President Trump & the USA

[Facecloth]

11 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

Shows everything wrong with Morgan's attitude. He's more impressed by someone who's got where they are because their dad has put them there, rather than someone who come from nothing to get there. I think its bloody impressive Cortez was a bartender 18 months ago to being in the house of representatives, it says everything about him that Morgan thinks it's a bad thing.

[Jattdogg]

9 hours ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Trump does something good which if a politician you like did the same you would praise them for it, but you choose to take a cheap shot instead

 

If you watch that video it doesnt sound incoherent at all

That exchange was definitely incoherent.  You can kind of get where he's going with it but still this is the POTUS come on dawwwwg! Lol

 

Being real, i give him brownie  points for attempting to make peace. It's not easy with that bogus regime in NK but he is trying to do something. Whether is succeeds or its just for sure who knows. If he can get them to disarm nukes then i will be super impressed.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

9 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

That exchange was definitely incoherent.  You can kind of get where he's going with it but still this is the POTUS come on dawwwwg! Lol

 

Being real, i give him brownie  points for attempting to make peace. It's not easy with that bogus regime in NK but he is trying to do something. Whether is succeeds or its just for sure who knows. If he can get them to disarm nukes then i will be super impressed.

Maybe its time we stopped hatin the playa and start hatin the game

[Guest SO1]

58 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

That exchange was definitely incoherent.  You can kind of get where he's going with it but still this is the POTUS come on dawwwwg! Lol

 

Being real, i give him brownie  points for attempting to make peace. It's not easy with that bogus regime in NK but he is trying to do something. Whether is succeeds or its just for sure who knows. If he can get them to disarm nukes then i will be super impressed.

I think its time for the United States to disarm its nukes. North Korea would be absolutely crazy to disarm considering the genocides we have perpetrated on other human beings.

[Buce]

7 hours ago, SO1 said:

I think its time for the United States to disarm its nukes. North Korea would be absolutely crazy to disarm considering the genocides we have perpetrated on other human beings.

 

Instead, Trump has increased stocks and lowered the threshold for their use.

 

The US are the biggest threat to world peace, imo.

[David Guiza]

Canadian artist fired after the below cartoon was published. 

 

[Facecloth]

4 minutes ago, David Guiza said:

Canadian artist fired after the below cartoon was published. 

 

Tbf it's a bit unrealistic, Trump wouldn't ask first before playing through.

[MC Prussian]

 

My kind of future female US president.

 

Shame the political establishment, in particular on the Democrats' side, hate her for her honesty.

It speaks volumes when Fox News and the likes of Tucker Carlson indirectly endorse a former War veteran.

 

2020 comes too early for Tulsi, but I do hope she gets the job four years later.

Edited 1 July 2019 by MC Prussian

[MC Prussian]

On 30/06/2019 at 21:51, Facecloth said:

Shows everything wrong with Morgan's attitude. He's more impressed by someone who's got where they are because their dad has put them there, rather than someone who come from nothing to get there. I think its bloody impressive Cortez was a bartender 18 months ago to being in the house of representatives, it says everything about him that Morgan thinks it's a bad thing.

Do you know how AOC got to Congress and by what margin she was elected?

That her district she represents is fed up with her?

Do you know more about the group that has pushed her into Congress? She is but a straw man, or straw woman more like it.

 

AOC is an embarrassment to politics.

I do hope she loses her seat and it is given to somebody with at least an ounce of competency.

[Leicester_Loyal]

On 30/06/2019 at 20:36, urban.spaceman said:

 

Isn't this the same woman who was caught deceiving the public not long ago with false pictures at the Mexico border?

[Grebfromgrebland]

51 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Isn't this the same woman who was caught deceiving the public not long ago with false pictures at the Mexico border?

You really believe that?

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

7 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

You really believe that?

Even some of her own supporters believe that. They posted on twitter that the found it to be contrived and phony

[leicsmac]

8 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

You really believe that?

 

50 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Even some of her own supporters believe that. They posted on twitter that the found it to be contrived and phony

If it's true, it's a bit of a stupid thing to do seeing as you hardly need to fake pictures to show that conditions at the border aren't even close to ideal.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

21 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

If it's true, it's a bit of a stupid thing to do seeing as you hardly need to fake pictures to show that conditions at the border aren't even close to ideal.

No argument here. The conditions there sound pretty bad. And she is really stupid

[Lionator]

24 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

No argument here. The conditions there sound pretty bad. And she is really stupid

As opposed to the current president who is clearly a very stable genius, Jeezus. 

 

I like AOC, it's good to have a variety of views in politics, especially American politics at the current time. The Netflix documentary about her is inspiring. She's never going to become President because of her views however it's always good when somebody challenges the American status quo machine. 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

3 minutes ago, Lionator said:

As opposed to the current president who is clearly a very stable genius, Jeezus. 

 

I like AOC, it's good to have a variety of views in politics, especially American politics at the current time. The Netflix documentary about her is inspiring. She's never going to become President because of her views however it's always good when somebody challenges the American status quo machine. 

Aye, he's not super bright is he, has been an effective politician none the less

 

I didnt know about that doc. Maybe i'll give it a watch tonight, see if I can get on that AOC train - i do fancy her i know that

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48834824

 

The best and brightest manning the border, evidently.

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48842428

 

As Eisenhower thought: ‘Absolutely not. We, the United States, are seeking peace, we are the pre-eminent power on Earth. For us to try to imitate what the Soviets are doing in Red Square would make us look weak.’

 

Perhaps Trump might want to learn from a proper commander.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

AOC makes a statement, turns out to be a shameful lie, rinse and repeat

 

She is the worst

[UPinCarolina]

On 01/07/2019 at 16:29, MC Prussian said:

Do you know how AOC got to Congress and by what margin she was elected?

That her district she represents is fed up with her?

Do you know more about the group that has pushed her into Congress? She is but a straw man, or straw woman more like it.

 

AOC is an embarrassment to politics.

I do hope she loses her seat and it is given to somebody with at least an ounce of competency.

AOC is far more competent than 90% of the House, she just gets shit on by Pensioners and Trumpstans who can't accept that a female Millennial can be politically savvy and anti-establishment.

Edited 3 July 2019 by UPinCarolina

[MC Prussian]

13 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

AOC is far more competent than 90% of the House, she just gets shit on by Pensioners and Trumpstans who can't accept that a female Millennial can be politically savvy and anti-establishment.

AOC "politically savvy"?

 

I'm trying hard not to laugh.

 

Everything this woman and the team behind her have touched so far has resulted in a real-life parody and fantastic meme material. I wouldn't call her dumb, but she's not smart, either.

She isn't acting on her own behalf, it's all orchestrated. AOC is style over substance. She is but a vessel.

The Green New Deal, or lately the comments following the visit to the refugee camps at the Mexican border. Or these nuggets:

https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2018/11/26/the-seven-craziest-things-alexandria-ocasiocortez-has-said-so-far-n2536456

 

Her constituents are fed up with her, and again, I do hope she loses her seat.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/constituents-fed-up-with-ocasio-cortez-says-she-doesnt-spend-enough-time-on-them_2861632.html

 

If she wants to continue in politics, then she should be pushing for creating another, third party, where she'd feel more at home - at least when talking to the media and in the way she is portrayed. The American Socialist Party. She'd fit right in.

 

Edited 3 July 2019 by MC Prussian

[leicsmac]

Don't hate the messenger because of the message, boys :

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-48838699

 

And that is just the tip of the iceberg - not that icebergs might be around for too much longer.

 

Speaking of liars:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48859161

 

Alabama prosecutor in being sensible shocker:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48849040

 

And one more - Portland continues to be a talking point:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48849035

[UPinCarolina]

4 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

AOC "politically savvy"?

 

I'm trying hard not to laugh.

 

Everything this woman and the team behind her have touched so far has resulted in a real-life parody and fantastic meme material. I wouldn't call her dumb, but she's not smart, either.

She isn't acting on her own behalf, it's all orchestrated. AOC is style over substance. She is but a vessel.

The Green New Deal, or lately the comments following the visit to the refugee camps at the Mexican border. Or these nuggets:

https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2018/11/26/the-seven-craziest-things-alexandria-ocasiocortez-has-said-so-far-n2536456

 

Her constituents are fed up with her, and again, I do hope she loses her seat.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/constituents-fed-up-with-ocasio-cortez-says-she-doesnt-spend-enough-time-on-them_2861632.html

 

If she wants to continue in politics, then she should be pushing for creating another, third party, where she'd feel more at home - at least when talking to the media and in the way she is portrayed. The American Socialist Party. She'd fit right in.

 

1) You and I clearly have different definitions of politically savvy. She’s made waves, impacted the establishment, and gotten conservatives like yourself frothing at the mouth - while gaining a devoted following and challenging the status quo within her own party. Politically savvy. 

 

President Trump got elected by being politically savvy in that way - and you’ve no problem defending him.

 

2) You make the vessel claim but offer no evidence. Vessel for whom, exactly? Do you have a name for them? 

 

3) Your link to TownHall was hardly embarrassing for her. Contextually, most of what she said is perfectly fine. What’s embarrassing is that you think the snark and mockery pervasive in that report somehow proves your point, or that those criticisms are better than snide sarcasm. Rather, it reinforces my initial assertion that literally anything she does is met with derision because of who she is. 

 

4) Oh, The Epoch Times. I’ll post something from the Morning Star about President Trump as evidence next time I make a claim that’s wildly out of step with political realities.

 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

Was meant to be a reply @UPinCarolina 

 

Mate, conservatives are not "frothing at the mouth". They love her because she is a total joke for the dems and rumour has it (just an unsubstantiated rumour, i know, but doesnt sound unbelievable to me) that many on her side of the political fence are sick to the back teeth of her and cant wait to get rid

 

Trump does talk some shit but there is usually some grain of truth somewhere in what he says. AOC flagrantly lies. Anyone espousing good leftist politics that have a chance of doing any good in the real world should recognise her as not being helpful to the cause at all

 

You can kind of say liberals love Trump in the same way as the right loves AOC. I do think she wins when it comes to dishonest stupid bullshit

Edited 4 July 2019 by AlloverthefloorYesNdidi

[MC Prussian]

6 hours ago, UPinCarolina said:

1) You and I clearly have different definitions of politically savvy. She’s made waves, impacted the establishment, and gotten conservatives like yourself frothing at the mouth - while gaining a devoted following and challenging the status quo within her own party. Politically savvy. 

 

President Trump got elected by being politically savvy in that way - and you’ve no problem defending him.

 

2) You make the vessel claim but offer no evidence. Vessel for whom, exactly? Do you have a name for them? 

 

3) Your link to TownHall was hardly embarrassing for her. Contextually, most of what she said is perfectly fine. What’s embarrassing is that you think the snark and mockery pervasive in that report somehow proves your point, or that those criticisms are better than snide sarcasm. Rather, it reinforces my initial assertion that literally anything she does is met with derision because of who she is. 

 

4) Oh, The Epoch Times. I’ll post something from the Morning Star about President Trump as evidence next time I make a claim that’s wildly out of step with political realities.

 

First of all, I'm not a Conservative. But it's telling that you come to that conclusion. It shows how limited your own political horizon is.

Or do you label everything to your right "Conservative"?

You can't simply apply US standards 1-to-1 to European politics.

 

From a European point of view, the Democrats aren't a truly liberal or even left-wing party. They are to the left of the Republicans, but still on the right when using European metrics. There is no true leftist party in the US. There were attempts with the Green Party that have failed miserably. Some are trying right now (with the controversial Social Democrats within the Democratic party), but the establishment is too strong still and it will remain a fringe movement.

The Democrats may be more "liberal" or more "diverse" than the Republicans, but that's about it.

 

"Making waves" isn't "politically savvy" in my eyes, because it's but a drop in the ocean. It depends on how big those waves really are in the end and what water they are made on - the US media tend to overblow AOC's impact and use her as a poster girl, creating a certain image. What she does - or rather, what her committee does for her - is all about immediate attention and little long-term solutions.

Her proposals are ludicrous and some of the things she's said in the past are simply stupid and ignorant. Opening the border, abandoning ICE, preventing Amazon from opening a new headquarter in NY - when NY is massively in debt, ... She's clueless. What she does or is made to do is mostly show, no substance.

 

As for the team behind AOC, here's the video I posted a while back:

 

In the end and despite losing the popular vote, Trump got elected because too many people were fed up with the Clintons and the Democrats.

 

You still seem to be butt-hurt over Trump winning. Hey, I don't like the guy, either. But I don't have to like him in order to see what he's achieved so far in terms of economic progress and having been able to avoid starting a new, useless war abroad. I like how one man alone can rile up an entire party by posting on Twitter. He's an agent provocateur in many ways, and he's loving it.

 

Talk is cheap, actions speak louder. The current Iran situation is less than ideal, but so far, he's handled himself really well. Record low unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics, more home-grown jobs, overall crime rates dwindling still, (almost) fully self-sufficient in energy independence.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4273264-happy-fourth-u-s-energy-independence-way

What's not to like about living in the US right now?

Why do you think so many migrants from Middle and South America make the trek up North right now? Even more and more Africans are now traveling to the US for immigration.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/04/african-migrants-border-trump-immigration-nuevo-laredo-congo/1319996001/

 

Obviously, health insurance is still a hot topic. But some of the Democrats I heard during the debate want to charge you even more in that department.

And the drug (opioid) crisis, plus homelessness should be tackled immediately. San Francisco, LA have turned into tent cities.

 

If the Trump Administration could now also focus on improving infrastructure (roads, train tracks, bridges, aso), public transportation (buses, trains) and education, we could be onto a winner.

 

As far as you mocking the links I've provided, they were but some of the first ones I found, so absolutely random and by no means indicative of where I stand politically.

 

This one a little bit credible for you?

https://news.yahoo.com/fed-constituent-announces-shes-running-235651134.html

Listen to the candidate trying to replace AOC.

 

 

Edited 4 July 2019 by MC Prussian