD and the abomination of King/Amartay is not going to work.

[foxtillidrop]

Don Claudio is clearly protecting his group of players in the media. After winning the prem, Claudio deserves a job for life as far as I'm concerned.

Up to the players to stand up and put a few results together for the gaffer.

It would be good to see an extra body in central midfield though.

Hopefully we can win our next two home games and get Vardy scoring again.  

[ozleicester]

I would keep him as long as he is doing what he can to help Leicester win.

 

I think he will keep us up this year (13th)

He will retire the week before the last game and go on to be a version of Director of Football.

The Club will have an excellent replacement lined up.

2017/18 will see us win a cup and finish 10th.

 

[Guest Cujek]

Get rid.

[bpfox]

the only problem with the boss he seems not to have picked up on some very basic errors, that we seem to make every game. players are getting in each others way , seems like there not talking to each other. drinkwater last year was going forward this year his 1st movement is to play backwards thus he has given away two goals in the last two games. allbrighton has lost all his pace and again his 1st movement is to play back. mahraz has lost all form, stops and starts and just does not look interested, needs to be dropped. but watching the games are biggest failure is we don't eat up space, we only want to kick the ball up the field when we could be picking up yards and drawing teams out thus giving vardy more space. last is vardy his work rate is only about 1/2 compared to last season. what does every one think?

[Guest Danny Clender]

Hypothetically, let's say Ranieri is sacked today.

The first thing the new manager, or even Shakespeare as caretaker, would do would be to change the formation from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 or 4-3-2-1 whatever really, but 4-4-2 would be gone.

Everybody's saying it except Ranieri and that stubbornness is the root of all frustration for me right now.

 

The team is definitely decent enough to change their formation and start to get the best out of Mahrez and Vardy again. 

He stays for me, no doubt, but If his stubbornness continues and results don't turn, I think he will start to have a limited amount of games left, Champions League qualification or not. 

[Lcfcrory]

He could walk out on match day wearing stockings, suspenders and knee high leather boots and start sacrificing children on the pitch and I'd still say he deserves a couple more weeks. 

[GaelicFox]

If we get relegated , I'd give him 10 games in championship 

 

sacking this man would be like burning our children in the stands ! 

 

This thread is embarrassing , it's a affront to all who have stuck with this club from the misery to the unbelievable highs last May ! 

 

Honestly I dispare at the lack of fortitude in this country , we won two world wars sending boys to fight men , we wouldn't win a punch up a children's party now , why ? Because we are soft and growing softer , grown men whinging and moaning like little girls about a man who has given them an impossible dream come true ,

 

fcuking man up and get behind the team and players , anyone seeking change or contemplating change is vermin and all vermin should be hunted down and exterminated ! 

[suffolk fox]

1 hour ago, GaelicFox said:

If we get relegated , I'd give him 10 games in championship 

 

sacking this man would be like burning our children in the stands ! 

 

This thread is embarrassing , it's a affront to all who have stuck with this club from the misery to the unbelievable highs last May ! 

 

Honestly I dispare at the lack of fortitude in this country , we won two world wars sending boys to fight men , we wouldn't win a punch up a children's party now , why ? Because we are soft and growing softer , grown men whinging and moaning like little girls about a man who has given them an impossible dream come true ,

 

fcuking man up and get behind the team and players , anyone seeking change or contemplating change is vermin and all vermin should be hunted down and exterminated ! 

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[Dickov22]

He says the same things every week

[Chelve84]

Claudio was brilliant last year and everything he touched worked. This year he has to take some of the blame giving them all 4 yr deals on huge wages. Transfer window was a shocker and didn't buy the positions we needed and the quality. Tactically outclassed most weeks and won't change especially away against the big boys when we get over run in midfield every time . At home against WBA played right into the hands lumping aimless long balls into the box for there 6"4 centre backs to head away. He is just realising I think that he has limited options but is overloaded in certain areas and feels like he has to play them. We will get beat by Middlesbrough and Adama traora will destroy us

[lgfualol]

12 minutes ago, Chelve84 said:

Claudio was brilliant last year and everything he touched worked. This year he has to take some of the blame giving them all 4 yr deals on huge wages. Transfer window was a shocker and didn't buy the positions we needed and the quality. Tactically outclassed most weeks and won't change especially away against the big boys when we get over run in midfield every time . At home against WBA played right into the hands lumping aimless long balls into the box for there 6"4 centre backs to head away. He is just realising I think that he has limited options but is overloaded in certain areas and feels like he has to play them. We will get beat by Middlesbrough and Adama traora will destroy us

Has this actually got much to do with Ranieri? I imagine he'll say who he wants to keep and Rudkin/whoever will negotiate the wages/contract length. I do think salaries are a problem though, some of the players who have fallen off dramatically still have 4 years on their contracts.

[Chelve84]

9 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

Has this actually got much to do with Ranieri? I imagine he'll say who he wants to keep and Rudkin/whoever will negotiate the wages/contract length. I do think salaries are a problem though, some of the players who have fallen off dramatically still have 4 years on their contracts.

Who knows but I would imagine he would have said give it to them. As for Rudkin is he a good DOF I think not. Vardy 4 year deal??? To me he looks like he has lost half a yard already, can you imagine in 2 years time. He will offer nothing without his pace and be sitting on bench picking up his easy money. We brought slimani to replace Shinji as a partner for Vardy and now Claudio has said they ain't good together and Shinji is preferred. That to me is bad buying either by Claudio or Rudkin. I'm not saying Slimani is a bad player but if he can't fit in side then we have brought wrong type of player. Should have been a number 10

 

[Guest Col city fan]

All this criticism of the club giving the players long term, lucrative contracts...

I literally saw almost no-one moaning about these at the time they were given.

I just KNEW that they'd be used as an excuse if we started struggling. 

Hypocrisy of the highest order....

 

[Chelve84]

7 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

All this criticism of the club giving the players long term, lucrative contracts...

I literally saw almost no-one moaning about these at the time they were given.

I just KNEW that they'd be used as an excuse if we started struggling. 

Hypocrisy of the highest order....

 

I think a lot of people was concerned about the amount a week especially when people like Kasper was being reported at 100,000 a week. But more concerning is giving a 29 yr old Vardy who relies on pace a 4 year deal.